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A basic explanation of the Matrix (i did not write it, but it did explain a lot to me, it needed to with that damn twisted 'story'  )Zion Zion is a program, just like the Matrix. How is Neo able to figure out that he is able to stop the sentinels in Zion near the end of the film? The spoon given to him earlier. It had obviously been bent loads, but how outside the Matrix?? This gave Neo the inspiration and the understanding that Zion is still a matrix. The One explained "The One" is a program, but has to be "attached" to someone in the Matrix. So Mr. Anderson got it in the 6th version of the Matrix. Then "The One" program's purpose is to allow Zion to be destroyed then to rebuild it. The reason for this is because of anomalies - the 1% of humans that don't accept the Matrix. These are all brought out of the Matrix program and into the Zion program by the "Morpheus" program and other similar "ship captain" programs. Then once all the anomalies are out of the Matrix (and in Zion), that is the time for Zion to be destroyed, thus killing all the anomalies off. The Matrix is then upgraded, thus creating the next version of the Matrix, but Zion must be rebuilt so that the next lot of anomalies can be brought out again so that they can be destroyed. This is the feedback-loop, and is the reason to retain a handful of people so that Zion can be rebuilt. So this is why Neo said the prophecy was a lie - the One's purpose was not to end the war as the prophecy stated. Unfortunately, "The One" program must be re-used each time, or copied, so it can be "attached" to a new anomaly inside the Matrix. So what happens to the old "The One" program? It faces deletion, and as the Oracle explained, it goes into exile instead, just like the French bloke (the Merovingian) did. He was the first One (probably from the second version of the Matrix), and his duty, he became an exile program and "abdicated" his "Oneness" by choosing Persephone and power. This is evident in the bogs when Persephone asks Neo to kiss her. She says she wants him to kiss her so she can feel what it is like again to be kissed by something close to human, just like the Merovingian used to be. Then she says to Trinity that she envies her, but that these things are not meant to last. So the Merovingian used to be just like Neo - a One - thus proving further the feedback-loop explained earlier. The correct door in the Architect's room Now there are two possibilities here: 1. All the previous One's chose the right door allowing a "temporary dissemination" of their code into the Matrix (i.e., the code they "carry" thus indicating Neo is indeed human), then he must select (unplug) 23 people from the Matrix to rebuild Zion. This takes away the possibility that stories from previous rebuilds of Zion will be carried through. But Morpheus indicated in the first Matrix that this is the case anyway. He said, "there was a man born inside, able to change things, it was he who freed the first of us," - basically the One previous to Neo. And this proves that the previous One chose the right door also. Neo's purpose is also to choose the right door, but he does not because he faces deletion afterwards and has the choice of going into exile - programs choosing to go into exile is the one thing that can't be accounted for in program parameters. Thus, he chooses the left door instead this time. How was Neo able to choose the other door? Because of his extreme willpower? - Even the Architect indicated that he'd noticed this - "Interesting. That was quicker than the others." Or more likely, because the Oracle upgraded his coding with the candy on the park bench. The candy/cookie was a method to change the One's program. She said he has made a believer out of her - this is quite human-like and perhaps the previous One's didn't accept the upgrade candy, now she has hope... hope that Neo will finally choose the other door. 2. All the previous One's chose the left door, saving Trinity and letting Zion fall. So this time is no different. But the Architect does say, "You are here because Zion is about to be destroyed. Its every living inhabitant terminated, its entire existence eradicated," and also, "this will be the sixth time we have destroyed it, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it," - assuming the Architect isn't lying, then they have already destroyed Zion (i.e., Zion has fallen) five times - i.e., the result of going through the left door. Morpheus and Trinity are programs Morpheus's purpose was to find the One and deliver him to the Architect. Trinity's purpose is to control the One by getting in love with him. Trinity is supposed to be the mother of the new One every time the Matrix is Reloaded. That's why the sex scene was so important and why she was named Trinity. The Architect says, "she is going to die, and there is nothing that you can do to stop it." He was correct though because she did die just like Neo did in the first Matrix (Oracle said he or Morpheus would, and she didn't lie, but he came back to life). Trinity dies, but comes back to life (we are using medical definition of death in all this of course!). The Architect has already laid down an ultimatum for Neo choosing the Left door: The Architect - "Failure to comply with this process will result in a cataclysmic system crash killing everyone connected to the matrix, which coupled with the extermination of Zion will ultimately