| Where George Lucas Went Wrong -Buzz - May 29 09:08pm | |
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Alright so the whole world has seen the Star Wars Prequels. If you are of the group who believes they are the best possible movies George Lucas has ever made, seek professional help immediately. This essay however is not for that group but for the group who has accepted that the prequels are merely good enough as movies on they're own. For the people who have gotten over the mistakes and decided to accept them, the people who don't realize how wrong they are. So you’ve gotten over Jar Jar Binks being in the movies. Hey he’s a cheap comic thrill for the little kids. You’ve gotten over the ridiculous idea of making an action/kids movie about a trade embargo. You’ve gotten over that the Midichlorians were a stupid thing to introduce. You’ve gotten over Jake Lloyd’s horrible performance and stupid lines. You’ve gotten over the completely unbelievable romance between Padme and Anakin. You’ve gotten over the horrible dialogue that came from said romance. You’ve gotten over all the lackluster performances of the actors in the movie, because George Lucas doesn’t know how to direct actors. You’ve gotten over the horrible makeup job and voice changing of Palpatine. I mean come on, you got the same actor, make him look and talk more like he did in Return of the Jedi. You’ve even gotten over George Lucas’ desire to have 500 special effects going on in every shot of every scene throughout the movies. He obviously doesn’t know that people can become desensitized to a constant bombardment of images. He was probably hoping to distract you from the horrible dialogue he had written. You’re spending so much time going “ooo, ahhh” to notice that “Hey this dialogue sucks.” Quite a lot to get over isn’t it? And yet you have, good for you. And yet you’ve still missed the point. George Lucas has completely screwed up the Star Wars movies from a chronological/revelation standpoint. His intention was that you would be able to watch Episodes 1-6 in order and still have the Original Trilogy give you the same feelings from your first viewing. This is the reason he never shows star lines for the ships entering hyperspace in the Prequels. These errors are on the scale that if for some reason someone had made a prequel to the movie Citizen Kane, and every 5 minutes you see the sled with “Rosebud” written on it clearly. And so here we are at why he screwed up, and it might be something you haven’t even realized yet. 1. Yoda being shown in the Prequels. “But he was so cool and great in the Prequels. It was awesome seeing Yoda kick butt.” I’m talking revelations here. In ESB we are introduced to Yoda having no clue who he is. This small green little muppet is simply acting as a guide and will show Luke the way to find Yoda, the great warrior. Revealing that he is the great Jedi Master at that point in the story is a great shock and good cinema. But now that’s ruined You see him throughout the Prequels and you now know who he is. Forever when new people watch the Star Wars Movies for the first time in order “as they were meant to be seen” there will be no more amazing revelation. He should simply have been mentioned as being a great Jedi Master, essentially retired living and training Jedi on Dagobah even throughout the Prequels making everyone wonder who this great powerful Jedi is and adding even more anticipation to seeing him in ESB. 2. “Luke, I am your father.” Watching Anakin Skywalker become Darth Vader. The ultimate “whoa…” of the movies. Nothing can come close to this beautiful piece of work. Something so secret that the line in the script was “Obi-wan killed your father.” It would have been simple to keep this great moment perfectly intact if Lucas had been smart in his creation of the Prequels. Having Anakin go to the Dark side and Obi-wan fighting him could still have been included. Just simply having another student of Obi-wan that turns to the Dark side as well, and being severely injured and left to die before the final duel would have solved the problem. This allows Obi-wan’s “a pupil of mine, Darth Vader, betrayed and murdered your father” line of ANH to seem to have even more truth. You think Vader was this other student. Anakin’s fall still remains the same and his being left for dead as well works. You just have an ending sequence of deciding not to tell Luke what really happened to his father. This allows all things to be in balance for the original trilogy. 