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Dragon age 2: A Warning
Mar 10 2011 11:45am

SaZ
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as you can see there is a 'disastrous games 2010' thread not so far away'.... here is the the sequel to that thread.

DO NOT BUY THIS GAME
Lets get this straight. Dragon age 1 was:
-dumbed down rpg
-fun companions
-no story development (the player knows the ending at the beginning of the game and there is no actual twist)
-good storytelling
-advertised as having more choices than any other game, yet being the same like games before
overall: nothing new, but a good game none the less.

So after playing 14 hours of Dragon Age 2.
what can i tell about it?
-COMBAT: lets be honest here, almost every combat in every game becomes repetitive. combat in this game isnt that bad. it has the same flaws of the first game: disables+aoe=imba ownage. its much more chaotic than the first game. i had a thought to turn up the difficulty, but i quickly went back to normal. why? the companion AI is really stupid. i set up tactics, behavior and everything, but that didnt prevent my healer to go far away from the party to attack the boss at pointblank range with his staff.
the monsters move unrealistically fast between the targets. its like they move normally when fighting, all the animations smooth and stuff, but when they move they are like 10x sped up. what?
there are teleportations spells, cool huh? not so cool when you cant even teleport over the ledge or cliff.
i can only name the flaws of combat - everything else is dull and not special.
-INVENTORY simplified lol. you can only equip rings, belts amulets and weapons on your companions. armor levels up. for one guy even weapon is leveling.
-CHAR DEVELOPMENT if you are rogue or mage you dont need to put a single point in strength anymore. every class has its own main stat and thats it. the abilities have similar trees like dragon age 1. overally id say char development has as much depth as lets say... dark messiah. and this was was advertised as rpg somehow lol.
-GRAPHICS thats probably the best point of the game. yes the graphics are dull and more grayish, but the general style from what ive seen its quite ok. the loading screens ae really great. if the whole game was more like loading screens it would be a thousand times better. game runs pretty well, even though demo runs about 2x shittier than the release. also BLOOD! thats pretty much the only good thing in this game.
-QUESTS AND DIALOGS the 'fun' begins here.
you get into the city and you pretty much have about... 100 quests to do.
none of them are connected. you kill magistrates son? he whines a single line and thats it. never saw him again.
they dont really have any consequences or choices. the usual dialogs are like this:

templar 1: thanks for bringing these apostates so they can be brought to the circle.
templar 2: i think they should be brough to justice right now!
me: yes! kill them now!
templar 1: thanks for your help.
exp gained
gold gained
O_o
o_O
what.

simillar stuff like this happened in most quests, you are given choices that... mean absolutely nothing.
also the game is less brutal. id imagine the increased ammount of blood would indicate the opposite, but even when you are threatening like 100th person in the district your character gets pushed away like 'pfft dont care'. conversation immediately ends. without a choice to cut his throat.

every quest involves killing no matter what. realistically your main character is a complete thug with no brain. the only way to earn gold is to kill someone. one way or another... or kill 100 others.

every dialog is about 2-3x shorter than dragon age 1. no depth to be found.
you are also shown which choice is forceful and which is peaceful. would be quite understandable if the choices actually meant something.

overall: questing and dialogs are about the depth of your average mmo in the same quest area.

oh by the way you can important a character info from the first game. met this lord harrowmond relative. killed him. 'thanks from king bhelen'
exp gained
gold gained.
DEEP SHIT YO.
COMPANIONShaving met most of them id say they are pretty weak. there are these good, lawful ones who are completely boring. nothing compared to even alistar, leliana and wynne.
all companions: look normal, they sound normal, they act normal. two companions are shown a bit more 'fucked up' than the rest, but i guess they would impress only someone who lived in the cave their whole lives.
there is also this friendship rivalry system. basically you can say something nice or something they agree with and you gain friendship points. if you tell them to gtfo the whole game... they wont quit. they will just be 'rivals' and continue to annoy you no matter what you say unless you switch to another companion.
STORYdid 100 boring quests. zero story.
considering how many quests involved killing bloodmages, dealing with apostates and templars im pretty sure it will be about them.
or this 'tevinter imperium' folk gonna involve itself somehow.
probably a dragon too, because everyone likes dragons and every game has them.

CONCLUSION if you want a rather generic singleplayer mmo-style grindfest, but cant pay monthly fee for the western ones and you dont like the asian style. this is for you!

http://img37.imageshack.us/i/da2mm.jpg

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/5338/1299706617810.jpg
these two pics shows what this game is about.
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This post was edited by SaZ on Mar 10 2011 11:48am.

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Mar 26 2011 12:36am

planK
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 planK

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This has nothing to do with the future GOTY, Dragon Age 2!