result in the extinction of the entire human race." Neo - "You won't let it happen, you can't. You need human beings to survive." The Architect - "There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept. However, the relevant issue is whether or not you are ready to accept the responsibility for the death of every human being in this world." Looking at this further, the Architect does say "coupled" with the extermination of Zion will the human race be exterminated. So he says everyone connected to the Matrix will die, but if Zion is not exterminated, the human race will not necessarily die. Also, there is likely to be a time-window between not going through the right door, and the cataclysmic crash, thus allowing Neo to unplug as many as possible from the Matrix, then those people won't die. This will be the start of the next Zion. As for the Matrix, a cataclysmic crash doesn't mean the end of the Matrix - just needs rebooting or reloading! Agent Smith explained Agent Smith is the only "human" in this world. He's the one spreading himself like a virus replicating himself over and over until the Matrix will finally get overloaded and fail. Smith is the one who wants to get out of the Matrix for good. He said so in the first Matrix, "I must get out of here, I must get free! And in this mind, is the key," squeezing Morpheus's temples, "my key! Once Zion is destroyed, there is no need for me to be here!" Smith knows that by killing Neo he can escape the Matrix because Neo is the key to resetting the Matrix, or to shut it off. It was originally killing Neo (in the first Matrix) that allowed Smith to become powerful (cloning ability) - so killing Neo again will allow him to gain Neo's powers completely, and thus gain the power to shut down the Matrix. So where the hell did Smith come from if he wants to destroy the Matrix? He's obviously not meant to be there - he's a computer virus as he has Every characteristic of a virus - he multiplies and spreads and infects and emulates) other programs like one. He is exactly as he described humans at the end of the first Matrix - "You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus." But who put him there? This will only be revealed in Revolutions (Revelations?) I guess - but I'm betting on humans in the real real world, i.e., outside of Zion and the Matrix. They're at war with the machines and trying to destroy them by infecting them with this virus - Agent Smith. So the irony with this theory is that Agent Smith represents the human race!! Neo represents the machines! Agent Smith says to Neo just after he's seen the Oracle that he became free when Neo destroyed him in the first Matrix remember when Neo entered his body and exploded him from inside out)* as a virus, Smith has the ability to "inherit" other programs' abilities and thus inherited some of Neo's. The anomaly explained The anomaly is all the humans that do not accept the Matrix. The Architect says "Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly, which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden to sedulously avoid it, it is not unexpected, and thus not beyond a measure of control." This includes Neo, but Neo's Matrix avatar is attached with the One program so that he can follow his purpose as explained earlier under "The One explained". However, he is also supposed to protect himself and destroy anything that gets in his way - i.e., Agent Smith - so that the may fulfil his purpose. Further proving Neo - and other non-accepters of the Matrix - are the anomaly, the Architect says, "Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the matrix." The clue here is Neo's program name - "The One". Take one-third for example. 1 over 3 is 0.33333 recurring. A computer Cannot deal with recurring numbers, so must accept a limit, let's say 0.33333 for argument's sake. Multiply by 3, you get 0.99999 - never 1.00000, where has the "remainder" 0.00001 (One) gone? This is the limitation of computers, this is the mathematical imprecision inherent in programming (of the Matrix) and the eventuality of the One anomaly unable to be eliminated. What is the equation then? Not sure, but it definitely involves pi. The Keymaker refers to the window of time to open the door to the mainframe as 314 seconds. 3.14 is pi to three sig. figs., or the number of radians in half a circle. Half a circle is like the cross-section of a womb, similar to the alcove Of Neo and Trinity's love scene - conceiving the next One? "NEO", incidentally, is an anagram of "ONE". Trinity and Neo - one on one; a choice - one or one. Leads us to 101. "101" is mentioned numerous times in Matrix 1 and Reloaded. Neo's room at the beginning, Merovingian is on the 101st floor, the 101 freeway of the car chase in Reloaded, then when Trinity is hacking into the power plant system, she resets the password to Z10N0101. Freaky. Indicates that she is a program because that's not some random password she's put in. 101 is binary for 5, which in zero-based binary counting: 000 is 1, 001, is 2, 010 is 3, 011 is 4, 100 is 5, 101 is 6 - And this is the 6th version of the Matrix! Then there's 303. 303 is the room Neo got shot in Matrix 1, the Oracle lives in room 303, it's also the hotel room number Trinity is in in Matrix 1 and it's seen at the end when Neo fights the Agents and Smith and begins to literally see the code that makes up the Matrix. 