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Obesity lawsuit resurrected
Jan 27 2005 08:10am

JavaGuy
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Feb 02 2005 10:22am

JavaGuy
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 JavaGuy

What's your point exactly? You're disputing that food is plentiful and affordable?


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Feb 02 2005 09:12am

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Historically the problem has been that people do not have enough food. In America today food is plentiful and affordable to everyone. Almost every week you can see some magazine article bemoaning the fact that poor people in America are more likely to be fat. Excuse me? Poor people are fat? Then they're not poor! Next we'll be hearing that poor people have too much money.


check out the price of 95% lean ground chuck vs 80% lean ground chuck next time you're at the grocery store.

am i going to buy the 100% juice Juicy Juice for my kids that cost $4 for a gallon, or buy the purple high fructose corn syrup water for $.50 a gallon. hmmm...

come on JG you're smarter than that, follow the issue with your brain not your heart ;)
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Feb 02 2005 08:30am

Ashyr
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Yay! I'm not the only one who thinks Micheal Moore is a yammering ignoramous! :D

Anyway, funny stuff. I love it when people always try to blame other people for their problems.
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Feb 02 2005 01:00am

JavaGuy
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 JavaGuy

What exactly is "not true?"

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Feb 01 2005 10:01pm

Aayla Secura
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No true, well not here In England it costs more to buy healthy prepared food, whereas you don’t have to pay as much for fast food, hence the name hence why ppl eat it, that and the fact its packed with loads of sugar…

But I don’t think its right to sue for your own lack of control

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Feb 01 2005 06:19pm

JavaGuy
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Actually, if you were Michael Moore, you'd have interviewed someone from McDonald's, asked several questions and then creatively edited the film to make it look like his answers were something completely different. A la Farenheit 911.

But back to obesity...Does anybody seriously think that McDonald's is to blame for somebody being fat? A fat guy knows he's fat. He knows fast food isn't the solution to this problem.

Historically the problem has been that people do not have enough food. In America today food is plentiful and affordable to everyone. Almost every week you can see some magazine article bemoaning the fact that poor people in America are more likely to be fat. Excuse me? Poor people are fat? Then they're not poor! Next we'll be hearing that poor people have too much money.
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Feb 01 2005 04:36pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

That's right, and if I were making a documentary on the subject all I would have said was democrats blocked the legislation to stop obesity lawsuits. Since that's a fact and the only real hard fact, and it won't lead anyone to influence one way or another.

But since I'm not making a documentary: Trial lawyers stand to make a lot of money off of obesity lawsuits, and trial lawyers are big donators of the democrats. Those are both facts as well but not as pertinent to the obesity lawsuits. Now because of this other information, you could assume that the democrats were stopping the legislation to make them illegal because they want to get their money from the lawsuits as well.

Now if I were Michael Moore, or the guy from Super-size Me, I would have just said that the Democrats blocked the legislation because they would get money from the lawsuits. And then give the "facts" to this. That's the method: fact, fact, fact given to people. And then with the facts given: Big twist of the facts to suit the purpose. Its not a real lie because its based on factual information, but since its presented as fact, that makes it a lie.

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Feb 01 2005 03:54pm

JavaGuy
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 JavaGuy

Vaughn,
You need to look up the meaning of "ad hominem."

Buzz did cite a specific example of how the Democrats are at fault for this. They blocked legislation that would have prevented it. Case closed.
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Feb 01 2005 06:00am

Vaughn
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 Vaughn

whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA!!!

Stop with the Ad Hominem people! Until you provide facutal EVIDENCE that its someone's fault, dont be blaming people! wow. how many philosophers are in the house? (seriously)

PS: logic fallacies!
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Jan 31 2005 05:29pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

No no no that's not how he was responsible for the tsunami's, it was joint nuclear testing by the U.S. India and Israel to kill off the muslim population in the area.

Some guy in Thailand who warned of the possibility of a tsunami and was kicked out of his job recently got a job given to him by the President of Thailand since he was proven right. One of the things he went on to do right away was to say how it was the U.S.'s fault for so many people dying since we didn't give a warning or have a system.

And how this relates? Well its finding someone else to blame. Its not the countries around the indian ocean who were at fault for not having a warning system, its the United States' fault. Its not your fault you eat 5 Big Mac's everyday its McDonald's fault for selling them to you.
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Jan 31 2005 05:18pm

 
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Did you know that Bush was responsible for the tsunami disaster? Oh yeah, he's responsible for it! The greenhouse emissions in the USA caused it! Oh yeah! Really! Even though it was caused by an EARTHQUAKE.

Let's not forget that the damage the entire human race does to the ozone layer every year is about the same as the damage that's caused by volcanic gasses every day. :P

Jan 31 2005 05:05pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

Information on Michael Moore's manipulation and deceits.
http://moorewatch.com/index.php/weblog/f911
http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm
http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html
http://bowlingfortruth.com/

Trust me Moore is full of it. He even lies about where he's from. Claiming he's from Flint Michigan which is basically low to middle class. He's actually from the suburb of Davison which is upper middle class and no where near as diverse as Flint.

