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Xavier - Student  |
tell me y you think they suck so i can explain to you y they dont btw MACS RULE! _______________ ~Xavier |
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Tell me why you dont like them( there might be other things but these are the ones i heard ) Tell the TRUTH!
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student 
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Xavier we CAN'T say M$ hasn't won the desktop war. I hate M$, but if we said M$ hadn't won that war we'd be lying so bad, a lightning would strike us  _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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Xavier - Student 
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what do you mean when you say "won the deskop war"? have you guys even read the isuess on G5 vs> alien? I read that in a mac catolag and both had strength and both had weaknesses. _______________ ~Xavier |
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student
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okay /me hypnotises everyone and makes them see "Pirates of Sillicon Valley" True Bill Gates & Steve Jobs story _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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(Jedi)Obi-JK - Student 
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Yeah there is no doubt Mircosoft won the 1st desktop war. But remember "nothing" lasts forever, I can't wait to see who the next big player is so, we can all start hating them. _______________ Silent Bob (Kevin Smith): You know, there's a million fine looking women in the world, dude. But they don't all bring you lasagna at work. Most of 'em just cheat on you. -Steve (Obi) |
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Nero - Student 
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Well...I don't think mac's suck. I do think that they've "lost" the battle with Microsoft though... Most of the people use windows, and if you're getting mac files to windows it usually screws up. (ofcourse this can be fixed but not everyone can). If there would be more macs than microsoft pc's it would be far better. But there are just more microsoft pc's.... I think apple lost the "battle" because of money btw...they're just more expensive in general _______________ -Nero Quote: Curious, Smartass, what else? This comment was edited by Nero on Mar 13 2004 07:08pm. |
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koushka - Student 
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About the one button mouse everybody has faults apple has a one button mouse. I don't use that mouse at all I have a two button and an eight button that I use. I keep them connected at the same time and can change between them on the fly. Before I bought the eight button I was using the one button and although it lacks another button it "felt" good. However, I no longer use it, hehe. Just food for thought. _______________ Faithful Padawan of {SKX}Dark Blade My profile pic is luke skywalker
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student
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Fate if you watch the ending of the movie "Pirates of Sillicon Valley" you'll feel sympathy for Apple  But anyway that's not my point:1) can't comment cuz i dunno about iMacs 2) Yeah he did that and kept the rights to "his" OS that he sold along with IBM computers. It's lame ok but that's how life is, and his actions are just as common as anything else (note: i absolutely 100% hate Bill Gates) 3) Well some guys from California working for Xerox made the GUI, Xerox didn't like the idea ("So you say Xerox is going to consider to use something called... a mouse?" so they let Steve Jobs and his pals go and look at the others work. So they stole the idea and made it into a OS with a nice GUI. Then Bill Gates who was WORKING for Steve Jobs stole the idea and made it into Windows etc. etc. Lookie at my sig, Picasso said it and Steve Jobs and Bill Gates repeated it:Quote: Good artists copy. Great artists steal... oh hey wtf console PWNZORS Shell > j00 Linux forever!!! 4) I don't know many ppl say Macs are very good for multimedia things, so I guess they're right. 5) hey everyone lies a bit when they're trying to make their products famous 6) Like I said go watch the movie "Pirates Of Sillicon Valley" Oh and about your earlier post: There is ABSOLUTELY no OS that is buggier than windows (okay no OS among the most popular ones) And who told you Linux ain't good for gaming? Haven't you heard about Wine and WineX? _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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Fate - Student 
