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Orion - Retired  |
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15036964-1242,00.html All I can say is what the hell? Did she live under a rock all her live and wasn't educated? _______________ When a Man lies he murder's some part of the world. These are the pale deaths which men misscall there lives. All this I cannot bear to witness any longer. Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home? -Cliff Burton Owner of Smily's 1900th comment | <Lady_Catherine> i love your sexy white socks! | (Lady_Catherine) i adore u! | (Lady_Catherine) onion (Lady_Catherine) i lub u |
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Muad'dib - Student 
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Quote: Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom of speech we agree with--it means freedom of speech. There is no need even to talk about freedom of speech we all agree with because such speech could never possibly be threatened anyway. Well said. And I'm not sure what to say about the Che thing.  It seems like most people who wear the Che paraphenalia only know that he was a "revolutionary." Bah. Castro may not have liked Che when he was alive, but after he died he became the perfect symbol for "La Revolucion." A symbol happily whored out to any kid (I've only seen teens/twenties wearing the shirts) who feels he/she has something to rebel against, even if it's only his/her parents. So now it's evolved to symbolize anything designated 'counter-culture'.Sheep.  _______________ "It's because I love you. No. It's because I love you" Oh, Anakin, you're eloquence is second to none. I AM THE OPIATE OF THE MASSES! |
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student 
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Sorry But I find it hard to believe that people that stupid actually exsist. _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON  .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
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thewind - Student |
What's sad is that the mother is totally screwing over her baby. She's blaming the baby for her action of putting up a nazy flag. How pathetic is that? If the baby liked the colors, she could've easily had one inside the house where there is a privacy, and also easily substitue the nazi flag for other flags with similiar colors. |
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JavaGuy - Student 
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Quote: They should burn that flag IMO. The flag's owner should not have been flying it, but remember it is her property. Offensive as it may be, she should certainly have a right to fly a flag on her own property. If she really didn't know what it meant (I'm skeptical of her claim not to have known), then I suspect a sit-down conversation with a survivor or child of a survivor of a concentration camp would set her straight rather quickly. But even if it didn't, it's her property. Similar things happen here in America without any fuss. Hardly a day goes by that I don't see a kid wearing a T-shirt with a picture of mass murderer Che Guevera. These are deeply offensive to Cuban Americans, especially those who had friends and relatives tortured and murdered by Guevera and his fellow travelers, but I don't see anybody calling for the T-shirts to be burned. I'd certainly never patronize a store that sells them, though. Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom of speech we agree with--it means freedom of speech. There is no need even to talk about freedom of speech we all agree with because such speech could never possibly be threatened anyway. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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Quote: The red Nazi flag, with its black swastika on a white circle, was the symbol of Adolf Hitler's anti-Semitic German Third Reich, responsible for the slaughter of millions of innocent people. Well, thanks for the info I'd have never figured that one out. Well, apparently not everybody knows this, if this person can hang up a swastika. _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Thomasooo - Student 
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Quote: ...would not remove it because her four-month-old daughter liked its bright colours. Yeah...I'm not buying it... They should burn that flag IMO. I respect people for the way they are and what they believe in, but I do not under any circumstances respect Nazis! _______________ In the navy and LOVING it! 