I'm not blaming the democrats for everything. That would make me no better than them since that's their tactic. I just pointed out that they were the ones who didn't want to make these types of lawsuits illegal, and that if these were to take place and to win money then trial lawyers stand to make a lot of money. And trial lawyers are usually bigger givers for the democrats.

The judge who reopened the case was likely a liberal judge as well. That's not saying conservative judges don't make stupid rulings as well.

Oh and if its raining, it wouldn't be the democrats fault since its likely the result of global warming. So that would be Bush's fault since we all know global warming didn't start untill he took office.
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Jan 31 2005 08:11am

Aayla Secura
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Yeah democrats fault.

Look it’s raining; DEMOCRATS FAULT!!!!

And Michael Moore doesn’t manipulate anything all he did is show interesting and reoccurring events, obviously there was going to have his slant, but you can’t dismiss the entire film because just like another documentary it has its own slant, in that case you may as well not read or listen or hear anything again.
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This comment was edited by Aayla Secura on Jan 31 2005 08:11am.

Jan 30 2005 05:03pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

Super Size Me isn't a documentary. Its a Michael Moore type film where the director manipulates and twists facts and information to make it look like he's right.

McDonald's isn't shoving hamburgers down anyone's throat or encouraging them to eat there 3 times a day every day of the week. I remember last year when a bunch of Republicans wanted to make a law to for these lawsuits against fast food to not be allowed. And a bunch of Democrats were saying "hey we don't need it they're being thrown out of court now so we don't need a law." And I said then that theirs always the chance some judge won't throw it out, looks like I was right. And don't forget that one of the biggest sets of contributors to the Democrat party are trial lawyers, the group who would stand to get a lot of money if they represent some tub o'lard who couldn't make his own food and win the case. You think people drool over the fast food, these guys are drooling over the chance for money.
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Jan 30 2005 11:28am

Aayla Secura
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 Aayla Secura

What’s the best though is; if they do win and fast food is some how controlled, people will start complaining that the government is controlling their lives… amuses me greatly.
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Jan 29 2005 06:43pm

Roan Belouve
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I hate this "it's not my fault" culture we live in.

TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOU OWN ACTIONS FATTIES AND LAWYERS GO PROTECT THE INNOCENT!!

LMAO at Sared's link.

/me is off to Maccy D's
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Jan 29 2005 05:40pm

Bubu
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 Bubu

I recommend the movie Super Size Me

Very funny in a serious sort of way.
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Jan 28 2005 07:25pm

CuZzA
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 CuZzA

rofl my waffle
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Jan 28 2005 05:19pm

Sared
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Dude, WTF? Sued the grocery store?

BTW this is some funny junk. :)
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Jan 28 2005 04:01pm

Iceman - away-
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To continue it, what we have here is the guy who dumped sugar into his gas tank wanting to sue the grocer who sold him the sugar.


Ok...:eek:

Jan 28 2005 02:35pm

JavaGuy
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 JavaGuy

That's a good analogy.

To continue it, what we have here is the guy who dumped sugar into his gas tank wanting to sue the grocer who sold him the sugar.
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Jan 28 2005 05:24am

Plo Koon
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People need to acquire some self control; rather than fast food...



Yes they certainly do, their doing it and not Excersizing to stay healthy.


lets say you own a high-performance racecar propelled by a state-of-the art, technologically advanced superior engine. To run at it's absolute optimum, it needs jet fuel designed by the most brilliant minds at NASA.

Today you plan to race your car, but instead of filling it with that high-tech jet fuel, you dump a couple scoops of sugar in the tank, a whole lot of hamburger grease, fat, a handful of salt and a 64-ounce cup of soda pop.

No one would do that to their personal car, although a vandal might to criminaly destroy the inner workings of your car, but sadly millions of people are vandalizing their bodies by dumping toxic substances into their body. All of that garbage goes in their hardworking bloodstreams, muscles, joints, cartilage, lungs, brains and all the little parts.


its a shame.
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This comment was edited by Plo Koon on Jan 28 2005 05:30am.

Jan 28 2005 04:13am

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Jan 27 2005 05:21pm

Aayla Secura
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People need to acquire some self control; rather than fast food...
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Jan 27 2005 10:16am

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allow me to quote Lazy Boy:

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Americans, let’s face it:
We’ve been a spoiled country for a long time.
Do you know what the number one health risk in America is?
Obesity. They say we’re in the middle of an obesity epidemic.
An epidemic like it is polio.
Like we’ll be telling our grand kids about it one day.
The Great Obesity Epidemic of 2004.
“How’d you get through it grandpa?”
“Oh, it was horrible Johnny,
there was cheesecake and pork chops everywhere.”

Nobody knows why were getting fatter? Look at our lifestyle.
I’ll sit at a drive thru.
I’ll sit there behind fifteen other cars instead of getting up to make the eight foot walk to the totally empty counter.
Everything is mega meal, super sized.
Want biggie fries, super sized, want to go large.
You want to have thirty burgers for a nickel
you fat mother fucker. There’s room in the back. Take it!
Want a 55 gallon drum of Coke with that?
It’s only three more cents.



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