3. Luke and Leia are known to be twins from the end of Episode 3. You’re now going into ANH knowing that Leia and Luke are sister and brother. Everyone knows now that when Luke first sees the hologram of Leia he’s got a lusty gaze at his sister. Leia kisses Luke 3 times before its revealed they’re siblings. And the audience watching this knows it now from the start. Doesn’t that just make you go “ew?” Face it, there were ways that a good screenwriter could have kept it hidden that Luke and Leia were brother and sister. It could have been done by only talking about Obi-wan taking the boy. No real mentions of names. No actual hint as to where the other twin would end up. It would leave you wondering where “There is another” might be hidden away and giving you your first suspicions by Leia being able to hear Luke’s call for help. The revelation still stays in place. And remember this is from a purely chronological standpoint. I would never recommend a first time person to watch Episodes 1-3 before the Original Trilogy. Always watch the originals first due to the above facts. It would have been nice though to direct people to watch them all in order, and more importantly would have made sense. So there you have it, George Lucas’ failures to make his Prequels work with the greatness of the Originals. Of course he’s never really cared about that, he’s more willing to carve up the Originals to fit with the Prequels rather than the other way around. And you wonder how a Star Wars fan could pray and pray that George Lucas doesn’t make more movies. This is why. |
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Luke - Ex-Student 
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“a pupil of mine, Darth Vader, betrayed and murdered your father"
Obi-wan uses figuritive langauge not to be taken literally. In ROTJ Obi-wan explains this to Luke. _______________ Lucas Ammons |
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Luke - Ex-Student 
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The prequals are great enough said. _______________ Lucas Ammons |
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Alex Dkana - Staff 
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Just saw the original trilogy for the first time after having seen RotS and some bits are in my opinion better for it, the meeting between Obi-Wan and Vader in ANH, Vader and Palpy in ESB and RotJ, the final fight between Vader and Luke, especially when Vader has to choose between his son and his master. Although i agree it removes the  moment when Luke finds out the truth about Vader, i think you just have to look at that like any movie series if you jumped in a bit ahead and missed the start.Quote: Personally i thought the more shiny and futuristic looking the technology and the more flowing the combat just screamed ''ok MAJOR bit of incontinuity there'' While i agree about the fighting they can't be blamed for the technology at the time, in my opinion 1,2, and 3 best show how lightsaber combat should be portrayed. I put down the shiny starships to the fact it was the days of the republic, the most noticeable thing missing is the lack of something like the Falcon really. Quote: and also they could have got someone with better acting talent than Haydn Christensen. Christopher Lee acted him off the screen in 2 and 3. His acting was as wooden as Keanu Reeves....teenage angst throughout the whole films >.> I agree, however at least for 3 i'm not sure it can be blamed entirely on HC as he has won an award for acting by then(so he can't just be rubbish  ) i felt the writing for his and padmè's scenes inparticular were poor  Lastly similar to the "its too shiny" idea, in places it misses having someone like Han Solo around, just to represent the rougher aspect of starwars.  long post _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana |
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Raziel Anjelis - Student 
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I found the fighting sequences a bit odd comparing to each trilogy....EP4 the fighting is very stiff - especially when Obi spins around....until 6 where the fighting is a little more flowing... then you get 1,2,3 where the fighting is fastpaced and martial....like Lucas saw a martial-arts movie and thought ''oooh i like that...thats going in EP1'' Don't get me wrong, i thought the fight scenes were damn good....but far too different than 4,5,6. Personally i thought the more shiny and futuristic looking the technology and the more flowing the combat just screamed ''ok MAJOR bit of incontinuity there'' and also they could have got someone with better acting talent than Haydn Christensen. Christopher Lee acted him off the screen in 2 and 3. His acting was as wooden as Keanu Reeves....teenage angst throughout the whole films >.> _______________ Proud owner of El Vee For's 200th Comment, and Wicek's 2600th comment  DaMi3N's 400th, Trad Redav's 666th.