101 x 3 = 303, a trilogy, 3 * 0 + 3 = 6 = the 6th Matrix. Trinity means 3. Who is the "mother" that the Architect refers to? The Architect says, "Please," in an almost disapproving sense when Neo suggests the Oracle, but does not reveal who it really is or even directly that Neo is wrong. The architect was the one who created the Matrix; the co-creator is neither Persephone nor the Oracle. Both of them are only programs that have a purpose in the matrix, just like the rest. The Architect is in charge of the Matrix world and the co-creator is in charge of Zion. She has almost the same age as the Architect. Therefore, that woman is the Head Counsellor, the only woman of importance that lives in Zion and the one who asked for the two captains to volunteer at the council meeting. She's the one who knew all along about the Matrix. She was the one who told Zion's Defence Minister to cool off and to let Morpheus do his work so things could go as planned. Or alternatively, it could indeed be the Oracle. She is the only program that truly wants humans to have a free choice... at the same time, she sees the future, because she knows the program code - she is like God - which is why Seraph protects her - see "Who is Seraph?" below. What's so special about Neo's avatar? Neo is a skilled hacker, and his avatar in the Matrix is based on the person that founded the AI of the original machines that eventually took over the world... How? Take a look at the disc he gave to the bloke at the door at the beginning of Matrix 1. It said "DISC AI" on it. The hollowed book Neo takes the disc out of is "Simulacra and Simulation" - a collection of essays by the French postmodernist philosopher Jean Baudrillard. He opens it to the section "on Nihilism" (meaning nothing is truly known, etc.). "Baudrillard's concept of simulation is the creation of the real through conceptual or 'mythological' models which have no connection or origin in reality. The model becomes the determinant of our perception of reality-the real." And Morpheus says, "Welcome to the desert of the real," in Matrix 1. I'd say this book describes The Matrix to a tee. So this disc contains the key to the AI, and thus how to destroy the machines, so I think they'll use this info in Revolutions to ultimately destroy the machines, which means he'll have to go back to the nightclub and find the guy he gave it to. Who is Seraph? The reason Seraph (the Chinese guy Neo meets before meeting the Oracle) had golden code and was so spectacular is that he came from the first incarnation of the matrix, which was heaven. "Seraph" is singular for the plural "seraphim". The seraphim are the highest choir of angels and included amongst others: Lucifer, Gabriele, Raziel and Malaciah, and they sit on the 8th level of Heaven just one below God. So Seraph will obviously have a big part in Revolutions, but whose side will he be on - the machines or the humans?? That is the question. The Twins They are exiled programs that emulate the human myth of ghosts as the Oracle explained. They are programs behaving badly. Persephone killed one of the Merovingian's bodyguards with a silver bullet because he was emulating a werewolf. So if the Twins could phase into ghost form, why didn't he when his arm was trapped in the door of the garage? Was it because he was wounded or because he can't phase when his arm is trapped? No of course not. The doors of that building, when shut, always led somewhere else (usually in the mountains) when opened again without the Keymaker's key. So if it were slammed shut due to the Twin phasing into ghost form, the Twin's arm would've ended up god knows where, but certainly not attached to the Twin's body. By definition, no apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the Scriptural record. Of primary importance is the fact that evidence is always subject to interpretation by fallible people who do not possess all information. _______________ Joined 16 October 2004 | Retired 10 April 2005 | Returned 05 June 2008 | Made Staff 27 June 2008 | Made Council 18 January 2009 Padawan To Odan-Wei Belouve | Adopted into the Belouve family | Twin to xAnAtOs | Owner of the 4th Quesi sexy badge  Brother To Roan Belouve, Nomad, Majno, Silkmonkey, Kensei and Jarhok Belouve
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Mic Den Octela - Student 
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Ah, the things behind films... its almost... poetic... and not to mention trippy _______________ -Padawan of Virtue -Brother of Menaxia, *|irael, Krynn Adept, Majno, Ris Win Juljul, DaMi3N, Beowulf, Dash Starlight, Carrock and Yuken Zalak Bartender at Munes bar. Sir Mic of Nippledom! Proudly beating Wang, since '07. (Crackdown) |
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Quote: Agent Smith explained Agent Smith is the only "human" in this world. He's the one spreading himself like a virus replicating himself over and over until the Matrix will finally get overloaded and fail. Smith is the one who wants to get out of the Matrix for good. He said so in the first Matrix, "I must get out of here, I must get free! And in this mind, is the key," squeezing Morpheus's temples, "my key! Once Zion is destroyed, there is no need for me to be here!" Smith knows that by killing Neo he can escape the Matrix because Neo is the key to resetting the Matrix, or to shut it off. It was originally killing Neo (in the first Matrix) that allowed Smith to become powerful (cloning ability) - so killing Neo again will allow him to gain Neo's powers completely, and