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A couple additional thoughts: 1) I don't care what my case looks like. iMacs are ugly. I'm fine with either white, black, or custom modding my own system. That's why I don't own an alienwarez computer. 2) It is a common misconception as to where M$ come from. Bill Gates bought DOS from Seattle Computer Products. He modified it a little bit and then sold it as MS-Dos. This is a common business practice (buying the rights to a software, modding it a little and reselling it, see Adobe Audition and CoolEdit Pro). 3) Xerox created the first GUI OS. Not Mac. Yes Gates kinda stole the idea from them, but so did Mac. Besides, where else was OS technology going to go? We couldn't do console forever. (Shut up Linux users )4) Macs are NOT better for video or graphical editing. Photoshop is on Windows and Mac. Adobe Premiere (sp?) is better then Final Cut, though they are probebly both as easy to use. 5) For those of you didn't follow the link I provided in the last post: AMD was the first 64-bit processor creator. No, Macs do not currently produce the fastest computers. They are fast, sure, almost as fast, sure, but not faster. 6) Macs are a pricing disadvantage because of their business practices. There are thousands of PC equipment makers. There are very few that Apple licences to. _______________ I must not fear . Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear . I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. Gom gom gom gom gom! This comment was edited by Fate on Mar 12 2004 07:16pm. |
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Fate - Student 
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Of course, I haven't used the G4 or G% yet, but I own a Apple IIC, used PowerMacs at my school for 8 years, used iMacs ever since they came out, etc. Nonetheless, there are various reasons I don't like them. Here's one: http://spl.haxial.net/apple-powermac-G5/ After you read that, you might see why I don't like their business practices. Another additional reason is because, though they are nice enough to donate or sell really cheaply to schools, they give schools computers with almost no RAM, which causes all sorts of problems. Then when it comes to errors, yes Windows has many many bugs, but don't try to tell me Macs don't. Just TODAY I had been working in Flash for an hour when suddenly an error like "Flash has encountered an error and has unexpectedly quit." No reason for the error given, no option aside from ok. The program closed before I even got the error message so I couldn't save. And that's not all, the first day of Computer Animation class, I turn on the Mac and it gives me that stupid error message with the icon of the Bomb and the reset button. But, as many would already know, by the time you get that message, it's probebly already frozen and that restart button doesn't work. Then there is the problem of single button mice. They are just about useless. I'm sure you'd say, "Just hold Ctrl and click". That's dumb, why use both hands when I can just use an otherwise useless finger of my right hand? Then there is files. Firstly, when you drag files off a CD, it doesn't copy them, it just moves the reference point! You eject the disk, and they disappear! Why the heck would I want that?! I could just make a shortcut if I wanted to access them from the desktop! That and folders, that you can make invisible on the desktop! Pointless, security risk. And for those who respond to this, don't just say "Well, M$ sucks and has more bugs!" because that wasn't my point. The suckiness of Mac doesn't make PC good. It is possible for both to suck. I'd go use Linux, but it doesn't have enough software/drivers support. Windows, as bad as it may be, doesn't suck as much as Mac and is easier to use then Linux. Sure Linux is great for Web servers, but Windows is the best you're gonna get as far as gaming goes. (I know someone will say consoles are better, but a mouse and keyboard offers more control then a controller, and computers have more storagespace and processing power than any console out there.) Adn that's all I got to say about that right now. _______________ I must not fear . Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear . I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. Gom gom gom gom gom! This comment was edited by Fate on Mar 12 2004 07:02pm. |
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Battlin' Billy - Student 
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If I could afford one, I'd definitely add a Mac to my "collection". If I ever build my own recording studio, I plan on using Macs. _______________ Midbie Council Member #2 - Profile ID 2073 | Member of B@rtM@ulS@ar | Owner of Monty's 2000th comment & D@RtHM@UL's 8100th comment | Former Padawan of SilkMonkey & Arcuss JA Goaltender & NHL Fan | Fellow Rush fan to Axion|Plo Koon is my oldest JA friend Post your RL pics HERE! | Post you JK2/JK3 screenies HERE! |
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Stimpski - Student 
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I don't think Macs suck. My best friend works with Macs for his schoolwork and jobs. They just don't have as many portable programs out there. _______________ Stimpski (formerly known as DeathScythe many, many moons ago.) JA Forum ID - 3988 <insert generic &/OR witty tagline here> |
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Xavier - Student
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Quote: Amen koushka. Why do PC users always pick on Macs anyway? There are allot of other computer companies to make fun of. About Linux, I've never tried one. So, I don't really have any room to argue about that. i totally agree _______________ ~Xavier |
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Xavier - Student 
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you said it koushka _______________ ~Xavier |
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Ashyr - Student 