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well...i wish all i could say was "true enough" ... but buzz is so wampa right i can't bare to be quiet! My dad showed me the star wars movies when i was a kid (age appx 3-5)- and i mean the first version ever made, when you could litteraly see the wires on some dummies(spelling models),AT-AT legs through the cocpit(?) of the snowspeeder... - and I LOVED IT! Then i saw it again in the remake n*1 when these flaws were removed and computer enhancment was upgraded, and i loved them even more...but the seckond i heard of Lucas making the Phantom manace i thought: "you gotta be kidding..." The worst thing is that i foresaw the upcoming events; for the people i encountered afterwards, that knew the SW:TPM didn't know ANYTHING about the originals! and thus nothing of the story! hence they saw the movie just as another med-budget action movie. I was shocked and dissapointed with the fact that there even was a prequel. at my former opinion lucas should have really left the trilogy as it was. i mean... im not saying that the prequels are a waste, but whoever has seen the Ep I-III will have no tolerance for the originals. As an example: compare the saber fights in the ep1, ep2 or even ep3 to (now called)ep4 a.k.a. a new hope. i mean...i SAW and HEARD people going "EWW!!" at every swing of the lightsaber, every shot made, every jump and possibly everything else that you could find in the org's. i don't know about the dialogues, George said he never did like to write...but there is a mystery of where did he get his...insparation... One of my close friends found out where George Lucas got the inspiration of Star Wars... ...and i was shocked at his evidence... i will not yet reveil(?) the answer but here is one of the things that utterly convinced me: There is a planet, that is actually covered in a city... equals Coruscant. _______________ as long as there is light, there is darkness. if i won't win fighting i will win dying... |
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Mic Den Octela - Student 
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I cant remember if I posted earlier on here...but the correct order to show the films (according to me) is: 4, 5, 1, 2, 6, 3 or if you wanna be really fancy...  4, 5, 6, 1, 2, 3 _______________ |-HK-47 -SilkMonkey: You are receiving a warning for being_too_sexy. If you do not stop, action will be taken against you.|| (11:13:43) � Virtue dances for Silk ||Smiling owner of Smilykrazy's 6000th comment =) ||Odan Wei's Proud Big Brother|| Janus is my official TaruTaru Cuddly Animal Type Person. ||(@Virtue) Or you could just be a man and set fire to your genitals.....you won't fall asleep for days after that.......trust me.||Thomas Skywalker er for sexy for sitt eget beste!!!!| Not changing sig until the JA loosens up. (Started: Aug 31, 2005) |
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Notation - Student 
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I agree completely with what Buzz has said here. However, I believe that you can't watch the prequels before the originals if you've never seen any of them before because you wouldn't be following the author's/creator's thought process. For example, R.A. Salvatore wrote the Icewind Dale Trilogy of books first, which started us in the "middle" of the story. A few years later, he wrote the Dark Elf Trilogy of books, which delved into the past of the main character, Drizzt Do'Urden, and revealed much about him that was kept a mystery during the Icewind Dale Trilogy. The same thing applies here. If you read the Dark Elf Trilogy first, which was written second, much of the splendor of the Icewind Dale trilogy, which was written first, is ruined. So despite how Lucas intended people to watch all six movies, I feel that one should watch the originals before the prequels so that the author's train of thought is followed correctly, not the numbers given to the movies. Plus it's cool to see how technology has advanced from the originals to the prequels.  ... If that makes sense. >.> This comment was edited by Notation on Oct 21 2005 02:25am. |
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Grycen - Student 
