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Battlin' Billy - Student  |
What's everyone's feelings about these? When I 1st heard about them, I was very anti-Napster. Maybe being a musician, I saw it as the artists getting ripped off. After a little more consideration, I realized that it's not usually the artist getting ripped off, its the record companies. That fact alone changed my mind. When they start releasing albums that I would actually go out and buy with more than 1-2 good songs, then OK. In some cases, I've downloaded a few songs from an artist, and bcuz of that I went and bought the album.
Any thoughts? Comments? _______________ Midbie Council Member #2 - Profile ID 2073 | Member of B@rtM@ulS@ar | Owner of Monty's 2000th comment & D@RtHM@UL's 8100th comment | Former Padawan of SilkMonkey & Arcuss JA Goaltender & NHL Fan | Fellow Rush fan to Axion|Plo Koon is my oldest JA friend Post your RL pics HERE! | Post you JK2/JK3 screenies HERE! |
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Trebizond - Ex-Student 
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I think they're great, particularly because you can get hold of single songs that you like from people that you can't get hold of the album (I'm thinking quite rare reggae and dub here. . . just can't get it here 
The only thing I will say is that although I've downloaded games, music and films from Kazaa, I still have a little soft spot for the real thing. Its nice to have something tangible when you come home from shopping. :p As for all the security concerns, don't worry. As soon as the government or big business tries to stop people doing something, it takes about, oooh, fifteen seconds for some Russian programmer to find a way round it. Power to the people! Treb _______________ "He asked us 'Be you angels?' and we said 'Nay! We are but Men!'" |
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Mune - Student 
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I've used P2P for a while. Most of the eighties you find in stores contain 8 songs I don't like, 3 I do like, and one I don't mind. I download video game music too, which you can't hardly find in America anymore. Kazaa is excellent.
Ever notice how there's a Stairway to Heaven,but a Highway to Hell?  Rock on! _______________ Captain Barkeep. |
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MINDofSIN - Student 
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I downloaded JK2's single player from KaZaA Lite before I bought the game.
Without P2P programs, I probably wouldn't be "here" today . _______________ Jedi Academy Holocron http://jaholocron.ryanmh.com/ Why should our government send our soldiers to foreign soil to protect freedom of speech, when our freedom of speech is being taking away everyday by the same government. |
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i am a mixed bag, i have over 500 CDs of games and music, only 50 or so are ones that i haven't payed a cent (not including the cost of the CD, though i don't buy them someoen else does..) for, and you know what? i don't play those 50 CDs, i DLed the Games as a demo to see if it was worth my money, if it was i went out and bought the game, if it wasn't, well, i don't play it. and the demos are so few and rearely give you a good idea anympore taht it is the only way sometimes, same with my music, i find if i want it and then might buy the CD but i am not buying a 20+ buck CD for one or two songs i want, the record companies need to combine together and then take orders of CDS that are personalized like peopel send in their Playlist form Many differeant Artists and such, and i am sure peopel will be willing to pay more money for it. _______________ Midbie Council Member #13 Padawan of SilkMonkey Stuntman extraordinaire |
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Kalheka - Student 
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Well what the record labels really want is control. They know that if they can choke off the free p2p's that they can make money off it. _______________ Death is only the beginning. |
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Bubu - Hubbub 
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i'm a hardcore kazza user... but if i find something i really like, i go out and buy it. those companies complaining about getting 2.5 billion instead of 3.5 claim it's becoz of P2P. i say: BAH! it has been shown that P2P programs have actually INCREASED music sales. what is at the root of their loss, is the crap they are selling! _______________ make install -not war |
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Battlin' Billy - Student 
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No worries BizNatch, it's still kinda on the subject.
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SirBizNatch - Student 
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me too billy. even though i cryed the day i heard that Michael Jordan was retiring (im happy he came bac back), it pissed me off thta he complained about being gipped a few million dollars. even a taxed million dollars is alot. feelin the strain now, jordan arent ya?! cant live without that extra coupla millioin dollars!
sry for goin off topic. _______________ Personal body guard to teh 1337 Jacen Aratan! Midbie Council Memeber||Member of the Almighty FiZZsters |
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Battlin' Billy - Student
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Nicely said, DJ! I have trouble feeling bad for the record execs because they only made $2.5 billion this year instead of $3.5 billion bcuz of all these people downloading music. I feel the same way about pro athletes that complain about their salaries, but that's a whole different topic.