thus gain the power to shut down the Matrix. So where the hell did Smith come from if he wants to destroy the Matrix? He's obviously not meant to be there - he's a computer virus as he has Every characteristic of a virus - he multiplies and spreads and infects and emulates) other programs like one. He is exactly as he described humans at the end of the first Matrix - "You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus." But who put him there? This will only be revealed in Revolutions (Revelations?) I guess - but I'm betting on humans in the real real world, i.e., outside of Zion and the Matrix. They're at war with the machines and trying to destroy them by infecting them with this virus - Agent Smith. So the irony with this theory is that Agent Smith represents the human race!! Neo represents the machines! Agent Smith says to Neo just after he's seen the Oracle that he became free when Neo destroyed him in the first Matrix remember when Neo entered his body and exploded him from inside out)* as a virus, Smith has the ability to "inherit" other programs' abilities and thus inherited some of Neo's. Agent Smith's explanation is flawed in my opinion. Here's why: Smith himself said clearly that he felt compelled to disobey the order into exile or deletion after being defeated by Neo. This is not because he was a virus, but he has become a virus. Thanks to Neo. He says it himself: "Perhaps some part of you got transferred to me..." Neo is the program that actually disobeys every order given by the Matrix, yet the only difference is that Neo (the 6th One) is the one who disobeyed more orders by the Matrix itself. Perhaps by the candy, given to him by the Oracle. The "disobeying" part in Neo's code (which of course made him seem like a rebel) got transferred (or copied) to Smith's code, which allowed him to disobey, but he was an Agent, once. Kind of like the Ultimate Agent. Now, "The One" is a bug according to the Architect, yet I believe what this guide says about Neo. No argument there. But "The One" reoccurs every matrix, so it clones itself to every new version. This is what Smith is suddenly doing. Cloning, absorbing. A virus, perhaps, indeed. Now, about Seraph. He might come from the first matrix indeed, but there he was the One I think. Why? Because in Revolutions, he takes a look at Smith and says: "I've beaten you before." That's perhaps exactly what the One is supposed to do first. Defeat the Ultimate Agent, so the Rebels would believe in the One's powers, and extract every non-believer all of a sudden. (take a look at what Morpheus says to the commanding officer of Zion, following his arrest: "We've been able to free more people than we have ever before" I think this is an ensurance that they get all (or most) non-believers to be exterminated. This seems like a plausible theory. Indeed, Morpheus seems like a program to me. he knows too much. He was sure of Neo being the One, without having any reason, he was the one who dared to fight Smith, and did not get killed. He also believes too much, in my opinion. He never doubts the Prophecy even once. Trinity, being a program, perhaps indeed. That would take it that Persephone might have been a Trinity once too. And after the task was done by the Merovingian, he was allowed to take a role inside the Matrix and he chose the "Relayer of Information" as he says himself, and chose Persephone to be his bride. Now, why did the Machines agree for Neo to take on Smith to save the Matrix, even though Neo had chosen the wrong door and had eliminated everyone in the Matrix. Why did they care? I think it was because the matrix is their own programming in a way. The machines are outside, and inside their head, they are inside the matrix. Their programming is the Matrix-code. That's why Smith was a threat, because he was taking them over. "Soon he will spread the real world, as he has spread through the Matrix" said by Neo to the Machines. Perhaps very true. If Smith (the virus) would gain control of the machines, he could start his own world. Yet, Neo couldn't defeat him, and he merged with Smith for him to be beaten. Why? I only have one theory for this one, and it isn't easy. I think the matrix is rebooted every time, with a newer version that is uploaded to the Machine's interface. It is rebooted every time the One has completed his task, like he said. But I think that older programs (such as Smith) are automatically deleted so the newer ones can take place. Case in point: remember the dark and grimmy world in which Neo fought Smith, and look at the image after Neo's death, you see the Sun rising, the Oracle on a bench, and the world has returned to normal. That's perhaps because this is the new version, in which only the programs now live. _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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*get's a headacke* _______________ -Nero Quote: Curious, Smartass, what else? |
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Raziel Anjelis - Student 
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Don't forget that the twin's objective was to get the Keymaker. Twin One put his arm in between the door and the wall, so, like you said, when they opened it it would not phase into a completely different area. Which would defeat the objective of chasing them in the first place. _______________ Proud owner of El Vee For's 200th Comment, and Wicek's 2600th comment DaMi3N's 400th, Trad Redav's 666th.