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Yeah........the whole MS company is a big copy-cat. Like a few months after the iMac came out, MS(or it might have been GateWay) came out with a colored computer that came in the same colors. _______________ Top ten reasons to get a better computer...|My fan |
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student
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Okay Sared asked me to post what I posted on his profile here on the thread, so there you go (gather patience and go through the most common and sensible rumor): Quote: I got no prob explaing my opinion  Only thing necessary is your will to read the whole thing, lol Of course the following story may not be 100% true (there are thousands of rumors about M$, but this one is the most common one): Bill Gates was the son of a pretty known lawyet. He went to study CS (Computer Science, not Counter-Strike ), and decided to write his own OS. There was a guy writing DOS, so Bill bought this guys's program and made him finish it, although Bill himself wrote a part of it. He introduced DOS like it was his. (please read statement at the end, marked as "*1." In the part he wrote there was some simpled FreeBSD code. Then he found M$. M$ liked Mac's GUI so decided to steal it (as I said, M$ has got a Ph.D. in fraud). So they made an OS with GUI aka Windows Many ppl bought windows just because they had bought DOS. Windows became popular so M$ became popular and Bill made money, loads of money.M$ has stolen waaay too many ideas, that it's tough to tell them here One thing they do, is about games. You know "M$ AOM" and "M$ AOE" and blah blah (Age of Mythology, Age of Empires) as well as other games. What happens is that other ppl write those programs, and M$ buys them and introduces them as if they were its.Also M$ has support from G. Bush Jr. cuz, Gates helped him out with money. So whenever M$ goes to court (or most times anyway) somehow, some way it gets away with murder *1. I can't say Gates isn't smart though When he got DOS he sold v1 to IBM so he became popular. More and more ppl wanted DOS. Then he made v2, and sold it for a LARGE amount of money. IBM agreed cuz DOS was selling like hot cakes then That way Gates made money--- As I said that's nothing better than the most common rumor (at least that's what Greek computer gurus say, so I had to just believe them )If you reached this point, you sure got LOADS of patience  Congrats BTW: DJ when I copy text, the emotes don't get copied and I have to write them again  Can that be fixed? Thanks _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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Sared - Retired 
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It's all cool DJ, there are plenty of smart Mac users out there, it's just that the majority of them are....well...you know... _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
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Ashyr - Student 
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Amen koushka. Why do PC users always pick on Macs anyway? There are allot of other computer companies to make fun of. About Linux, I've never tried one. So, I don't really have any room to argue about that. _______________ Top ten reasons to get a better computer...|My fan |
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koushka - Student
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Oh for the love of pete, I had a whole page written and I erased it because this is ridiculious. I love apples and no matter what people say on here I am sticking with them. I have used both sides and feel apple is a better choice for me. I can only ask that you keep your mind open to alternatives and don't hesitate to try apple or any other new os/comps that come out. I am always looking for something better. I can only hope other people do the same. red deer _______________ Faithful Padawan of {SKX}Dark Blade My profile pic is luke skywalker
This comment was edited by koushka on Feb 13 2004 09:07pm. |
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student
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No Mac OS is not made for newbies _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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DJ Sith - Jedi Council 
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Sared I couldn't disagree more. I got my iBook BECAUSE it runs the MacOS. I am hardly computer illiterate. I'm a UNIX user who wants to run photoshop every now and then. On this box I can do my graphics, write code, do all my neat unix'y things and play the occasional game. IBM has been making Mac processors for quite a while now. It's no secret. Before them it was Motorola. Comparing a G5's clock speed to a P4's clock speed is very much apples to oranges. _______________ My car is made of Nerf. |
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Dicemaster - Student 
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I didn't read this whole post, i was to lazy, but I saw X say that you can get old versions of mac OS on it, to run older programs I would like to point out, that on windows, you don't need an old version of windows to run old programs _______________ Dicemaster |
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Sared - Retired
