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they should of had him beat Dooku or something..Cause he didn't look as though he'd be the one This post was edited by Orion on Sep 27 2004 12:23am. |
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Plo Koon - Student 
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Hmm i dont believe Vader "Tked" (Teamkilled) , hence he turned back to the lightside so he really wasnt on the sith side any more  _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student 
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Thats just their view on their rule. Only the strongest can rule. _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON  .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
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Anakin - Student |
Anakin killed the emperor so he profilled the prophecy and did bring balance to the force |
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JavaGuy - Student 
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Quote: I think even the Emperor feared Vader some, knowing how powerful he was. Certainly. I don't think any Sith master/apprentice pair had what could be described as a healthy relationship. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student 
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Yes a "debunk" would be a pliable ending. But, in the case of the Jedi, a Prophacy from an old Jedi Master isn't just some ramble from a 70 yo voodoo woman. Jedi get visions and Masters are powerful. Maybe over time the prophacy turned into myth. A mere Jedi legend, or story of hope. Anakin's birth wasn't natural. He is the "son" of the force. I think it was Anakins fate to become powerful in that which he was concieved. I think even the Emperor feared Vader some, knowing how powerful he was. He found a way into Anakin's teaching thru his anger. Just think if Anakin hadn't of turned. Sidious wouldn't have lasted long. _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
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JavaGuy - Student
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It also depends on what it means to bring the Force into balance. The premise of Phantom Menace is that the Light Side has reigned supreme for a thousand generations and that the Dark Side has been in hiding. By turning to the Dark Side and reducing the game to two Sith Lords, one Jedi Master and one powerful Jedi in hiding, plus the hidden twins, he arguably balanced it out considerably. Of course, one might equally argue that the dominance of the Light side is the natural order of things and that the universe is unbalance when the Dark side prevails. In that case you could still make a case for Anakin bringing the Force back into balance when he TKed the Emperor...the prophecy simply fails to mention that the Force would be brought back to balance by someone who was instrumental in unbalancing it in the first place. My preferred outcome would be that in Ep III the whole "prophecy" thing is revealed to be complete bunk. Again, Yoda is quite open about his skepticism, and even Windu, who sort of seems to believe it, is careful to couch his references to it in terms of "if he is the Chosen One." So an Ep III that completely debunks the whole prophecy as an urban legend--a galactic legend?--would seem a satisfying explanation. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student
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I don't think Anakin is Actually "The One". The Dark side Clouds the force while the Lights Side clears it. Anakin's Child, Luke is the reason He came back from the dark side. So some can say that Luke is "The One". think aboud id _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
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Vaughn - Student 
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heh, Java, i see what you're saying with your second post. A prophecy can be someone wanting the future to turn out in some way. But that doesnt contradict what i said in a way<-- if you read the prophecy and decide "hey, this could be bad" and do all of whats within your power to stop it, you're changing history... unless of course fate/theprohpecy said that youwoudl do that.. but lets not get into the confusing things. clear as mud? _______________ When you become an actor, you become the person, and you dont act anymore. You just are. - Tyler HP, Taught by Mr G Simpson |
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JavaGuy - Student 
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Well sure, we may not understand exactly how or why a prophecy is going to be fullfilled, but two things: Firstly, a prophecy has to have some meaning or else it is, well, meaningless. "Something bad is going to happen in 2005" isn't a prophecy but a statement of the obvious, since bad things happen somewhere in the world every day and presumably still will in 2005. To be a Prophecy it has to give some kind of specifics. Secondly, a prophecy, if it really is a prophecy, still contradicts the notion of an open-ended future. If the prophecy is that XYZ is going to happen but I misunderstand its meaning and think it means something else, that doesn't change the fact that XYZ was preordained. If the prophecy meant, for example, that Vader was going to TK the Emperor, then the future could hardly be said to be "always in motion." That Annakin's groupies mistakenly believe that the prophecy meant he would be a good Jedi does not change the fact that the prophecy did have a specific meaning, even if others misinterpretted it, and that the future was inescapably locked onto that path. Another thought: On this thread and others I've emphasized that we don't know if the prophecy is real or not. Well maybe it's "worse" than not real: Maybe the Sith Lords themselves long ago looked into the future and saw Anakin. That would mean that it is not really a prophecy of an immutable future, but merely a vision of the always-in-motion future that could still be changed but that they hoped would not. Then perhaps the Sith themselves began spreading the legend of the "prophecy" in hopes that, centuries later it would be such an ingrained part of the Republic's culture that the Jedi would be completely taken in by Anakin. A stretch? In the real world where people can't really see into the future, sure, but perhaps not at all in a world where people use the Force. In any case, when one hears a "prophecy" it is good to suspect the motives of the prophet. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Vaughn - Student