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Fate - Student 
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*********SPOILER ALERT: READ ARTICLE FIRST****** Quote: The red Nazi flag, with its black swastika on a white circle, was the symbol of Adolf Hitler's anti-Semitic German Third Reich, responsible for the slaughter of millions of innocent people. Well, thanks for the info I'd have never figured that one out. Quote: Ms Duncombe had told the Daily Telegraph she did not know what the flag signified until the controversy erupted, but would not remove it because her four-month-old daughter liked its bright colours. Quote: "You have to be very ignorant to not know what that was," she said. Ok, ok.... mabye that note was worth putting in the article. _______________ I must not fear . Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear . I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. Gom gom gom gom gom! |
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Plo Koon - Student 
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ah you got me there,your right. I got up at like 4:00 a.m. so my mind was a little out of it  _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Quote: Most people don't bother to differentiate Communism, as outline in the 19th century by Marx and Engels, from Maoism, Stalinism, or Leninism. Just because a country claims to be 'communist' doesn't mean it actually is. It's like saying "Joe's a christian, therefore Joe's never told a lie." D'ya see the problem here? Anyhoo, there's my bit. I don't care to differentiate them, because they're perfect examples of how a country wanting to be communist most likely ends up. I'm all for communism, when it works. Plo: I assume you mean "country", not continent.. China isn't the largest country in the world, "just" the most populated. This comment was edited by Jacen Aratan on May 03 2005 09:39am. |
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Plo Koon - Student
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China is the most poppulated country in the world, and yet they poppulate so much that they had to invade 5 other countries and take them over with brutal violance, including Tibet. After defeating the small Tibetan army and occupying half the country, the Chinese government imposed the so-called "17-Point Agreement for the Peaceful Liberation of Tibet" on the Tibetan government in May 1951. Liberation? more like the torture and imprisonment of peaceful Bhuddist Monks. 1.2 million Tibetans have lost their lives, (over one-sixth of the population) as a result of the Chinese occupation AND even after invading and taking over numerous countries they still are crowded. Communist Dictators using fear, what gives them the right? Well Mao said..."My right comes out of the barrel of my gun" its a shame _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too This comment was edited by Plo Koon on May 03 2005 05:09pm. |
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Muad'dib - Student
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Quote: Last time I checked, Italy wasn't communist... Italy is a democracy, however it has had for the better part of the last century a successful and popular communist party. In fact it's hard to walk through some Italian cities without seeing red hammer/sickles spray painted on walls. As for China and North Korea. Yeah, they're about as communist as the soviets were. That is to say not very much, if at all. Hence my earlier satement: oligarchies more oppressive to the proletariat than the bourgiosie it villifies. As for Cuba, I haven't really been paying attention to them, so I can't really say for certain. However I know that it's a pretty destitute country in which Fidel lives pretty well, so I'm inclined to lump it in with the above. Yeah the 'removal' of opposition via secret police was never a principal laid down by Marx or Engels, so I'm loathe to consider them communist nations. And you're right to a degree, Quote: communism is good in theory, but it just doesn't work in real life. It can work, just not on it's own. It can work as a part of a larger system, as it is used in Italy, and France, and a few other European nations (Italy just happens to be one of the more successful which is why I cited it.) Quote: They're not as bad as the Soviet Union Actually, I'd have to disagree, at least where China's concerned. China is undoubtedly more brutal to "enemies of the party" than the USSR was. The Soviets sent people to penal colonies in Siberia to die, China on the other hand, utilizes a veritable cornicopia of horrific torture techniques to inspire loyalty through fear, not unlike the Death Star. Except that I think being blown up on your planet would be far more merciful than, say having bamboo shoots inserted under your fingernails. But the worst part? China is the single largest trading partner to the US. They make somewhere in the realm of 13 Billion dollars a year from the US, mostly because so much of the stuff we buy here in the good ol' US of A is made by political prisoners in China. The US is actually paying China to torture people. (As a sidenote my mother was actually a foreign coorespondent for the Financial Times in the 70's covering torture cases, not a good time.) Most people don't bother to differentiate Communism, as outline in the 19th century by Marx and Engels, from Maoism, Stalinism, or Leninism. Just because a country claims to be 'communist' doesn't mean it actually is. It's like saying "Joe's a christian, therefore Joe's never told a lie." D'ya see the problem here? Anyhoo, there's my bit. _______________ "It's because I love you. No. It's because I love you" Oh, Anakin, you're eloquence is second to none. I AM THE OPIATE OF THE MASSES! This comment was edited by Muad'dib on May 02 2005 11:43pm. |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Last time I checked, Italy wasn't communist... And yeah, communism is good in theory, but it just doesn't work in real life. There aren't "lots of places, where it works". Would you say China, Cuba and North Korea are outstanding countries? They're not as bad as the Soviet Union - which, I know, wasn't real communism - but that doesn't mean it's a great way to run a country, in reality. The truth is that communism will always fail, because of the people running it. And still, no Soviet logos are banned. |
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Muad'dib - Student
