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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Good or bad that Bush won? Discusssssss! |
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Everybody - Student 
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Everyone at my school hates Bush. Even my 'clever' art teacher accidentally called him a retard. But I don't see whats so bad about him. It's good that the UK (my country) has links with America, although it will make us more vulnerable to terrorist attacks. _______________ Signature, schmignature. |
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Buzz - Student 
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Quote: Kerry has come up with a campaign a president worthy, he did not try to bully Bush down instead he gave his own ideas on stuff. Allthough a large part of it was just marking the errors and not giving any solutions he did something, while Bush was only speaking about him being a good leader and telling Kerry just sucked. You contradict yourself. You said Kerry's main plan was pointing out errors and not giving solutions. That's pretty much just saying Bush sucks. They ran about the same. The difference was Bush ran on his record and could point out things that some people thought he did good and play on the fact that people thought he would be stronger than Kerry on National Security. Kerry ran on his military record that he refused to completely release to the public, and not using his 20 year record in the senate. Of course the Republican campaign was more than happy to use it. The point is that both parties tried running the "The other guy is horrible" campaign, and at the end of the day Bush is the president. You can be happy, you can be disappointed and move on, or you can be like some morons out there whining about wanting to put it in the courts forever to try and cheat a win or call for civil war. I'd recommend moving on. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Aayla Secura - Ex-Student 
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In a word. BAD _______________ IN UR FACE I'M NOT BLONDE! |
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Nero - Student 
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Must say I had rather seen Kerry winning this election. With the being a president thing I think they aren't very different, I think the relation with Iraq is screwed anyway and none of them both can change the economical situation more than the other can. So... why would I vote Kerry? Basicly because two things, First: Kerry has come up with a campaign a president worthy, he did not try to bully Bush down instead he gave his own ideas on stuff. Allthough a large part of it was just marking the errors and not giving any solutions he did something, while Bush was only speaking about him being a good leader and telling Kerry just sucked. Second: I absolutely H-A-T-E this Cheque system that the Bush government uses, in a country in Africa the Navo would send 5000 men to make sure it remains democratic while Bush can just do it without anyone complaining... So mainly it's not because Kerry is better than Bush, but the way Bush made campaign is just... Wrong edit:/ I think Kerry is more aware of the position of the USA in the rest of the world too _______________ -Nero Quote: Curious, Smartass, what else? This comment was edited by Nero on Nov 04 2004 05:26pm. |
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Duffman - Student 
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Quote: Your social security would have been gone under kerry as well plo. It will disappear eventually because of the baby boomers. And it was never meant to be the sole source of income for retiring people anyways. And the $3 trillion dollar surplus or however much it was actually didn't exist. It was a figure based off of so many years. Its not like Bush suddenly went and spent all of it. And the way Clinton was all about shrinking the military I wouldn't be all that shocked to find out that the surplus was based on an ever shrinking military for the US. combine that with the fact that kerry's opinion of bush's plan for iraq is the draft, which no republican brought up, that was all the democrats. And Kerry's "plan" for Iraq? We're out in 6 months after he's in office. Thus leaving our mess there, and thus making iraq the next north korea? You honestly want another country in that area pissed at us? I think you will find your friend not fast to rush by your side if they knew what that ment. There is more then 2 issues that made/lost this election for both sides. Dont get all crazy because of a few things said to do nothing but scare you and make you crazy. and fyi (coming from someone who was raised in the military) A drafted army works a hell of a lot worse than one that is all volentary. _______________ *Sigh* Married to Mirael D'kana, Former master to Shangri Stomwind and Crash D'Kana, Owner of Gil-Galad's 100th post, Khâ D'Kana's 700th post, and friend to just about everyone |
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Buzz - Student
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Your social security would have been gone under kerry as well plo. It will disappear eventually because of the baby boomers. And it was never meant to be the sole source of income for retiring people anyways. And the $3 trillion dollar surplus or however much it was actually didn't exist. It was a figure based off of so many years. Its not like Bush suddenly went and spent all of it. And the way Clinton was all about shrinking the military I wouldn't be all that shocked to find out that the surplus was based on an ever shrinking military for the US. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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SaberWeildinKow - Student 
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Quote: Bad,No social security for me,I'm gonna have to put on my battle fatigues and crawl through the mud once I graduate High school. I really can't believe how people can vote for someone who screws up the country and says its going to get better. He comes in,takes a 3 trillion dollar surplus (extra money) and turns it into a negitave 3 trillion dollar deficit and says its gonna get better after he's the one who made it bad in the first place! Plo, social security will be over once the baby boomers hit retirement age. |
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DJK - Student 
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They both sux. there, its said. This comment was edited by DJK on Nov 04 2004 12:52am. |
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Dicemaster - Student 
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I voted for bush this time around, but I must safe in this election i truely believed that he was the lesser of two evils. I thought they were both not very good for president, but I thought kerry was worse. -Dice _______________ Dicemaster |
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Flux - Student 