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Quote: Either way Vader knows who he is so Obi Wan knows that Vader will tell Luke at some point who he is and this will be a test for Luke. Its dumb to think that a mentor/master would have to deceive his student in the way that Obi Wan did, I am sure Quigon is proud, pfft. You're missing Obi's point. See, by doing what he did, Obi-wan made sure that Luke would not follow his father's path. In short, he played his cards well. By making look see Vader as an enemy and by sacrificing his own life to make Luke see the evils of the Dark Side, Obi-wan became more¨"powerful than you can possibly imagine". How? By doing exactly the same thing Palpatine did to Anikin, making himself look as the definitive victim, looking at Luke at the last moment so he can see Obi's calm demeanor and his acceptance of death. This ultimately led to Luke's refusal to strike his father down in ep. VI. Obi just wanted to wait until Luke had made up his mind, I mean, imagine how bad it would be if you saw your long-lost father striking down an innocent person, you would definetely have mixed feelings and confusion, which could clott up your judgement. However, finding out later on could be a bit better. Oh and Plo, I suppose Bono is referring to the fact that in ESB Obi refers to Luke as their "last hope", even though he knows Leia exists... another of the many plot holes created by the prequels. _______________ Owner of Pink Floyd's 480th comment, Darth Sirius's 250th comment, my paddy bro Stig's 225th comment, BDKawika's 200th comment and Jedifire's 100th comment. This comment was edited by Grycen on Aug 14 2005 12:44am. |
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Plo Koon - Student 
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I fail to see Obiwan being present when the twins are born a problem, care to enlighten me bono_bob? _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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Quote: buzz, being a movie fan doesn't only mean knowing what everyone knows and reacting based off of that... there's also a practice called omniscient (sp?) structure that says the audience can know everything and therefore the emotional apex/thrust of the story is them getting caught up with the characters as THEY figure everything out. a good example of it is a horror movie, where you see the killer behind the door, but the character doesn't and starts moving towards the door and, if the filmmakers did their job, you thinking "no, don't go through that door"! that's the same way we should look at the star wars movies. that and the whole phenomenon of star wars has been beat so much to death that it's hard to get excited about anything anymore  abosoloutely agreed, although there still were a few problems in the preqeuls (like Obiwan being there when both twins were born) but they wwern't that big of a deal, I am sure you could come up with some excuse to get around it, less so how they mess up any other star wars production now :p _______________ "Darkness is simply the absence of Light" "Is it not easier to snuff out the light completely than to make no shadow or darknes at all and create pure light?" "Is there a limit to Light?" - Jawa Jedi from a galaxy far far way of the one Lucas describes ( not in that galaxy ) |
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Yuken Zalak - Student 
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Hey guys....Coming back to the first post... Now the thing with Yoda... It can be seen in two ways... If you see the movies from 4 to 3 like it should be, that you think '' What is this ''jedi master'' an old weird midget'' but if you see them from 1 to 6, then you would think... ''Lol, is this what the great jedi master became''... Now its korny...And it´s supposed to be... And the leia and luke things... When you see them kissing..You should be like ''LOL DON`T YOU KNOW YOU GUYS ARE TWINS?!?!?!?'' Anyway... And only dialogues I didn´t like was when padme was talking... Omg he was crying all the time... And the fact that Yoda wasn´t really helping... Anger is a path to the dark side..''Anakin: I ate cold soup, it was tasty...Yoda : ''Soup leads to the dark side'' ....Anakin: Hey I was able to move bigger things with the force! Yoda: Moving objects with the force leads to the dark side... I wonder what Anakin could do without Yoda whining....I think thats not very couraging...YODA...LIGHTEN UP FOR REAL...No wonder Ani wanted out as fast as possible _______________ =Y-Z= Yay Piccolo´s 777th post, [Yay Damien´s 250th post, [OMG LADY´s 800 POSTAH!!