Mar 25 2011 08:48am

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

This has nothing to do with the future GOTY, Dragon Age 2!
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Mar 24 2011 10:28pm

Laziana
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 Laziana

aw, come on people. make love, not warcraft...
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Mar 24 2011 09:47pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

what questions?
3 last sentences of that last comment were so random i even forgot if there was a question at all.

anyway go play instead.
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Mar 24 2011 09:31pm

Monteeeeeee
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 Monteeeeeee

Yet you answer none of my questions....
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Mar 24 2011 07:59pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

you are finishing every thought yourself.
i didnt suggest that anywhere so im not even sure why we are discussing this.

throw your prejudices (spelling?) away. your last comment is full of them. most importantly they arent even remotely connected to the topic.

i guess my subtle suggestion not to buy the game made all of you quick to jump to conclusions. paranoid is what you are. i just dont know the reason for your completely random outbursts.
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Mar 24 2011 07:16pm

Monteeeeeee
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 Monteeeeeee

ok let me make this simple for you saz.

How are we to play a game LEGALLY, if you tell us not to buy it, but you should still play it ?

that is my question. Sure you can borrow it off a friend but this is a new game im pretty sure my friends are still playing it.

Dont start the oh your talking like all people are from the UK, Im from the UK and im explaining the ways i can play the game.

You seem to be able to offer more so either concede that point and that you ment to illegally download the game or provide me with some suggestions.
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Mar 24 2011 07:12pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

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Cant rent pc games in the uk so its either buy or download, i dont think my friend would want me to come round his house for 30hrs and play a game. So please do inform us of these other magical ways to play video games apart from buying them

because everybody lives in UK.
besides games content doesnt really change if you buy it, if you rent it or pirate it.
but... this isnt the thread for that is it.
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Mar 24 2011 07:11pm

Monteeeeeee
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 Monteeeeeee

He can borrow me the game sure, but shops dont rent PC games due to NO CD crack, and the fact of serial keys. Which i believe in dragon age link to your EA account when installing ? so yeah.
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Mar 24 2011 07:08pm

Masta
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 Masta

Renting is illegal? What? You mean I can't just have my friend borrow me his CDs/DVDs and have a go at the SP on my computer?
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Mar 24 2011 06:59pm

Monteeeeeee
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 Monteeeeeee

Cant rent pc games in the uk so its either buy or download, i dont think my friend would want me to come round his house for 30hrs and play a game. So please do inform us of these other magical ways to play video games apart from buying them
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Mar 24 2011 05:09pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

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im pretty much suggesting not to waste money on this and play it by other means...


If you are suggesting piracy, I will have to ban you. :3


there are more ways to play the game without buying it other than piracy which i didnt even suggest >.>
<.<
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Have not yet, only played a little bit so far.

well then i feel its only possible to have a proper discussion with those who finished it, because only then you can see the whole game.
how repetitive it was, what story thingies were interesting and what not. which of the possible twists were not even touched etc. which quests were completely pointless and could be compared to placeholder/timewaste/grind.
because well... in my first 10 or so hours it wasnt so bad. was really looking forward to meet flemeth again...

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This comment was edited by SaZ on Mar 24 2011 05:15pm.

Mar 24 2011 07:53am

Master Lew
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 Master Lew

I like the game, but there are some things that need improvement. Things like what has already been said, so I won't repeat them again.

I've been playing over 40 game hours and I'm still in Act 1. The game is fun to me and I'm getting my money's worth. I like to do all quests and find all items in the games I play. I'm not in a hurry to get to the end-game. The journey is more fun for me, so I take my time and 'milk' the game for all it's worth. :D
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Mar 24 2011 12:59am

planK
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 planK

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if i had a huge audience to please with my videos id probably say something like that too.


GET OUUUUUT

Mar 23 2011 06:10pm

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

I am sure he means borrowing the game from a friendly neighbor!

I finished act 1 and enjoyed it. Little time at hand to finish :(
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Mar 23 2011 03:03pm

solitude
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 solitude

Quote:
im pretty much suggesting not to waste money on this and play it by other means...


If you are suggesting piracy, I will have to ban you. :3
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Mar 23 2011 01:49pm

Masta
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 Masta

Have not yet, only played a little bit so far.
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Mar 23 2011 01:00pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

lol.
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You state at the top of this very thread DO NOT BUY THIS GAME

im pretty much suggesting not to waste money on this and play it by other means...

Quote:
he points out the flaws of the game but still appreciates that its a good game, not biowares best, but a good game.

if i had a huge audience to please with my videos id probably say something like that too.

anyway just wondering... how many of you guys finished the game?

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This comment was edited by SaZ on Mar 23 2011 01:06pm.

Mar 23 2011 03:23am

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

Group hug! Let us squeeze our negative feelings with a massive embrace!
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Mar 22 2011 09:15am

Masta
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 Masta

Awww, GROUPHUG *hugs Saz*
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Mar 21 2011 11:48pm

planK
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 planK

Bring it in you grim little bastard. <3

Mar 21 2011 11:21pm

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

We need to give Saz a group hug
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Mar 21 2011 10:17pm

solitude
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 solitude

So we are in agreement? DA2 is a great game and Saz needs more happiness in his life? :(
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Mar 21 2011 08:45pm

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

Maybe the warning is that the token dwarf isn't as funny in this installment.
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Mar 21 2011 06:26pm

planK
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 planK

I still don't get it. Is your warning that you're a miserable sod who needs to crack a smile? :P

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