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Smilykrazy - Retired  |
Is downloading music legal or illegal? Heres some interesting info I saw.  http://www.allcoolmusic.com/legal.htm _______________ RIP MOM 06/29/58-07/31/08 Married to Koyi Donita 4/30/11 |
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SaZ - Student 
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hmm so every download is pirated... crap... even the official ftp server of my internet provider is illegal lol... only coz ppl share... :/ _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student 
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there was an interesting article published by german heise.de, that stated that most stuff, thats being pirated on the internet adds to the "products" popularity, and wide-spread, obviously. as with musicians, they dont really win anything directly. But like Soli stated, about 80% of musicians make money by merchandise, tours, concerts, etc.... and they actually GAIN profit indirectly thru pirated music. also about 35% of asked musicians stated they would like music downloads to be free. _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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SilkMonkey - Distributor of Cold Ones 
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I did my senior project on filesharing and copyright law. We focused on music specifically. The gist of it is, yes, the record labels are the ones who lose money directly from the albums. But most artists recording costs are taken from their own cuts of the profits coming in. Should they not sell enough to recover the costs, the label will either take their live show profits (which is where the artist typically makes ANY money) or sue them. _______________ |-HK-47 -SilkMonkey: You are receiving a warning for being_too_sexy. If you do not stop, action will be taken against you.|| (11:13:43) � Virtue dances for Silk ||Smiling owner of Smilykrazy's 6000th comment =) ||Odan Wei's Proud Big Brother|| Janus is my official TaruTaru Cuddly Animal Type Person. ||(@Virtue) Or you could just be a man and set fire to your genitals.....you won't fall asleep for days after that.......trust me.||Thomas Skywalker er for sexy for sitt eget beste!!!!| Not changing sig until the JA loosens up. (Started: Aug 31, 2005) |
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solitude - Jedi Council 
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SaZ - Student
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hmmm about those rights... its only if you seek profit right? _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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solitude - Jedi Council
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mucisians make most of their money from concerts. _______________ Joined 16 October 2004 | Retired 10 April 2005 | Returned 05 June 2008 | Made Staff 27 June 2008 | Made Council 18 January 2009 Padawan To Odan-Wei Belouve | Adopted into the Belouve family | Twin to xAnAtOs | Owner of the 4th Quesi sexy badge Brother To Roan Belouve, Nomad, Majno, Silkmonkey, Kensei and Jarhok Belouve
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Fizz of Belouve - Student 
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well JJ, you are musician yourself. If I were a pro musican, I wouldnt really give a darn, because they earn like 0.01$ per sold CD, while the record company (aka label) earns like 5$. nice ratio. _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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Trad Redav - Student 
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Quote: well you just bought a chair... you want to share it with others its YOUR chair... so you can do anything with it. The thing is, with music (and games) you're not buying to product itself, you're buying the right to listen to (or play) it. So, sure, that right is yours, and you can do whatever you want with that right (or perhaps 'liscence' is the better word) including give it to a friend-- but it's when you start spawning liscences (i.e. giving your friend the music for free) that problems start. With downloading music, there's less of a clear line, but it's not 'it's mine so i can do whatever with it' that applies. _______________ Well then. Just so you know, just because I don't post often doesn't mean I don't lurk this place multiple times every day... |
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Scythus Aratan - Student 
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If it wasn't so friggin expensive people wouldn't download it the whole time. Over here it's like £12 for an album... The new napster and iTunes stuff is a good start, but you need credit card details for that. _______________ Padawan to the great Jacen Aratan! <Setementor> Scythus is a genius! Claimer of the 5000th post in the Count thread [Solitude] scy rocks [Casual] good point scythus, you're really smart |
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Acey Spadey - Student 
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Quote: well you just bought a chair... you want to share it with others its YOUR chair... so you can do anything with it. one Example of buying a product and NOT owning it fully... Steam and Half Life 2. even after you have bought the game, you still need to log onto their servers to " authorise" and "unlock" the game so you can actually play it.. also your Log in with steam is locked to your cd-key so if you sell the game to a friend. You have to PAY steam to transfer the cd-key which is locked to your login, to his so that he can play. _______________ .Lag Bro to Xanatos. Adopted Twin to Bubu. Big-Brother to SmilyKrazy ---- JATSRAD Guru, JASE Member, JA SP Mod Staff ---- The Order of the Stick -- Big thanks to Mango for my avatar -- Quote: Sometimes you've got to specifically go out of your way to get into trouble. It's called fun.
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solitude - Jedi Council 
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Quote: Yeah, how dare we download music! We're stealing the artist's money! I mean, they might have to settle for a ferrari instead of a porsche!  its still theft they earned the money. they made the music and have the right to charge what they like for it. _______________ Joined 16 October 2004 | Retired 10 April 2005 | Returned 05 June 2008 | Made Staff 27 June 2008 | Made Council 18 January 2009 Padawan To Odan-Wei Belouve | Adopted into the Belouve family | Twin to xAnAtOs | Owner of the 4th Quesi sexy badge Brother To Roan Belouve, Nomad, Majno, Silkmonkey, Kensei and Jarhok Belouve
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Yeah, how dare we download music! We're stealing the artist's money! I mean, they might have to settle for a ferrari instead of a porsche! |
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SaZ - Student
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well you just bought a chair... you want to share it with others its YOUR chair... so you can do anything with it. here is my thought about music downloading and YES i download music but keep in mind that you cant find everything you need on shops  so... copying for profit is illegal. sharing for nothing is legal. sharing the stolen(hacked etc, this applies to software as well) music is illegal x2  blah  _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana This comment was edited by SaZ on Mar 15 2005 02:21pm. |
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Devlin - Student 
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The article made for an interesting read and confirms everything that I've heard in the past. You can DL music and other media so long as you do it legally. For example a lot of the mp3's I have on my comp I have ownership rights over becuase I also own the cd. I'm just to lazy to rip and mp3 from the cd's because it's often quicker to DL the song instead. Just be smart about what you're sharing and DL'ing and you shouldn't have anything to worry about _______________ Be at peace, and you will discover things you never dreamed possible. |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student
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masta smily knows them policy very well yeah, in fact theres a lot of misinformation about music that is to be downloaded. if its covered by the copyleft, then its all cool. Some german bands eg. have legally allowed people to copy their material. some popular sites are: http://www.vitaminic.com http://music.download.com _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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I thought discussing warez on JA forums was forbidden =/ Oh wait...does downloaded music count as "warez" too? Well, even if it doesnt...i can see where this thread will end at >_>'' _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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