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Trooper! - Student  |
How much electricity do you think was in the Emperor's bolts ? I mean he was hitting Luke for a pretty long time. Now I've been shocked by 110V before and it wasn't that bad. Being an Electrical Technician I must have been hit at least 30 times. But some people have been hit by 220V or 110V and died instantly. Granted, air is the worst dielectric so the watts must have been low but Luke never died and his hair didnt even stand up ! Yet it was still enough to short circuit Vader's life support. _______________ Honor those better than you would yourself. |
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Seth C. Belouve - Student 
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When it comes to electricity I tend to believe Blademaster has it nailed on the head, BUT I tend to agree with the comments about how the electricity is simply a vessel in which pain causing dark forces is transported in. I like to believe that the lightning is simply for terrifying effect. For all we know the dark force energy being thrown at the Jedi could come in the form of rabbit poop, but thats not scary...just gross. So I like to believe and will continue believing that its just dark force energy appearing to be lightning. _______________ Look unto me for I possess the blue flag!! It is more beautiful then I ever imagined! You will now worship me as if I were a god! *smack, dies* I regret nothing, I lived as few men dared dream!! Red Guy from Red Vs. Blue Series |
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Blademaster - Student 
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What is pain? Pain is your nerve endings being stimulated and sending impulses to your brain that say, "This old geezer is about to kill me." Nerve endings are stimulated by electricity and the impulses that flow from these endings are also electrically-based. Thus, Force Lightning is an electrical attack. The Lightning stimulates the nerve endings across a body, the stimulated nerves transmit "pain" signals to your brain. _______________ Let's race. You, me, and 5 kilometers of ground. The only question is: Do you feel fast today? |
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Master Bandon - Student 
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that was a very nice point and speech...but as i have said twice, you cannot compare Force Lightning to actual lightning. actual lightning posseses everything mentioned here, Force Lightning contains no volts or amps, it is pure energy/power which surges through your body causing pain. _______________ A Jedi shall not know Anger...nor Hate...nor Love. -Jedi Master Bandon 
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Nero - Student 
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Quote: Volts = how "fast" the electricity travels. Amps = the "power" of the traveling electricity. It's the other way around but that's pretty much it yes  Being shocked neither Volts or Amps define the power of the shock, it's the combination. The Physical formula would be: P = I x U. With P as power in Watts, I as amps and U as volts.The P is what kills and as you see it doesn't matter how many volts or amps there are it's what they combined get, 0.5 amps with 3 volts is just the same as 1.5 amps with 1 volt Wether Luke should die, doesn't he have the uber force protection thing going on? ps: Volts is the amount of Joule traveling per Coulomb, one Coulomb contains a certain amount of elektrons (if you know how electricity works you should kinda understand this  )The amps are the amount of coulombs traveling per second. _______________ -Nero Quote: Curious, Smartass, what else? This comment was edited by Nero on Apr 28 2005 06:56pm. |
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Ecks - Student 
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I dunno... maybe Luke's conditioning was good enough to withstand it long enough?  Probably, the lightning wasn't that strong, it's just that it was maintained for so long. If you had about 110V coursing through you, you could survive, but if it was focused at you and held there for like a minute... it'd hurt. You would probably feel it the next morning... and the next morning a month later  _______________ "To become a greater man, you must be a lesser one first." |
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Master Bandon - Student 
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like I said before, the force lightning does not coincide with real-time lightning(volts, watts, and joules, etc.) _______________ A Jedi shall not know Anger...nor Hate...nor Love. -Jedi Master Bandon
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Blademaster - Student 
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Let's clear up this issue with a look-see at what the official Jedi Knight Database classifies Force Lightning as... Quote: Allows the player to hurl a devastating electrical attack against foes. When a foe is targeted by this power, it locks on and continues to drain the enemy and consume the attacker's Force Pool. This continues until the enemy perishes, goes out of range, or the player's Force Pool is depleted. Emperor Palpatine famously used this attack against Luke Skywalker, and Darth Vader just before his own demise on board the Second Death Star. Alas, electricity. Electricity is measured in joules, and the debate returns to how many joules are in Force Lightning. One last thing, every other natural law found in physics, chemistry, and general science applies in the Star Wars Universe (gravity, for example). With this in mind it's not hard to imagine the natural laws for electricity apply as well. _______________ Let's race. You, me, and 5 kilometers of ground. The only question is: Do you feel fast today? |
