The Jedi Academy. THE Place for Jedi training.
Forums
Content
The Academy
Learn
Communicate
Personal


Forums | General Discussion
Windows Vista
Sep 27 2005 02:40am

tarpman
 - The Tarped Avenger
tarpman
And the arrival of a new generation of Microsoft becomes more and more imminent every day. There's a new press campaign up on their site, but since not everyone has time to sit and read through page after page of marketing gimmicks, I thought I'd summarize the main points for you.

Confident
- Parental Controls: Excellent. Now my kid can't look up pr0n without me knowing... wait, why can't I get to my humour sites?

- Fast On and Off: More startup stuff relegated to parallel loading processes once the OS is loaded. Good news for fancy people like Tido with RAID; bad news for the rest of us, whose drives can only load one thing at a time.

- Diagnostics: We've heard this one before. Does "MBSA" sound familiar?

- User Account Permission: users are installed as limited by default; sudo has been ported to win32, having been available on Unix-based systems for 10 or so years.

- new default GUI theme.

Clear
- Indexing and VFS combine to form Super Saiy.. er, I mean, "Virtual Folders" which are essentially links to searches you've performed in the past.

- Desktop Search: We hate competition!

- Visualization: Also known as thumbnails. See also under Nautilus.

- XPS: Also known as DRM.

- Photos: You don't get to choose where to save pr0n anymore, so it's easier for your wife to find.

- RSS feeds: IE finally catches up to Mozilla.

Connected
- Device synchronization: Anyone else remember the Windows '98 USB demonstration?

- Mobility: Support for wireless, touchpads, and styluses (styli?) combine to make drivers.cab the single biggest file on your hard drive.

- Digital Media: See under XPS.

- High Definition TV: Yeah, cool for the people who can afford it.

And that's about it as far as new features go. Hope that helped, and see you in two years for the next round.

~ tarpman
_______________
Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time.

This post was edited by tarpman on Sep 28 2005 03:26am.

  Login and add your comment!  
Comments
Sep 30 2005 08:49pm

El Vee For
 - Student
 El Vee For

Microsoft sucks in the same way that the gasoline engine sucks. No matter how much it sucks everyone, the majority, keeps usin it cuz were waitin for something better AND CHEAPER. Linux is free, unless you count the research time required to properly install and configure which most of the world won't bother with.

just like your car, turn the key and go, Microsoft is, turn it on and work. pretty little GUI's fun pointing and clicking but no real work involved.

Someone made comment about how "there will be a Pro edition, that is the same but twice as expensive" have you used XP Home, and XP Pro? If you have you would immediately see the difference. Home is barebones, make the PC work with a little connectivity tooling, Pro is far superior for the avid puter/windows user.

Vista isn't going to blow the doors off of XP, so far it feels like the 98/milenium/XP disaster. Like Vista is just a stopping point on the way to something better. I admit I have a beta copy of Vista and for navigation purposes it is superior, for the lay-person, but the Pro edition will have to be pretty sweet to convince my company to make a switch to it.

Vista = 5 out of 10 <---hoping for a vast improvement on the next beta round
_______________
“Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you’re still retarded.”

Sep 30 2005 03:05pm

Jedifire_Mintaka
 - Student

Quote:
They bought DOS from IBM, and it was a 'steal' they got it for very cheap. They changed somethings added somethings and called it MS-DOS. Read the link in my sig for more info.


I was close! The history of Microsoft is starting to fade after having all those PC tech classes.:P
_______________
Raydoe's Paddy
I miss you Ray!
Owner of DarthMike's 500th comment, Stig's 250th comment, Grycen's 175th, O'liin's 200th, Pink Floyd's 800th, Rufusan's 25th and Raydoe's 473rd comment!


Sep 30 2005 10:59am

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

Quote:
Microsoft has been compared to the Borg Collective more than once. Indeed, you don't have to be a hard-core Star Trek fan to notice the similarity between Microsoft and the Borg. Microsoft's marketing methods have always shown a certain hunger for power, but lately an undisguised megalomania has set in.
"WE ARE MICROSOFT. LOWER YOUR FIREWALLS AND SURRENDER. WE WILL ADD YOUR TECHNOLOGICAL DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE."


Everybody hates a winner.

If I were Bill Gates, I wouldn't hesitate a single second before assimilating y'all

This comment was edited by Jacen Aratan on Sep 30 2005 05:54pm.

