| John Kerry Vietnam Game! | |
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Flux - Student  |
Yes, it is truely the game everyone has been waiting for. The John Kerry Vietnam game! Featuring Vietnam-era weapons, Vietnam-era vehicles, and (my favorite) a kinda-sorta accurate John Kerry model complete with assault rifle-toting action. The whole thing is actually a mission add-on to another game called Kuma/War which is available as a trial version for 7 days. So you can either play the real-life Iraq War missions, or just have a ball blasting away as John Kerry. _______________ When great gentlemens come together in a place. It could happen. All these gentlemen are Howard's family. Everybody knows them, but nobody knows. Why they come together.......... Just play cards. |
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Gradius - Ex-Student 
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 Buzz: I'm voting for Kerry! *runs and hides* <3 Buzz  _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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Buzz - Student 
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Quote: Yeah all the republicans where mad when he came back saying the war was a atrocaty,it was a mistake,the Republicans couldn't say "you dont know you werent there!" because he was there.He fought where they feared to go. God Plo you really need to learn some things. The guy Kerry pulled out of the water is Republican. I've got 2 uncles who served and they don't support Kerry. Most of the people who protested the war were democrats. The people you support more than often went and threw blood on every soldier and military nurse returning from Nam, calling them baby killers. They don't need the "you don't know you weren't there" argument. They have the "you were there and you lied in front of everyone using testimony that was proven to be false and you still won't apologize for the false accusations that turned people against the troops just doing their duty." That's a bit more of a stronger argument than "you don't know you weren't there." And by the way, you don't know, you weren't there, and you're not taking the time to look for information from reliable sources on the era. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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JavaGuy - Student 
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He did more than that. Kerry testified in the Winter Soldier hearings before Congress. In it, lots of veterans testified that rape, torture, child murder and so one were not only common practice, but that they were sanctioned by officers at every level of command. Kerry himself testified that this was true and that he had seen with his own eyes attrocities committed as a matter of daily routine. Now it's true that Americans did commit attrocities. We know because they were arrested and court-martialed for it and went to prison. Because of the courts martial there is a written record of it. But it was also extremely rare. After the Winter Solder testimonies, the Pentagon went nuts wanting further information about these alleged attrocities. They tried to get the veterans who testified to having witnessed specific incidents to talk to them...but not a single one would. Even when offered immunity, not a single one would talk. B. G. Burkett, who wrote the book Stolen Valor in 1997, found out why--most of the "veterans" who testified to having witnessed these attrocities had never served in the military at all. Many of those who had served had never actually been in Vietnam. They were just mentally deranged attention-seekers. But the damage had been done. No, Kerry's claim that attrocities were a daily occurance and sanctioned by officers at all levels was a lie--one that he has never appologized for. The truth is that when officers learned of war crimes, they went ballistic. Now let's look at the Communists we were fighting, the North Vietnamese who were invading South Vietnam. They, in fact, did commit attrocities on a regular basis, and those attrocities actually were sanctioned by officers at all levels of command. They burned villages and massacred civilians. They raped. They tortured. One of their favorites was to torch a village and claim the Americans had done it. This is all record. Back home, fresh from the Winter Soldier fraud and looking to launch his political career, John Kerry said in a television interview that he didn't think it would make a difference to the average South Vietnamese if the U.S. pulled out. He said that if the Communists took over, "maybe a thousand" South Vietnamese would need to seek assylum in the United States. Then Kerry went to France--while still a member of the U.S. armed services--to meet with the Viet Cong! More on this in a moment. So then the U.S. pulled out of South Vietnam. In just the first few months, the Communists murdered over 60,000 civilians, the ones Kerry said wouldn't mind if the U.S. pulled out. Subsequently, 1.5 million "Boat People" risked their lives in rickety, crappy, deathtrap boats on the open sea to try to escape Communist rule in Vietnam. They died in vast numbers. But John Kerry got into the Senate. These were the people Kerry said didn't care one way or the other if they had Communism or democracy. He openly mocked the struggle to keep the Communist butchers out of their country as a "mystical war." Then Kerry was discharged from the military. Records show this was pursuant to a meeting of a board of officers, which would not be the case for a normal Honorable Discharge. Kerry refused to sign the Pentagon's standard Form 180, which would authorize release of these records and clear up the mystery. Many military observers think they know the explanation. Kerry's discharge happened in 1978. But Kerry enlisted for a six-year stint in 1966, meaning he would be discharged in 1972. What's up with that? Many military folks think that he was denied honorable discharge because he went to Paris to meet with the enemy while still a member of the armed forces--which would make perfect sense. An odd coincidence--Kerry claims that he lost his medal certificates, which strikes me as odd, and asked that they be reissued. But when one is Dishonorably Discharged, all medals and honors are revoked. And in 1985, five months after John Kerry joined the Senate, all of his medals were reissued. I wonder what really happened to them...Kerry could sign Form 180 and solve the mystery, but I think I know already. And by the way, this nonsense about Republicans not serving is really going off the deep end. Do you know what percentage of active-duty military folks vote Republican? It's something like 87%. The military was staunchly Republican during Vietnam, too. Go tell the people fighting and dying in Iraq that they never served.  _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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SaberWeildinKow - Student 