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Dunn'Canni - Student 
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Well, is Star Wars based on the same chemistry, physics and biology as our universe? I doubt it, given the aliens and the technology, so I guess that anything is possible. As Bandon said, you have to see lightning as special Force Lightning and not the electricity we know. _______________ "There is no emotion... there is peace. There is no ignorance... there is knowledge. There is no passion... there is serenity. There is no chaos... there is harmony. There is no death... there is the Force." -Master Zhar Lestin |
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Master Bandon - Student
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why are you talking about real lightning? in SW vader is attacked by FORCE LIGHTNING not many people can shoot lightning bolts from their hands, it's merely a force "bolt" so to speak, it doesn't contain the potential energy of real lightning, it's simply used to injure people, not to throw electrical currents through his/her body, that's why the lightning did nothing to luke's hair and that's why he took it for so long, the force lightning made to bring forth a long, painful, grueling death. _______________ A Jedi shall not know Anger...nor Hate...nor Love. -Jedi Master Bandon
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Scythus Aratan - Student 
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I'd like to point out that one of these 3v batteries has an amperage of 5 amps. _______________ Padawan to the great Jacen Aratan! <Setementor> Scythus is a genius! Claimer of the 5000th post in the Count thread [Solitude] scy rocks [Casual] good point scythus, you're really smart |
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student 
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Quote: That's irrelevant, amps and volts are completely different things. Actually it's not irrelevant because i said 1 am can stop a human heart but a human can take a 500k volt jolt, which in my opinion, pretty much says they are different lol. _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
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Blademaster - Student
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Wait a moment, some first semester Chemistry is coming back to me. When we're talking about killing power, the volts of electricity doesn't matter, it's the amount of Amps that determines the extent of the injury. Volts = how "fast" the electricity travels. Amps = the "power" of the traveling electricity. It takes about 50 joules (the measurement of Amps) to kill an average human. So I'll guess that Dark Side Lightning has about 40-45 joules of stopping power. The only factor I can't measure would be the Force power of the Jedi on the receiving end. I'll guess that a high-level Jedi might be able to shrug off more joules than a low-level one. _______________ Let's race. You, me, and 5 kilometers of ground. The only question is: Do you feel fast today? |
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Aiddat - Student 
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No because Absorb only blocks Force powers. I said real electicity. _______________ -Aiddat, the Gran with the green blades. "You have a right to be angry, but believe me when I say you don't want to feed that emotion." - Kyle Katarn {Owner of Liso Jowol's 550th comment, Conchris Chaotic's 80th, 150th and 350th comments, Pink Floyd's 200th comment Tyrant's 695th comment, D@RTHM@UL's 10600th comment}, accidentally tricked Pink Floyd into giving me his 1700th comment, I also have Alexander D'Kana's 1950th comment, Mindrith Pride's 1850th comment and I used the same accidental trick on Lewis's 100th comment, and I have Aiddat's 1992nd comment (birthyear), and #Elmo's 450th comment. Unsuccessfully tried to prove Senor Hat's theory wrong. Click for screenshots. Padawan of R2-D2. |
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tarpman - The Tarped Avenger 
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Quote: Yeah I think you're right, Ban. If it is real electricity then it depends on how good their Force Protect is and how damaging the electricity is. You mean Absorb. </irritating> _______________ Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time. |
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Devlin - Student 
