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Online gamer murdered in dispute over virtual sword
Mar 30 2005 06:13am

JavaGuy
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MMORPG guys take their stuff seriously.


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Apr 11 2005 04:09am

Garos
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 Garos

Damn straight Sared

Apr 11 2005 03:23am

tarpman
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Not going to post my opinion because supporting things like capital punishment and opposite and equal reactions tends to annoy people.
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Apr 10 2005 09:10pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
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 NotSoLittleCaesar

-sigh- sopme take it way to seriously :\
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Apr 10 2005 10:45am

Evil Squirrel
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 Evil Squirrel

/me kills half the worlds population

"DOH, my sword must be owned by someone in the other half" :(

*kills other half*

"doop, it's here in my invintory" :eek:

but really, who the **** is crazy enough to kill someone over a virtual game (other then 3/4's of my friends who are addicted to world of warcraft)... wait, he stole a sword? THE *end message due to bad language* :P
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Apr 10 2005 09:50am

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:alliance:Yeah I remember back in the days of Diablo II version 1.09 when I finally got desperate enough to spend 30.00 on an ITH bow and within a few weeks everyone had them I wanted to wreck up some peoples faces but man i wouldnt go THAT far lol
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Apr 08 2005 02:13am

Refl3x
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 Refl3x

wow thats going a little too far with a game. To take someones life over a virtual piece of memory is completely crazy.
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This comment was edited by Refl3x on Apr 08 2005 02:18am.

Apr 07 2005 11:07pm

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Apr 02 2005 02:48pm

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:alliance: They outta recruit these insane/hardcore gamers for the military lol. Hell you play UT:2004 or MOHAA your bound to develop good aiming skills. It's sad some people take games THAT seriously. No way would I kill someone if they like jacked some old rusty sword I found playing Diablo2 back in the day.:alliance:
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Apr 02 2005 08:13am

Rahn del Sol
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 Rahn del Sol

Bad things happen when gamers go outside. :D

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This comment was edited by Rahn del Sol on Apr 02 2005 08:14am.

Apr 01 2005 02:27am

Janus
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 Janus

Yeah, I've heard some crazy stuff with mmorpgs all the way back to Dragonrealms (straight text-based game). Some people let themselves get completely saturated with the games they play, so much as that it ruins their life and others lives as well. But, to argue a counterpoint, I've played plenty of MMORPGS, I've played Dragonrealms, Everquest, FFXI, CityofHeroes, and now I play Everquest 2. I know how they can be addicting (Just one more level!), but I also know a balance between game life and real life needs to be established. It's all about control, and the lack thereof of the folks in the article.
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Mar 31 2005 05:30pm

Plo Koon
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Well I play or played a few MMORPG's and they're fun, but I have an outside life :P. this guy was a nutcase, a total looney toon!. so not all mmorpg guy"s" are like that,just him :P
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This comment was edited by Plo Koon on Mar 31 2005 09:39pm.

Mar 31 2005 04:23pm

thewind
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Oh man, that's not good. *Windy shuts down his computer and goes to listen to Avril lavigine*

Mar 31 2005 04:19pm

JavaGuy
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The police even coined a term over there, offline pk.


Brilliant! It also shows that the police are conducting serious investigations, learning something about the online community that they've adopted some of the lingo.
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Mar 31 2005 12:43am

Tallepyon
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 Tallepyon

I have heard of many similar incidents happening in one of the koreas. I read about it a few years ago in a pcgamer. The police even coined a term over there, offline pk.

Mar 30 2005 10:06pm

Vasper Ba'xian
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OMG! All u Game addicts read the following

GAMER NOTICE:

Slowing take your hand of the mouse and keyboard. Now, seeing how you haven't showered in 4 days or shaved even longer, clean yourself up. Now look out your window. YEAH THATS CALLED SUNLIGHT! TRY IT!

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Mar 30 2005 09:56pm

JavaGuy
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Well, the victim did wrong the guy who killed him within the game. To be sure: He borrowed a piece of digital property and sold it. There are lots of kinds of property, and not everything is a physical widget. I "own" the copyright on my writing (except what I write for my employer). Many kinds of ownership have more to do with rights, e.g. I own my house and the land it sits on, and while I can't stick it in my pocket and carry it around, I do have an exclusive right to use it. An MMO player pays for a service and has a certain right to expect that service to be provided.

But to be sure: It's a role-playing game. They are playing characters. If one character borrowed something from the other and never gave it back, his character is stealing within the context of the game-world. In some MMORPGs players can kill one another's characters, so gimme a break. That he sold it for real-world money adds an interesting twist but does not change the fact that he is role-playing the part of a thief in the game world, and the appropriate punishment should be dished out to his character by the game-world constable (or the character who got robbed can get together a posse and go for frontier justice). One has to distinguish between what the player owns--the right to play his character in the game world and to have that character persist on the servers as long as he pays the fee--and what the player's character owns, which in many game worlds may be protected on by the kind of wild-west "justice" that exists in many fantasy worlds.

That somebody was willing to commit murder over this, of course, suggests a truly sick mind.


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Mar 30 2005 08:12pm

BaNaNa PwN
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Games are just a simulation of reality, it would be beyond ridiculous to apply the laws of the real world to in-game transactions. The bottom line is that the victim got the better of the defendant in a game, the guy got pissed and killed him. No different than if someone lost at virtual poker (which uses real money), got pissed and killed the other player. It's a game, and they were foolish enough to bet real money on it.
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Mar 30 2005 07:57pm

Matej
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This is just sick.
Taking a game so seriously to buy (EDIT: with real money) weapons in it is nonsense.

This comment was edited by Matej on Mar 30 2005 07:57pm.

Mar 30 2005 06:26pm

Sared
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Quote:
"The armours and swords in games should be deemed as private property as players have to spend money and time on them," said Wang Zongyu, an associate professor at the law school of Beijing's Renmin University of China.


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"The 'assets' of one player mean nothing to others as they are by nature just data created by game providers," said a spokesman from a Shanghai-based Internet game company.


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Mar 30 2005 06:26pm

DJK
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 DJK

Woah...Thats sick.

Mar 30 2005 02:48pm

Bubu
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 Bubu

Here it is
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Mar 30 2005 02:38pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

copy paste? O_o
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Mar 30 2005 02:10pm

JavaGuy
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 JavaGuy

It comes up for me. I didn't have to sign up or anything.

I'll do a little Googling and see if I can find an AP or other release of the same story elsewhere, because this one's a classic.
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Mar 30 2005 06:29am

Ashyr
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 Ashyr

Yeah it's a members only area.
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Mar 30 2005 06:16am

xAnAtOs
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I don't think you can read this unless you are a member of Sydney Morning Herald.
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