Sep 29 2005 03:11pm

Orion
 - Retired
 Orion

They bought DOS from IBM, and it was a 'steal' they got it for very cheap. They changed somethings added somethings and called it MS-DOS. Read the link in my sig for more info.
_______________
When a Man lies he murder's some part of the world. These are the pale deaths which men misscall there lives. All this I cannot bear to witness any longer. Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home? -Cliff Burton Owner of Smily's 1900th comment | <Lady_Catherine> i love your sexy white socks! | (Lady_Catherine) i adore u! | (Lady_Catherine) onion (Lady_Catherine) i lub u

Sep 29 2005 03:06pm

Jedifire_Mintaka
 - Student

Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
but Saz, MS DOS is Bill Gate's creation, how is that better than any of the others!:P:D
Wrong!

MS DOS was purchased by Gates, not created
Everything was purchased by Gates, not created.


Actually, if I remember correctly, Bill Gate wrote his own version of DOS (wasn't the first, though) and bought the rights to it and called it MS-DOS. Anyway, who cares, its Microsoft!:P

I have been thinking about Linux, but right now XP is treating me okay, so we'll see what comes along!:)
_______________
Raydoe's Paddy
I miss you Ray!
Owner of DarthMike's 500th comment, Stig's 250th comment, Grycen's 175th, O'liin's 200th, Pink Floyd's 800th, Rufusan's 25th and Raydoe's 473rd comment!


This comment was edited by Jedifire_Mintaka on Sep 29 2005 03:06pm.

Sep 29 2005 02:15pm

SaZ
 - Student
 SaZ

lol in my language there is a word 'višta' which goes as chicken in english.
whoaaa :P
_______________
playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana

Sep 29 2005 01:18pm

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

Yeah, because hating a large scale corporation is a lot less communist than cheering on the winners. :P

Sep 29 2005 02:42am

DarthMike
 - Student
 DarthMike

Quote:
Quote:
but Saz, MS DOS is Bill Gate's creation, how is that better than any of the others!:P:D
Wrong!

MS DOS was purchased by Gates, not created
Everything was purchased by Gates, not created.
_______________
"You can't get Windows on a Mac because the drivers are not compatible." --- Some dude from the Geek Squad
"So if you have quad-core, you have four times the RAM, right?" --- Some guy at Best Buy


Sep 28 2005 11:00pm

Ataris
 - Milwaukees Finest
 Ataris

The windows Microsoft was planning on before they went with Vista worked on a seach-to-use -principle.. All your files are stored in one place, and you would need to search for every item. You'd have no control over storing files in some specific location since there is only one.. I can see why they didn't do that lol :D

I'm fine with my XP atm, and I don't see any reason for me to go get Vista or whatever it's gonna be called..


-Ataris <3
_______________
[ Honorable mentions: aph3x | Milamber | Bail Hope Belouve | Jaiko D'Kana | Rosered | JediEthic | Mike/JJ/TheKing | Kensei | Dane | Gradius | Thomas Skywalker | Pink Floyd | Setementor | Steinin | Odan-Wei ] [ Owner of: MetaDust's 500th comment! | Eica's 700th comment! | Pink Floyd's 666th, 999th, 1200th and 1337th comment! | DarkRyu's 400th comment! | Redeye's 1st comment! | Cow's 1111st comment! | Rufusan's 75th comment! | Wicek's 3300th and 3400th comment! | Dash Starlight's 2000th comment! | Piccolo's 3400th comment! | Takaru's 300th comment! | Senor Hat's 900th comment! | Rytandus' 4160th comment! | The first ever awarded, the original, the one and only, Catphin Award!!1 ] "Music expresses that which can not be put in to words but can not remain silent."

Sep 28 2005 11:00pm

Esta
 - Student
 Esta

Quote:
Jacens a communist.


You spelt 'capitolist' wrong. XD
If they do bring out a 'pro' version, I'm gonna take a wild stab at saying it'll cost twice as much for no apparent reason.
_______________
-Kauyon Draconis
[Official master of Ataris]


This comment was edited by Esta on Sep 28 2005 11:01pm.

Sep 28 2005 10:42pm

Mreoton
 - Student

Meh they could make it suck more i guess...I dont really mind, i realise its pretty much Windows for Retards but they might bring out a kinda pro edition (doubt it) thats actually designed for experienced users?

Jacens a communist.

Sep 28 2005 10:22pm

Orion
 - Retired
 Orion

Quote:
Winsucks EX-Pee runs smoothly enough for me. I can't imagine how (by their descriptions) Vista will be at all organised. Sure it sounds friendly to people that haven't used computers before, things like having all your photos in one place, but what about people who are used to the current ways of computers?