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Quote: Ya, the new dvd set shows a preview for EpIII. I'd say he's Much more of a bad ass in this one. And the fight between him and Obi-wan...OMFG 1000+ moves...need I say more? I also think its gonna be the longest fight scene in cinema history. Over 12 minutes. So kinda like the duels in Huxley's Old Style Sabering class? Quote: A prophecy doesn't exactly allow for an open-ended future. Yeah, it may not, but heres the funny part, you never understand the prophecy until after it happens. So the prophecy is like saying vaguely that something bad will happen in the year 2005. then, in december of 2005, we realised that the thing that went bad was that we all saw Anakin fall to the dark side. So, its open-ended interpretations _______________ When you become an actor, you become the person, and you dont act anymore. You just are. - Tyler HP, Taught by Mr G Simpson This comment was edited by Vaughn on Oct 15 2004 05:42am. |
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JavaGuy - Student
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Well remember that he was just a learner in Ep II. Against Dooku he was all set up to do very well but in his arrogance rushed in and got zapped. It was his arrogance that lost the fight for him, not lack of skill. After he had recovered a bit he did passably well until he lost the arm--think how well he might have done had he not been blasted with lightning first. Also, about the "chosen one" thing, we don't know for sure that any of this is true. Obi-Wan thinks it's true, but we don't know how much his belief is colored by his fierce loyalty to his late master, who certainly believed it but was also given to a sort of tunnel-vision, so certain of his own beliefs that he was unwilling to heed the cousel of others, even Yoda. Mace Windu seems hopeful, but even qualifies his statements: "If he is the chosen one..." Yoda himself is extremely skeptical and makes no bones about it. The whole idea of a prophecy doesn't exactly fit into the Star Wars universe, either. In Ep V Yoda says that the future is always in motion, and then proves it when his own predictions of the future, usually accurate, are stunningly wrong on a couple of points. A prophecy doesn't exactly allow for an open-ended future. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Thomasooo - Student 
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Anakin is pretty good. He's just too damn cocky. He should also try to control his feelings more. Well...we all know what his destiny is anyway!  _______________ In the navy and LOVING it! 
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Jarhok Belouve - Student 
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hmm i think obi wan is held back by the light side of the force, imagine him on the dark side !!!! talk about all powerful!!! _______________ -JARHOK BELOUVE- Unofficial Paddy to the great Squibit Belouve and Solitudes snog machine! |||||||||||||||||||||||PRONOUNCED JARHOK TEH S3X3H by Alexander D'kana||||||||||||||||||||||||| Loves Liso'sia! Uber new Belouve boy! My special people: Squibit Belouve,Roan Belouve,Bail Hope Belouve and of course the lovely Liso'sia! |
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(Jedi)Obi-JK - Student 
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Oh yeah I totally forgot how owned he got in the beginning. but yeah after that, when Dooku fought Anakin after he made laughable work of Obi-wan _______________ Silent Bob (Kevin Smith): You know, there's a million fine looking women in the world, dude. But they don't all bring you lasagna at work. Most of 'em just cheat on you. -Steve (Obi) |
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Plo Koon - Student
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are you saying anikan-the foolish cocky kid did better than obiwan in the duel against dooku? maybe after he screwed up first....ofcourse hes the chosen one! _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too This comment was edited by Plo Koon on Sep 29 2004 09:24pm. |
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(Jedi)Obi-JK - Student
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Well I think Anakin was fine, in Ep2 he was pretty good, he did better against Dooku then Obi-wan did, and I think that was the impression that Lucas was trying to give. Also, I think the key will be how pwoerful he is when he falls to the darkside. Before now we are supposed to realize he has this massive potential, but since he can't control himself he just isn't that good yet. Once he falls its all going to come out. So basically Anakin in Ep2, is a huge bomb dropped out of a plane, than didnt explode, but fell on a house, killing a family and thier dog. In Ep3 Anakin will be that same bomb, but this time KA-BOOM. _______________ Silent Bob (Kevin Smith): You know, there's a million fine looking women in the world, dude. But they don't all bring you lasagna at work. Most of 'em just cheat on you. -Steve (Obi) |
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student
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Ya, the new dvd set shows a preview for EpIII. I'd say he's Much more of a bad ass in this one. And the fight between him and Obi-wan...OMFG 1000+ moves...need I say more? I also think its gonna be the longest fight scene in cinema history. Over 12 minutes. _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
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Jippie Phoenix - Student 
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yer I think he is a whinger and if a bit cocky,buts its to show the devlopment of his character into vader who doesn't whine. Instead he chokes peops to death when he dont get his way yay for Vader!! _______________ |
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Plo Koon - Student
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well if we dont enjoy him whining,then why dont we enjoy yours? _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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Ashyr - Student 
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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Quote: no worries, you'll see a stronger Anakin in May or we might be seeing a whining anakin _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Tido - Student 
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no worries, you'll see a stronger Anakin in May |
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Plo Koon - Student
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hes just a padawan,he was so self confident and cocky he thought he could take down a sith lord _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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