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Quote: And yeah, [Nazism] relied heavily on the killing thing in the 40s, yeah, but I don't see communist logos banned... That may be in part due to the fact that communisms basic tenets have more to do with social equality then racial superiority. Don't confuse the Soviet Union with a communist government. Because it wasn't really that into 'communism.' It could be seen as simply a massive demonstration on how Marx's fragile vision of an egalitarian utopia can be twisted into an oligarchy more oppressive to the proletariat than the bourgeoisie it villifies. Besides, communism is a legitimate form of government that works very well in many places. Take Italy for example. But them nazis is just bad news. Fo' reelzy. _______________ "It's because I love you. No. It's because I love you" Oh, Anakin, you're eloquence is second to none. I AM THE OPIATE OF THE MASSES! |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
No, national socialism isn't "all about that". Even though neo-nazis tend to be violent, that doesn't mean you should punish the whole ideology. And yeah, it relied heavily on the killing thing in the 40s, yeah, but I don't see communist logos banned... PS: Grad, yeah, as I said, she has the RIGHT. Doesn't mean it's smart, but does mean she may do it if she pleases. This comment was edited by Jacen Aratan on May 01 2005 07:14pm. |
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Gradius - Ex-Student 
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Quote: She has the right to fly whichever flag she fancies. That's true, she does have that right. That doesn't mean she should exercise it. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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Nero - Student 
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Quote: Judge the individuals, not the ideology (unless they make an official statement going "we're gonna kill all of X", of course). Which Nazism is all about (refering to the "unless"..."course" part) By the way, the Indian sign is not with red and black and white going on. It's most of the time yellow colored (it stands for a spinning milweel, wood is yellow/brown so eh?) _______________ -Nero Quote: Curious, Smartass, what else? This comment was edited by Nero on May 01 2005 06:59pm. |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Judge the individuals, not the ideology (unless they make an official statement going "we're gonna kill all of X", of course). |
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Refl3x - Student 
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I think political freedom is fine unless the party starts to become violent and corrupt. But about the article all I have to say is WTF?! _______________ "The only child ever to survive a roundhouse kick by Chuck Norris was Gary Coleman. He has not grown since." Whachoo talkin bout Willis? Go Sox baby. |
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Tallepyon - Student 
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Quote: If you're gonna forbid anything that may cause offense, the list is gonna be large. I'm a strong believer of political freedom, as well as freedom of speech. Even when that freedom means people say/do stupid things. *Takes all of aratan's political freedom* |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
If you're gonna forbid anything that may cause offense, the list is gonna be large. I'm a strong believer of political freedom, as well as freedom of speech. Even when that freedom means people say/do stupid things. |
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Jade Jedi - Retired 
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Quote: She has the right to fly whichever flag she fancies. No, she dos'nt not if it causes offence, it is Illeagle to publicly display material that immoral or offensive in nature. Also read my post below. _______________ *CLICKEH->Never risk the Fett Man|*Download my Saber here. Made by master craftsman Pink Floyd_Mintaka + his 2002 & 4000 comment's [Laz's 700th comment][BDKawika's 600th comment] & Owner of a TOWEL award!!|Master: Sared Padawans: Rage-Ball and Dante Eagle.|*Jade Jedi at The Jedi Academy Archives "There's only one Return and it's not of the King it's of the Jedi" Randal Clerks 2 The top 10 reasons why I procrastinate: 1. |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
She has the right to fly whichever flag she fancies. This comment was edited by Jacen Aratan on Apr 30 2005 09:07pm. |
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Duffman - Student 
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actualy he said "AHHHHHHHHHHH FATHERLAND!" motherland is typicaly thought of as Russian  _______________ *Sigh* Married to Mirael D'kana, Former master to Shangri Stomwind and Crash D'Kana, Owner of Gil-Galad's 100th post, Khâ D'Kana's 700th post, and friend to just about everyone |
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Lian Del Rey - Student 
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Hitler decided... "ROFLMAO!!! AHHH, MOTHALANDDDDD!! I AM GOING TO USE TEH PEESSS FLAG ANDADND MAKE IT TEH NAZI FLAG!! AHHHHHH!!!!" ...which is basically the way he talked. It's just weird thinking it of a peace sign now, there's just a weird shape of the flag that gives me the heeby-jeebies. _______________ slorp |
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Jade Jedi - Retired
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I saw this on the news here and this woman is a complete idiot. This was done just a day or so prior to ANZAC day when our country stops to remember our men and women who fought and died in wars at home and all over the wourld. She has done things like this before to get attention, alot of her neibours are elderly and some are veterens. People like this realy anoy the hell out of me. _______________ *CLICKEH->Never risk the Fett Man|*Download my Saber here. Made by master craftsman Pink Floyd_Mintaka + his 2002 & 4000 comment's [Laz's 700th comment][BDKawika's 600th comment] & Owner of a TOWEL award!!|Master: Sared Padawans: Rage-Ball and Dante Eagle.|*Jade Jedi at The Jedi Academy Archives "There's only one Return and it's not of the King it's of the Jedi" Randal Clerks 2 The top 10 reasons why I procrastinate: 1. |
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