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Epi 3 Obi vs Qui Gon
May 23 2005 11:31am

Daral-zand
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Who do u think yould win in a light saber duel.Episode 2 Obi Wan or Qui Gon. you decide.

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Here is a poll to put forward your veiw. i say episode 3 Qui Gon because that would be the time perios that the duel would be in.

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Jun 06 2005 01:03pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

obi wan kenobi with no doubts :D
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Jun 06 2005 11:58am

Matsky
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 Matsky

It's hard to say... I would make a guess that Obi-Wan has had more experience fighting with a lightsaber due to the Clone Wars (though Jedi Knight Qui-Gon has probably had more experience in other Jedi stuff than Jedi Master (not Knight or Padawn) Obi-Wan).

I think Jedi Master Obi-Wan might have defeated Darth Maul easier, possibly by himself, as well again due to his Clone War experiences, and that he has much experience fighting Sith because of this (he even goes so far as to claim they are his 'speciality').

I would say that Jedi Knight Obi-Wan might possibly win, and that Jedi Master Obi-Wan would most likely win.

I wish Qui-Gon had lasted longer - he was one of my favourite Ep. I-III characters.

This comment was edited by Matsky on Jun 06 2005 12:01pm.

May 24 2005 02:54pm

Daral-zand
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im gonna start up another "what if " duel poll soon.

May 24 2005 02:53pm

Daral-zand
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it would be a very cool fight to see, master vs apprentice(umm epi 3 lol) i think they would be evenly matched at the time of epi 3 if qui gon did not die. qui gons style and experience and obi wans energy and speed would make them even.

May 24 2005 02:22pm

Daral-zand
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to the question of what epi obi wan, i meant epi 3.

May 24 2005 02:15am

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

Aye, if Qui-gon had lived, remember that he'd be better as well, also being in battles of the Clone Wars. No doubt that he would have been much better as well. Not like he would have been sitting on his thrumbs the whole time.:P
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May 24 2005 01:41am

Ashyr
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So pretty much you'd have to take 3 things into acount:

1. What stages in their experience are both of them?

2. Why are they fighting? If one of them has more of a reason to win, that passion might give them the upper hand.

3. Where are they fighting? The terrain and climate will effect the fight and their abilities allot. (Ex. Small rock in the middle of lava vs a giant freezing tundra with snow effecting visibility.)

As far as raw skill, I'd say they are pretty evenly matched.
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May 24 2005 01:23am

Squibit
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 Squibit

Two questions before an answer can be made

Episode 2 obi-wan or episode 3 ?

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Who do u think yould win in a light saber duel.Episode 2 Obi Wan or Qui Gon.
Yet topic title says 3 !

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Depends. If Qui-Gon lived, I'm not sure. But if you're talking about Episode I Qui-Gon versus Episode III Obi-Wan? Obi.


Kenyons point is cruicial...

Obviously we are talking about what if qui-gon were alive... but has qui-gon had, (however many years it is) to improve also....

ie. Obiwan is much better than he was in episode 1... Qui-gon is as good as he was in episode 1,

or Obiwan is much better than he was in episode one... AND qui-gon is much better than he was in episode 1 as well?

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May 23 2005 10:58pm

Vasper Ba'xian
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Actually Tal it was his sudden use of the dark side that about got him killed...only when he calmed himself did he defeat Maul.
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May 23 2005 10:54pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
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 NotSoLittleCaesar

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Obi-Wan had come a long way since he was Qui-Gonn's Padawan. And as the stories go the Padawans rise to greatness in their own time.
Since Obi-Wan did alone what Qui-Gonn could not, I think it shows who's better.


let me clarify this for u . Obi 1 summoned the dark side of the force, his anger and his hate to beat mauleh. when he was forced over the hole and hangingm he used teh lgihtside ot calm himself. (1337z0rs pwnz0rs)
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May 23 2005 08:39pm

Vasper Ba'xian
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Great Points about Obi-Wan Darth Carvous. If you look in the final duel in Ep III with Anakin you can see that Obi-Wan is on defense almost if not the entire fight. Until the end where Anakin messes up and Obi-Wan finally see his opening. Where as Qui-Gon in TDOF, attacked Darth Maul alot. And when he had to defend, well we all know what happened.:(
Had he lived, I think a fight between the 2 would be a great site. But I still think that Obi-Wan would win. It seems to me that those who have a base of defense do the best while those who press hard and attack end up dying(Qui-gon) or have parts cut off(Anakin)
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May 23 2005 08:02pm

Trooper!
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Obi-Wan had come a long way since he was Qui-Gonn's Padawan. And as the stories go the Padawans rise to greatness in their own time.
Since Obi-Wan did alone what Qui-Gonn could not, I think it shows who's better.
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May 23 2005 07:58pm

Carve
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 Carve

Kenyon brings up a good point and I will too once I finish discussing his.

Let us not forget that Obi-Wan is now also a Jedi Master and has had extensive training in the field. Along the same lines, we mustn't forget that Qui-Gon has been a Jedi Master long enough to have three Padawans. It's safe to assume that, in this time, has has acquired much experience in his field.

Having said that, I think Obi-Wan would win (which saddens me somewhat because I have much love for Qui-Gon). The reason is as follows:

Qui-Gon studied a stylized form of lightsaber dueling which relied upon the Force to bolster your abilities. Obi-Wan, too, followed this style (as is to be expected in a Master-Padawan relationship). However, seeing his master cut down by Darth Maul led Obi-Wan to adjust his form to a more defensive style than Qui-Gon's so that he would never suffer the same fate.

Because of this, Qui-Gon's knowledge of his stance and, supposedly, Obi-Wan's is not a factor as Obi-Wan's focus has gone into a stance that Qui-Gon had not mastered. That this stance is one focusing more on defense than offense, I believe it is safe to assume that Obi-Wan might be able to defeat his Master.

However, in light of this information, we must also consider that Qui-Gon's style relies heavily upon the Force to bolster his physical abilities (sidenote: it is the same style which Yoda uses). This will give him a strong advantage over Qui-Gon's defensive stance. Blocking hits is all well and good, but how well can you block them when they overpower you or take you down with an attack you never saw coming? Take a look at Obi-Wan dueling with Dooku in Attack of the Clones. He blocked Dooku's attack, but Dooku was still able to overpower him (even though he is over twice Obi-Wan's age).

In conclusion, the only reason I believe Obi-Wan would come out on top is simply because he is renowned as being one of the most skillful of the Jedi Knights, hence choosing him to go on a mission to confront General Grievous -- the murderer of many Jedi. This is also the only reason Obi-Wan was able to stand up to Anakin -- a Jedi with Force power surpassing Yoda's (this information is canon) that has tapped into the rage of the Dark Side.
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May 23 2005 07:34pm

Kenyon
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 Kenyon

Depends. If Qui-Gon lived, I'm not sure. But if you're talking about Episode I Qui-Gon versus Episode III Obi-Wan? Obi.

May 23 2005 06:46pm

Monteeeeeee
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 Monteeeeeee

The Thing is, Qui gon taught Obi wan so he would know everymove he makes :P
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May 23 2005 06:31pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
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 NotSoLittleCaesar

quigon, no contest...
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May 23 2005 02:10pm

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

hmmm if Qui-gon was still alive? be close, probably Obi-Wan
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May 23 2005 01:56pm

Phantom
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 Phantom

Obi wan
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May 23 2005 01:16pm

Jade Jedi
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Obi-Wan for sure.;)
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May 23 2005 11:46am

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Obi-Wan, easily.
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