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well just want to know ur points of view about the anakin's coming to the darkside and being seduced by palpatine... dont u think it's REALLY CRAP !!!! well, imagine u are anakin, some guy come and say u : ok i can give u the power to defeat death and... u trust him without asking any question to anybody, without any reflection on it ????? and even if u're perturbated by... whatever u want... would u loose any cleverness ? what about yoda's advices ? That's too easy : they re only made to show jedi's in anakin's eyes as straight , narrow and uncomprehending minds ( well all that was needed to EASY and QUICKLY justify Anakin's choice ). Dont u think yoda could have take care a bit more about anakin's trouble, and that anakin himself should be smarter in thet movie ? i just think with 1 or 2 scenes working deeper on that, with 2 or 3 dialogs just a lil bit better thought, the movie would have been great. i'm really disapointed about that cheap aspect ;( _______________ -=Nomad=- Following the Odan's wei... Brother to Solitude Give fun to ur saber, and it will give fun to you ! |
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Seth C. Belouve - Student 
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Personnally, the only reason I went to see 1-3 was for the Lightsaber sequences. I'd hate to bring up this shows name but....The prequals are to the originals what Enterprise is to the rest of the star trek line.  _______________ Look unto me for I possess the blue flag!! It is more beautiful then I ever imagined! You will now worship me as if I were a god! *smack, dies* I regret nothing, I lived as few men dared dream!! Red Guy from Red Vs. Blue Series |
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[Koji] - Student ![[Koji]](/image_thumbnail.php?f_type=users&f_width=70&f_height=70&f_image=9150.png)
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Now we know what Boba looks like. Thats what *I* hate George Lucas for. *Growl* |
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Buzz - Student 
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And if the original trilogy was done in the omniscient manner I'd be less critical. Not all movies are done this way though either. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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doobie - Jedi Council 
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buzz, being a movie fan doesn't only mean knowing what everyone knows and reacting based off of that... there's also a practice called omniscient (sp?) structure that says the audience can know everything and therefore the emotional apex/thrust of the story is them getting caught up with the characters as THEY figure everything out. a good example of it is a horror movie, where you see the killer behind the door, but the character doesn't and starts moving towards the door and, if the filmmakers did their job, you thinking "no, don't go through that door"! that's the same way we should look at the star wars movies. that and the whole phenomenon of star wars has been beat so much to death that it's hard to get excited about anything anymore _______________ -Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament -I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me |
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Buzz - Student
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Dan, what is good or acceptable fanwise for the story is not the same as what would be good cinemtically. Sure the story doesn't change for the characters, but it has changed for you. You aren't shocked with Luke any longer about the revelations that come to him in the movies. To understand what I'm getting at you can't look at it completely as a star wars fan. Be a movie fan and look at what has been taken away by watching the prequels first. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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El Vee For - Student 
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Well Said!!! Prequels never turnout the way they should, they always tie into the "original" in a way that could effectively ruin the effect of the "original". Lucas was really focused on giving his core audience exactly what they wanted so he could bankroll his pitiful production company for another 20 years before its next hit. Lets look a Lucasfilms other fine pieces of work. Willow, Labryinth, Tucker, Radioland Murders, Body Heat, Twice Upon a Time, Howard the Duck, Latino, Kagemusha... There is a reason you have never heard of these films, they blow!! I will give him some credit for American Graffiti but not its lame sequel More American Graffiti (who came up with that lame name, how about a sequel that doesn't mention the original in the title), and THX is a very interesting film but not that entertaining, feels more like a character study than a movie. Then of course there is Indiana Jones which would have blown dog too if not for the very genius of its director a Mr. Steven Spielberg. Yoda should definately not have been such a big part of the prequels, retiring to a planet full of life but lacking technology seems ideal to a 800 year old Jedi of his mastery. Too bad Lucas didn't get/have this idea before writing eps 1-3. I don't think we would have much choice but to know that Luke and Leia were bro and sis, just no way around it. The movies would have been more pointless without witnessing Anakins fall. Obi Wan spins the story of Anakin/Vader to Manipulate Luke Skywalker. Yes thats right Obi Wan spins a tale of gold in order to stir the desire for revenge and put Luke on the path to facing Vader. The thin "that name has no meaning to me anymore" excuse that leads us to think that it is okay to call Anakin, Darth Vader is ridiculous as well, Obi Wan refers to Vader as "Darth" Like Obi Wan doesn't know his real name, he didn't seem to troubled to call him Anakin as he was getting his little lava make over. Plus he uses "Darth" like it is his first name, its a title. Like "Master" or "Senator". Obi Wan should have called him Anakin. "When we last met I was but the learner, now I am the Master" "Only a Master