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DJ Sith - Jedi Council 
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I'm all for P2P. The big record companies won't get another single penny from me. The business model of selling a CD needs to change. No one wants to pay ~$18 for a piece of silicon with only a good song or 2 on it. Look at the DVD. These things cost upwards of $50 and no one bats an eye. Why? They feel they're getting their money's worth. A DVD is loaded with stuff. A CD isn't. If they charged maybe $10 for a CD then sure I'd buy a few.. or if they started selling singles again (and I don't mean the weirdo import singles ).
I buy all my CD's from the little record companies though. _______________ My car is made of Nerf. |
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Kalheka - Student
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P2P programs aren't illegal. _______________ Death is only the beginning. |
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Battlin' Billy - Student 
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In the US it's still legal. Besides, talking about it isn't illegal either.
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Fizz of Belouve - Student 
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I dont think its particularly smart to talk about these mainly illegal tools in a forum like this.
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Battlin' Billy - Student
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I'm not so concerned with how much they charge for a certain amount of data. I just want them to put out something that has some kind of quality, not just the crap that most albums contain these days!
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Icco - Student 
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i dl alot of stuff. i use a wide variety from napster(past tense) kazaa and limewire. i believe as long as the record companies dont get two greedy ten i wont dl music. but if they charge they same amount for a 4.7 Gb Dvd and a 8o0 mb cd than i say "record companies STFU!" _______________ "this is Icco. Icco is old. Icco is lost. Icco is cool, but Icco doesn't know what the meaning of 'macrophageal sex'." - Vaughn /Icco |
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Battlin' Billy - Student
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That's what I did when I 1st saw one of their videos!
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Kalheka - Student
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ROFLMAO!!! _______________ Death is only the beginning. |
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Battlin' Billy - Student
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That's true too. Case in point, Milli Vanilli! _______________ Midbie Council Member #2 - Profile ID 2073 | Member of B@rtM@ulS@ar | Owner of Monty's 2000th comment & D@RtHM@UL's 8100th comment | Former Padawan of SilkMonkey & Arcuss JA Goaltender & NHL Fan | Fellow Rush fan to Axion|Plo Koon is my oldest JA friend Post your RL pics HERE! | Post you JK2/JK3 screenies HERE! |
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Kalheka - Student
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All too often you find that the artists are put under pressure to just put up something, that's the fluff I'm talking about.
They have 3 or 4 good songs for the record, the rest is insulation or something. A great deal of that comes from record label management more than the artists themselves, though I'm certain a few of them are just stamping crap out in order to sell. _______________ Death is only the beginning. |
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Battlin' Billy - Student
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Very true! Part of the problem too is that some of the "artists" only make music to cash in. Very few people make music just to make music. It doesn't help either that most people don't understand the difference between good music and music that sells a lot of records. They cut out all the music programs in schools in favor of a football team or whatever.
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Kalheka - Student
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I don't really think it's old school to go out and buy the album of a band you like. The problem is that it doesn't seem like there is a good record to be purchased out there anymore. Record labels are screwing up the music business. _______________ Death is only the beginning. |
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Battlin' Billy - Student
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Maybe I'm from the old school, where if you liked a song you heard on the radio, you'd go out and but the album. Over the years, there have been fewer and fewer good albums. With the event of MTV, it's more important to look good than to actually have some talent. Now the record companies just pump out this crap that's been pretty much mass-produced. There's so many amazing bands out there that aren't signed bcuz their music doesn't sell. It's a crying shame.
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Kalheka - Student
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I'm all for em myself. I listen to a very wide variety of music, from Chopin to Anthrax. I am however picky about what makes it into my personal collection, and 98% of the time I don't want an entire album by any single artist.
I have other reasons also. I hate the record labels with a passion. They blame sagging record sales on P2P networks, while never looking at the fact that they have been putting out albums with much FLUFF on them. They also don't want to look at the fact that they charge too damn much for most of their stuff. As for stealing from artists, there is some of that going on admittedly. It's also true that many people go out and buy music that they first heard off P2P nets though too. It's got it's up's and down's both ways. What we should really be talking about is the alarming reaction of record labels and media companies of all kinds. They are going so far as to try to put technology inside your computer that can lock down the computer's content, taking away choices for both legal and illegal content. And I'm not just talking about here in America, but abroad also. _______________ Death is only the beginning. |
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Buzz - Student 
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I read an article that pointed something out. It was about the peer to peer music downloaders and the few pay downloaders where you pay a small fee to get songs you want. Those have their benefits such as not getting crap versions of the songs which most of you that use any of those other programs are sure to have gotten at least once. The article pointed out though how people would wonder why the Spider-man movie soundtrack costs more than the Spider-man DVD. And they wonder why people would rather get songs for free _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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