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You can't be serious Plo. The Republicans were ticked because Kerry came back and generalized that all Vietnam veterans were baby-killers and war criminals. |
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Plo Koon - Student 
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Yeah all the republicans where mad when he came back saying the war was a atrocaty,it was a mistake,the Republicans couldn't say "you dont know you werent there!" because he was there.He fought where they feared to go. _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too This comment was edited by Plo Koon on Oct 30 2004 03:35am. |
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Buzz - Student
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Kerry tried everything he could to not serve in combat. Hence his joining the Navy before they were ever used in Vietnam, and stating his dissatisfaction about it. The concession I give Kerry is that he did his duty while he was there and didn't go AWOL or run away while in Vietnam. Of course actions afterwards tend to take away that concession. And since Bush wanted to be a pilot it would have been Air Force not Army. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. This comment was edited by Buzz on Oct 29 2004 11:42pm. |
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Plo Koon - Student
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Well if he wanted combat back then he should've joined the Army not National Guard  _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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JavaGuy - Student 
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Quote: lets see a Bush game! oh wait he never served in combat,He joined the National Guard to not go to war. I have yet to hear you explain how volunteering for extremely dangerous fighter pilot duty and requesting combat duty at the height of the Vietnam War is a good way to "avoid" combat duty. Seems like a peculiar means of avoidance to me. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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DJK - Student 
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Hhaha lmao |
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Plo Koon - Student 
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lets see a Bush game! oh wait he never served in combat,He joined the National Guard to not go to war. _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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DJK - Student
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OH FOR GOD SAKE!!!!1 >_<!! |
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Buzz - Student
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They put Kerry in it because it is based off the events he took part in during his service in Vietnam. To no include him would kind of be insulting since it is based around him. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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JavaGuy - Student
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'Cause Kumawar highlights real-world battles that have been in the news a lot. those really seem to be the only criteria--real battle, in the news a lot. Haven't seen the Uday and Kusay mission, but it sounds way cool. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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DJK - Student 
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Thats not the point! the point is WHY oh why oh why they just HAD to put Kerry in it!! |
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JavaGuy - Student
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Quote: java, im not talking about the game. im talking about the election......poo....I dont see why it should be posted here. But this thread is about the game! Kumawar looks rather pricy for what you get, but I love the concept. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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Wow, this owns....I can do the Iraq missions? Cool! |
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DJK - Student
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java, im not talking about the game. im talking about the election......poo....I dont see why it should be posted here. |
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JavaGuy - Student
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I don't see why not post this here. It is a real computer game--been in the news several times in the past couple of months. There's a download where you can play Usay or Kuday or the assault team that stormed their compound! In the Kerry maps, though, I wonder...Do you get to go to Cambodia? _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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SaberWeildinKow - Student 
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Please do not take the name of cow poop in vain |
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DJK - Student
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Rofl, i think this whole debate thing is getting out of hand now. do we realy need all this...well.....cow poop...on our forums? |
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