of Evil, Darth" Makes it sound like they are talking over a beer, not the kind of banter I would expect between former friends. Either way Vader knows who he is so Obi Wan knows that Vader will tell Luke at some point who he is and this will be a test for Luke. Its dumb to think that a mentor/master would have to deceive his student in the way that Obi Wan did, I am sure Quigon is proud, pfft. EDIT: Oh and just one more little thing, if you are trying to hide a child from his father, even if the father assumes the child dead, wouldn't change the kid's name. Maybe Luke Lars just didn't fit, but somehow Leia Organa did, what Tatooine doesn't have any adotion Legislation. Don't get me wrong I love the stories (prequel and original) but they (prequels) definately could have use some tweaking before they are spewed out at us. Guess a huge profit waits for no one. Plot goofs aside it was cool to see some dueling Peace _______________ “Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you’re still retarded.” This comment was edited by El Vee For on Jun 21 2005 07:27pm. |
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dan - Student 
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to be honest i dnt believ the yoda thing is that crutial because at the end of the day luke doesnt know who he is, and thats the point of the film not who we know he is, because we had that thrill when they first came out. and to be honest the only thing lucas has done with the graphics side of things is make thae whole of the star wars side more exiting and broadens the horizons on which you imagine it to be like, not cover up the lines. and the jar jar thing, i dnt think thats that bad, c-3po and r2 were put in the originals, for kids funnily enough, having no new characters for this generation of children would be less exiting, jar jar,watto and dexter are all put in to add variation in the movie and to keep the films exiting, there were new characters in the old ones as the story moved along so why not add new ones to the new, lando, he was introduced in empire, so were the ewoks, jabba the gammoreans twilek males, the list goes on in jedi, this was done for the same reason as above, to keep people exited. after all if these were not in place would there be a timeline in the story the new charaters add a sense of progression in the films so you know what goes on and when. the new characters are vital as well as fun for younger viewers. these films were made for the younger generations not for the fogies. but they have balanced out what they can for the older audiences. also the father thing, hmmm, i have to dissagree on this front also, as luke, again doesnt know vader is his father. again,, we all had that thrill in the older days. the "i am your father" bit is still intact as luke still doesnt know!!!!?!?!?! could u imagine if luke turned round and said "tell me something i dont know for christ sake"? i couldnt. so over all id say that the story is still intact as you follow the main characters through the movie, not what you know already. you are supposed to watch the actors facial expressions and body language in these scenes and see how they affect there feelings. That is why luke and vader are the main characters because its the story of there lives. and what good and bad things they have both done, in short the star wars saga is unbelievebly well put together. lucas has created all of us a dream world to escape in, would u be writing on this page if he didnt? what would be of jedi, sith , galactic bounty hunters, all the creatures on all the games movies would they be around without his imagination, i think that awnswer would be no. so now everyone has a headache from reading my post. i hope u will appreaciate what lucas has really done, not for little things that dont matter. that someone has put a lot of thought into wrecking someones creation, and see that this is an un justified post. May the force be with all of us. until our destiny is revealed _______________ "Be honourable, To yourselves and others, be leaders, not followers. Be the ones, others look up to" the words from the great but retired janus who i hold much respect for an still very thankful for the help he gave me in my early days "Janus the academy will miss you" |
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Quote: Of course I could be wrong, but I doubt it Bwhahaha, love that comment I agree the first three movies destroys most of the "wooow" scenes... So I would prolly set them in the order 4-5-6-1-2-3 like we saw them Ownage movies nonetheless _______________ Artificial intelligence beats natural stupidity. |
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InuYasha - Student 
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Quote: Of course I could be wrong, but I doubt it i doubt it too _______________ Quote: Ahh, yeah that InuYasha dude r0x like hell ! "When You Earnestly Believe You Can Compensate For A Lack Of Skill By Doubling Your Efforts, There's No End To What You Can't Do." |
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solitude - Jedi Council 
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Koyi Donita - Student 
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One comment I have about the whole Obi being trained by Yoda is towards the end of RoTS, Yoda was going to train him a bit more. It was more specific about the area, but wasn't exactly limited to it. Also, the answer given about Masters teaching the yunglings would fit quite well. Another thing is that Obi never really spoke direct truth in the OT. Many of the things he said swayed heavily on his own point of view so maybe just have Yoda as being top dog on top of the council on top of the whole Jedi Academy was enough for him to be under his training. No real straight answer to this one I feel, but many different answers could be right. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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Carve - Student 
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Quit trolling. It's dumb. Also, I agree with whoever agreed with Doobie's post. Thread over. _______________ © |
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