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I'm pro-Bush. Like everyone's said, he's not afraid to take a stand on terrorism and threats to the U.S. and the rest of the world. Many people are pro-Kerry because of the whole Iraq thing, but you've got to remember that Kerry (and the majority of Congress) were pro-Iraq towards the opening of the whole war. The whole war may have been a mistake, but if there's anyone to blame, Bush isn't the only one. He's done a pretty fine job of re-building the weakened economy and military from the Clinton-era as well as managing 9/11. Another thing I like about him is that he cares about the common man. He was there for the people of New York after 9/11 and he was there to help with the Florida hurricanes (a thing that Kerry discouraged because he said that Bush would just "get in the way" in Florida). His speeches seem to come more from the heart as opposed to Kerry's perfectly memorized Bush-bashing monotone. So what if Bush messes up sometimes? It just shows that he is more closely-related to the people. The real issues are what need to be focused on, not the little details such as how a President wears his hair or if he sometimes stumbles a bit in his wording. Kerry just doesn't seem to have strong views. Whether it's completely changing his views on Iraq or leaving Vietnam to criticize his brothers-in-arms that were still fighting, he just doesn't seem strong on anything. During his campaign he hardly offered much of his plans and instead focused on Bush-bashing. Just my two cents. _______________ When great gentlemens come together in a place. It could happen. All these gentlemen are Howard's family. Everybody knows them, but nobody knows. Why they come together.......... Just play cards. |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Quote: To summarise, I like seeing Bush in office, because: 1) He dares to take a stand at a subject and sticks with it. Can't say that for Kerry (imo) 2) He's more kinder than I could possibly imagine Kerry ever being. Case in point, the girl who had lost her mother in the World Trade Center, and how he saw her, and gave her a hug, and asked how she was doing. Personally, I don't see Kerry doing that all of a sudden. 3) Kerry only won at the beginning because he wasn't Bush. No honor in that fight, and to be honest, I'm glad that the American People saw it too :-) 1) He takes a stand, even if that means pissing off every other country in the world. And while Kerry may or may not have been changing his mind too much (I wouldn't know, haven't read all that much about his supposed stance changing), but it is a fact a clever man should always be able to take a new stance, when new and better intel is on the table. Taking a stand and sticking with it is alright at times, but sometimes you must be flexible. 2) Now, this isn't just solely Bush I'm talking about, but I distrust a lot of politicians.. and so, I'm not too sure on whether they would have hugged/kissed/whatever the mum/child/etc if it wouldn't have been good for their overall image. And then there's just those who do not do those kind of things - I'm one of them. 3) While the majority in America may be for Bush, I feel it's far from a good thing when the other half goes "Bush vs Anyone But Bush" mode. Something's messed up then. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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okay, in my opinion, which I'll keep short due to time reasons ( ) I think it's great that Bush wonI have recently won a debate against 12 people who were all Pro-Kerry. I actually convinced more than half of them to vote for Bush, if they had the chance of voting. We're from Belgium, and that's the other side of the world, but still, I like seeing Bush in office. He isn't always serious, he doesn't mind being mocked (which is essential for a leader in my opinion), and him having dyslexia is just another way of showing, he's just human, like all (or most) of us. Personally, I loved it when the debate started and immediately someone said: "Because he's stupid, I don't like him! He can say the dumbest things... EVER!" All I had to do was bring up his dyslexia problems, and well, that fight was won. I also hate seeing people arguing about something when they haven't done their research, or don't even know what the hell Kerry looks like. Personally, I admit that almost half a year ago, I was contra-Bush, until I had the facts laid out before me by several people in the JA. This hasn't only given me a huge interest in politics, which I'm intending to teach later on, when I get my degree, but has also clearly opened up my view about the world. To summarise, I like seeing Bush in office, because: 1) He dares to take a stand at a subject and sticks with it. Can't say that for Kerry (imo) 2) He's more kinder than I could possibly imagine Kerry ever being. Case in point, the girl who had lost her mother in the World Trade Center, and how he saw her, and gave her a hug, and asked how she was doing. Personally, I don't see Kerry doing that all of a sudden. 3) Kerry only won at the beginning because he wasn't Bush. No honor in that fight, and to be honest, I'm glad that the American People saw it too :-) _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Sared - Retired 
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Booyah!  _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
$5.000.000.000.000 is a hell of a lot of money. I didn't even know the US had half of that. |
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JavaGuy - Student 
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A 5 trillion dollar surplus? LOL!!! Plo, you must just love looking silly.  _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Plo Koon - Student 
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Bad,No social security for me,I'm gonna have to put on my battle fatigues and crawl through the mud once I graduate High school. I really can't believe how people can vote for someone who screws up the country and says its going to get better. He comes in,takes a 3 trillion dollar surplus (extra money) and turns it into a negitave 3 trillion dollar deficit and says its gonna get better after he's the one who made it bad in the first place! _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too This comment was edited by Plo Koon on Nov 03 2004 10:54pm. |
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D@mned ++ - Student 
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Gradius - Ex-Student 
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Bush won? Damn.... Holland, here I come  _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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JavaGuy - Student
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Tido - Student 
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compared to Kerry?!!?! Very good! |
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CuZzA - Student 
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bush all the mother freakin' way _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world |
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget 
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well i wanted to see someone different than bush, but now he has it for another 4 yrs leets not be bitter, we can only hope he can improve........ like the labour song when tony blair won was, Things can only get better.... well i hope they can _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are
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solitude - Jedi Council 
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Delfos - Student 
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bad! i wanted kerry to win! x( lets see if Bush changes for betta _______________ If u only knew the powa of the Orange Side! * |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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