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Plo Koon - Student 
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ummm didnt all the previus "ones" not have a "trinity" like neo had, all the others chose the most logical, save the people but this time with neo there was trinity and the love was to great so he chose to save her.... *spoiler* He does save her but she does die sadly at the very end  _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too This comment was edited by Plo Koon on Dec 10 2004 08:25pm. |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Great read, explained a lot to me (though, quite a while since I've seen any of the Matrix films). |
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Gradius - Ex-Student 
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Ack, sorry about the spoiler then tarpman. I figured the movie has been out for about a year now, so most people have had a chance to see it. That's the only reason I started talking about Revolutions. Sorry again. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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Garos - Student 
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Meh I think the first Matrix film is one of the best movies I've ever seen. It's great! But Reloaded and Revolutions almost ruin it for me. if not that, they water down the experience. |
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Garos - Student 
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Meh I think the first Matrix film is one of the best movies I've ever seen. It's great! But Reloaded and Revolutions almost ruin it for me. if not that, the water down the experience. |
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tarpman - The Tarped Avenger 
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Wow, GJ! Haven't seen Revolutions (Revelations  ) yet, but it all looks like it makes sense...  _______________ Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time. |
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Buzz - Student 
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That makes sense Gradius. Its like using equations and cells on microsoft excel. If you have a bunch of equations referenced in line and you end up screwing something up that references the cell you are using you can't complete the equation. Since Smith overwrites Neo, that portion of his coding deletes, rendering the rest of him useless and destroying him. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Gradius - Ex-Student 
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Well, the way I saw it was, Smith had become powerful because part of Neo had written into his programming after Neo killed Smith in the first movie. Smith explains that he felt "compelled to disobey." Meaning, he had gained human traits which allowed him to stay in the Matrix. Neo had transfered some of his power to Smith as well. He wasn't nearly as powerful as Neo until he took over the Oracle's body, where he then gained her power. But the only reason Smith stayed alive was because Neo's code was still part of him. So when he copied himself onto Neo, he basically deleted Neo's code which in turn killed Smith. It's a bit confusing in my opinion, but that's just how I saw it. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider This comment was edited by Gradius on Dec 10 2004 04:49am. |
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Fire - Student 
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I thought that was an extremely great read! It sort of made sense. Of course, as Gradius said, this person had not seen Revolutions, so that had left out a lot of unanswered questions. But wow, some of these things, amazing research/thinking/paying attention. Although, I always believed that the Matrix was something of an equilibrium. No matter what exactly happened, there must always be balance on one side of the equation with the other. Take Agent Smith for example, I believe that the reason he was able to transform into so many of himselves, was because the Matrix was trying to balance itself out. Neo had grown so incredibly powerful, that there had to be something on the other side of that equation. In Teh Matrix Revolutions, we learn that Smith has made the Oracle into one of "him". This would ruin the entire equation because the Smith that has the Oracle, is as or more powerful than Neo. If this were so, why were there still so many more Smiths around him? Wouldn't that cause a huge inbalance in the equation? I don't think so, later, when Neo had supposedly been defeated and turned into one of the Smiths, they all exploded. I believe that this was because the equation had to balance itself out, Smith had become far too powerful, so they all blew up. Thus, the equilibrium had once again been perfected. |
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Gradius - Ex-Student
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Well, some of this stuff is explained alright. I agree with alot of it. However, the person who wrote it never saw Revolutions, so alot of things he/she talked about were incomplete at the time. Such as how they explain Angent Smith, and how they explain Zion being just another Matrix. And the Merovingian being the first or second One, well, it's possible but can't be concluded from any of the movies. How the person explains Neo being able to use his powers outside of the Matrix is flawed. They think that Zion and the machine city are just another Matrix, and the war is actually happening in another world on top of that. Well, like I said, it's possible but can't be concluded from any of the films. I mean, in the third one there are parts where you can see the "real world" coded like the Matrix, and Neo has this ability too once he loses his sight. And the fact that he can control the other machines just by thinking it makes you wonder if the "real world" is indeed another Matrix. But I believe there is another explination for that. All in all, there is no correct explination for these three movies. I saw a tv show dedicated to the making of the trilogy, in which the writers and director clearly stated that these movies were made for everyone to interpret in their own way. Everything was meant to symbolize something else in our humanity, and how you understand it is based on who you are, what you know, and what you've experienced. The trilogy was never meant to be taken literally. Whatever you think the Matrix is, is right. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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