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Oh and Koushka, try the new Chrysler Crossfire, or maybe a Ford F-250 4X4 Ranch Edition. Or go even sportier and get a Mitsubishi Eclipse 2000 (like my old one /cry) or maybe a Toyota Supra. Mazda RX7 OR RX8. Take your pick. I can gaurntee that any one of those can and will match up with a BMW. _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. This comment was edited by Sared on Feb 13 2004 05:36pm. |
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Sared - Retired 
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First of all, the new G5 only a, what, 1 Ghz FSB? ASUS and Pelican both make PC Motherboards that that have 1.2 and 1.4 Ghz FSB. Also, Apple buys its 'new' 64-bit processors from IBM. In fact, I will go as far as pick on IBM since they aren't even the first one's to come out with a 64-bit processor. THAT honor is bestowed upon AMD for thier Athalon XP in all it's greatness. Let's move on to software shall we? I will be the first to admit that Windows may have a few more stability issues that Mac's have had. That is, with the exception of Windows XP which has run streamline for me so far. The new OSX and subsequent version's of Mac's OS is Unix. Plain and simple. All they have done is slap the Mac GUI on it and I personally take that a plagerisum. Also, from a programmer's point of view, Apple is more tight-fisted with it's source code than Microsoft is, and that my dear friends is saying something. Also, and quite a few Mac users will agree with me on this, the majority of Mac users are quite computer illeterate. Macintosh has a user-friendly interface that borders stupidity. It stunts any growth on the end of the user in learning anything about thier computer. Imagine taking a car and sealing the hood, access ports, and make the only user-accessible part of the car the interior, and the gas cap. Now this may be a poor example, but what does it do? The owner learns how to drive the car and how to fuel it up. They are also never given any initive to work on the vehicle they own. The majority of Macintosh users are asked to mail thier computer in to Apple for service or upgrades. DJ's comment is actually very accurate, Mac's are the BMWs of computers. Sure they are. They look pretty, are nice to drive, and since you can't afford to work on it yourself, you need to go to the dealership and/or dealer authorized service to have the thing worked on. PC's are like the Honda's (again, excuse the poor example P) of computers. They are powerful, easy to work on, you can make one yourself, and teach you a lot about how the computer works. Also, some Mac users may bring up the claim that Mac's were used for the sound-editing process in Episode I and II. This is not the case. A much more sophisticated program, that was developed and used on PC's, was used for the sound-editing process. And Unix did the Graphics and special effects......  Oh, and on a sde note, PC's ARE better Gaming machines. Every Mac user I have talked to has admitted to THAT. As a conclusion, Macintosh's are good for the common person that has little or no experience in computers, and don't plan on learning much about how thier computer actually works. PC's are tools that help people learn more about the digital world. I got love for them all though, PC users and Macintosh users alike. edit:// Hey cmad, and anyone else, mind backing up your statements like saying: "M$ sucks! Heres why..." Instead of just "M$ sucks!" Thank you! _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. This comment was edited by Sared on Feb 13 2004 05:28pm. |
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koushka - Student
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A metephor if you will, I could go out and by a BMW vehicle for a lot of money. I am paying for the crafsmanship handling and various other things you get with the purchase of a beamer. The vehicle is still subjuct to the same breakdowns and whatnots that happens. Now I could go out and buy two or three chevys fords or chrysler or whatever else you want. But it still doesn't add up to the beamer. Besides no one is going to changer your mind for you. You have to take the plunge and see what this is all about. I did that last year in February. I switched to the "beamer" and I am never I repeat never going back. I can't stand windows anymore. Linux vs os X I think that matters on personal preference. I am not a big user of linux but my brother is and he likes os x not sure on is real feelings though. I guess with os x there is a smaller learning curve (merely a speculation here). I plan to try it out though because I have an open mind. Something for you windows users to see what an Apple program is like would be to dl Itunes. At first I was like man it isn't so great then it hit me, so easy to use. Organizes everything it is awesome. Give it a try. You will not be dissappointed. _______________ Faithful Padawan of {SKX}Dark Blade My profile pic is luke skywalker
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student
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Windows is a rip-off!!! If companies get a degree in something, M$ has a Ph.D. in fraud! Oh and btw; just cuz a PC is cheaper than a Mac it doesn't mean necessarily that it's worse. I don't think that Mac OS X is better than Linux. _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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