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I'm an electrician/lighting designer for the theatre, and as such have recieved my fair share of electrocutions. Everyone here seems to have already hit the nail on the head, it is the amperage that kills a person. Whenever me and my buddies talk about our close calls we tend to speak about how many watts we were hit with because the voltage remains a constant. 120 volts is the standard in the United States for our electrical outlets, so I guess that means I've been hit with 120 volts and survived *edit* and in case you were wondering, the highest hit I received was from a 1 Kilowatt lamp filament...while the shock itself wasn't too bad, the fall from the ladder I was on really messed me up _______________ Be at peace, and you will discover things you never dreamed possible. This comment was edited by Devlin on Apr 07 2005 10:48pm. |
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Aiddat - Student 
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Yeah I think you're right, Ban. If it is real electricity then it depends on how good their Force Protect is and how damaging the electricity is. _______________ -Aiddat, the Gran with the green blades. "You have a right to be angry, but believe me when I say you don't want to feed that emotion." - Kyle Katarn {Owner of Liso Jowol's 550th comment, Conchris Chaotic's 80th, 150th and 350th comments, Pink Floyd's 200th comment Tyrant's 695th comment, D@RTHM@UL's 10600th comment}, accidentally tricked Pink Floyd into giving me his 1700th comment, I also have Alexander D'Kana's 1950th comment, Mindrith Pride's 1850th comment and I used the same accidental trick on Lewis's 100th comment, and I have Aiddat's 1992nd comment (birthyear), and #Elmo's 450th comment. Unsuccessfully tried to prove Senor Hat's theory wrong. Click for screenshots. Padawan of R2-D2. |
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Scythus Aratan - Student 
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Quote: ok update on the amp thing. OFFICIAL: It only take 1 amp to stop a human heart. But a person can live thru a 500,000 volt jolt! OUCH! That's irrelevant, amps and volts are completely different things. _______________ Padawan to the great Jacen Aratan! <Setementor> Scythus is a genius! Claimer of the 5000th post in the Count thread [Solitude] scy rocks [Casual] good point scythus, you're really smart |
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Quote: I've been shocked by the typical direct current, 230V, when i touched the damaged light switch on the wall in the dark. I can type silly comments still, means no real harm done Teehee. omg mirael is DEFINITELY my hero |
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Mirael D'Kana - Student 
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I've been shocked by the typical direct current, 230V, when i touched the damaged light switch on the wall in the dark. I can type silly comments still, means no real harm done Teehee. _______________ -The mind is its own place, and in itself, can make heaven of Hell, and a hell of Heaven.(John Milton)- Mirael D'Kana, daughter and Padawan to Jaina D'Kana, proud mastress to Crash D'Kana and Saige D'Kana. Winner of Henkes' Pure Pwnage Award. Proud owner of Jaina's 999th post. Proud user of Odan Wei's JA Logo in my avatar. -SWG random quote: People use hammers to knock holes in the wall. I use a hammer to knock Bounty Hunters' teeth out.- |
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student 
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ok update on the amp thing. OFFICIAL: It only take 1 amp to stop a human heart. But a person can live thru a 500,000 volt jolt! OUCH! _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
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BaNaNa PwN - Student 
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I expect it's not normal electrical lightning, but some sort of evil pain bringing energy, the essence of the dark side or something like that. _______________ "You hear that, Mr. Anderson? That is the sound of inevitability..." |
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student
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aye, a person can get jolted by thousands of volts. its the AMPS that kill. _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
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Jeramia Adept - Student 
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each bolt was the power of a "AA" batery _______________ The Force is my ally, and a powerful ally it is. Padawan Brother to Darth Sirius |
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Trooper! - Student 
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It's not the Volts it's the Amps. You can take quite a bit of voltage if the Amps are low. 1 Amp will kill you but you can take a little over 110V. Believe me I've taken quite a few. Also if it runs through your heart i.e. from right hand to left hand, that's bad. _______________ Honor those better than you would yourself. This comment was edited by Trooper! on Apr 06 2005 08:20pm. |
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Scythus Aratan - Student
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Was probably an AC power supply, and you got lucky and got hit at the lower voltage of the scale. Edit: Oh and BTW, it takes 30v to kill a man. _______________ Padawan to the great Jacen Aratan! <Setementor> Scythus is a genius! Claimer of the 5000th post in the Count thread [Solitude] scy rocks [Casual] good point scythus, you're really smart This comment was edited by Scythus Aratan on Apr 06 2005 07:26pm. |
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