Change sucks, but so does life deal with it? Thats how I see it :p
_______________
When a Man lies he murder's some part of the world. These are the pale deaths which men misscall there lives. All this I cannot bear to witness any longer. Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home? -Cliff Burton Owner of Smily's 1900th comment | <Lady_Catherine> i love your sexy white socks! | (Lady_Catherine) i adore u! | (Lady_Catherine) onion (Lady_Catherine) i lub u

Sep 28 2005 10:10pm

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

GO MICROSOFT!!

Sep 28 2005 09:51pm

Esta
 - Student
 Esta

Winsucks EX-Pee runs smoothly enough for me. I can't imagine how (by their descriptions) Vista will be at all organised. Sure it sounds friendly to people that haven't used computers before, things like having all your photos in one place, but what about people who are used to the current ways of computers?
_______________
-Kauyon Draconis
[Official master of Ataris]


Sep 28 2005 08:59pm

SaZ
 - Student
 SaZ

Quote:
Is anyone using XP even thinking about upgrading?


no.
_______________
playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana

Sep 28 2005 08:30pm

El Vee For
 - Student
 El Vee For

Quote:
but Saz, MS DOS is Bill Gate's creation, how is that better than any of the others!:P:D
Wrong!

MS DOS was purchased by Gates, not created
_______________
“Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you’re still retarded.”

Sep 28 2005 07:54pm

Orion
 - Retired
 Orion

Gonna have to upgrade to something eventually, Microsoft will stop supporting updates for XP, drivers won't be made for new hardware for XP, applications and games won't support XP. But thats years away...I'll have to for work.
_______________
When a Man lies he murder's some part of the world. These are the pale deaths which men misscall there lives. All this I cannot bear to witness any longer. Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home? -Cliff Burton Owner of Smily's 1900th comment | <Lady_Catherine> i love your sexy white socks! | (Lady_Catherine) i adore u! | (Lady_Catherine) onion (Lady_Catherine) i lub u

Sep 28 2005 07:27pm

(Jedi)Obi-JK
 - Student
 (Jedi)Obi-JK

Is anyone using XP even thinking about upgrading?
_______________
Silent Bob (Kevin Smith): You know, there's a million fine looking women in the world, dude. But they don't all bring you lasagna at work. Most of 'em just cheat on you.

-Steve (Obi)


Sep 28 2005 06:23pm

tarpman
 - The Tarped Avenger
 tarpman

Jedifire: If you're serious, consider giving Ubuntu Linux a try. Excellent beginner distribution.
_______________
Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time.

Sep 28 2005 06:10pm

Jedifire_Mintaka
 - Student

but Saz, MS DOS is Bill Gate's creation, how is that better than any of the others!:P:D

PS. Seriously considering Linux or something else...
_______________
Raydoe's Paddy
I miss you Ray!
Owner of DarthMike's 500th comment, Stig's 250th comment, Grycen's 175th, O'liin's 200th, Pink Floyd's 800th, Rufusan's 25th and Raydoe's 473rd comment!


Sep 27 2005 09:18pm

SaZ
 - Student
 SaZ

ms dos> all
_______________
playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana

Sep 27 2005 08:46pm

solitude
 - Jedi Council
 solitude

the only useful thing may be the virtual folders
_______________
Joined 16 October 2004 | Retired 10 April 2005 | Returned 05 June 2008 | Made Staff 27 June 2008 | Made Council 18 January 2009
Padawan To Odan-Wei Belouve | Adopted into the Belouve family | Twin to xAnAtOs | Owner of the 4th Quesi sexy badge :D Brother To Roan Belouve, Nomad, Majno, Silkmonkey, Kensei and Jarhok Belouve
Owner Of Virtue's 1000th profile comment, Mr. Doobie's 1000th profile comment, Gradius' 2500th comment, xAnAtOs' 2500th comment, Rosered's 1500th comment, Laziana's 900th comment, Scythus' 500th comment and Echuu's 100th comment


Sep 27 2005 07:27pm

JamesF1
 - Student
 JamesF1

That's Windows Vista down to a T.
_______________
Website

Sep 27 2005 07:04pm

Masta
 - Jedi Council
 Masta

Quote:
- Photos: You don't get to choose where to save pr0n anymore, so it's easier for your wife to find.

rofl
_______________
Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here!
Married to Kain.


Sep 27 2005 02:48am

DarthMike
 - Student
 DarthMike

thx for teh info

so, its basically an OS dedicated to making sure everyone knows what your looking at on the internet?
_______________
"You can't get Windows on a Mac because the drivers are not compatible." --- Some dude from the Geek Squad
"So if you have quad-core, you have four times the RAM, right?" --- Some guy at Best Buy


This comment was edited by DarthMike on Sep 27 2005 04:46am.

  Login and add your comment!