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Who do you think is the chosen one?
Jun 04 2005 06:24pm

Anakin
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Luke or Anakin

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Who do you think is the chosen one?

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Oct 17 2005 04:28pm

AvaloN
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 AvaloN

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Now then. Watch the Movies. Listen to what they say. And think of points like this;
Qui Gon pointing at Anakin "He is the chosen one." and Obi Wan fighting Anakin, "You were the chosen one!"
Now then the mother was a virgin and the child made by the force. So who is the chosen one? Some half grown punk with a green lightsaber who got his arm cut off and keeps screaming "Help me father on EpVI or a Moron who choked his own wife and then shouted "NOOOOOOOOOOOO" in his helmet?

Hmm... I believe I just contradicted myself.


Lol, u are a funny old chap :P

Oct 15 2005 10:08am

Esta
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 Esta

Ugh, as far as 'prophecy' is concerned, the chosen one is supposed to bring balance to the force.
Balance
You can't bring balance if you're just fighting on one side.
Anakin destroyed Jedi, and reigned terror in general, he even killed his own wife. After all this he went on to kill Palpatine, saving Luke bringing balance and reform...
There's no controversy in it, Luke isn't the chosen one, he's just a talented jedi.
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Oct 15 2005 07:50am

Nuebus
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 Nuebus

Now then. Watch the Movies. Listen to what they say. And think of points like this;
Qui Gon pointing at Anakin "He is the chosen one." and Obi Wan fighting Anakin, "You were the chosen one!"
Now then the mother was a virgin and the child made by the force. So who is the chosen one? Some half grown punk with a green lightsaber who got his arm cut off and keeps screaming "Help me father on EpVI or a Moron who choked his own wife and then shouted "NOOOOOOOOOOOO" in his helmet?

Hmm... I believe I just contradicted myself.
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Oct 15 2005 01:48am

JavaGuy
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 JavaGuy

Been a while since I watched it, but I don't recall that the prophecy actually said the chosen one would be born of the Force.

Anyway, Anakin's father was Naughtius Maximus.


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Oct 14 2005 09:56pm

Yuken Zalak
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 Yuken Zalak

Prophecy is never precice and can change during times... Now still if the prophecy changes so much that Anakin becomes a sith and Luke ''saves'' him, Anakin still is the chosen one of the prophecy by his birth from the force and the amazing amount of midichlorians... Those two facts are the only facts we need to tell Anakin is the chosen one of the prophecy even if the Balance bringing happens because of Luke... Prophecy says someone who is born from the force is the chosen one... Luke wasn´t born from the force so he is not the chosen oen even if he does what the chosen one is supposed to do :)
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Oct 14 2005 09:19pm

JavaGuy
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 JavaGuy

I'm skeptical as to whether there ever was a chosen one.

I'd say Anakin, but you could make a good case for Luke. It was he who brought Anakin back over from the Dark Side--something that had apparently never been done before in the thousand-generation history of the Jedi.

Yoda said that the future is always in motion, which contradicts the very notion that there could even be such a thing as a prophecy, and that's one reason why I question whether there was. Yoda himself is highly skeptical, and even Windu, who kinda sorta provisionally accepts it calls it a "legend" of a prophecy and speaks of "if" the prophecy is true. But if the prophecy was real, it perhaps left unsettled the matter of how he would bring the Force back into balance (Obi Wan adds "and defeat the Sith," but I don't know if that was in the prophecy or was just his personal interpretation of it). Killing Vader might have been one way, but converting him back--again, a once-in-history kind of event--might be another.

If the prophecy was just that he brought the Force back into balance, perhaps Sidious was the chosen one. The Light Side had dominated for a thousand generations, an imbalance if ever there was one. When his reign ended there were no more Sith, and the power of the Jedi had been broken.

My preferred interpretation is that the whole prophecy thing was just an urban legend.
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Oct 14 2005 07:40pm

Yuken Zalak
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 Yuken Zalak

OMG!!! This poll is quite useless... As far as I know Luke wasn´t born from the force and his midichlorian amount wasn´t the highest in the history of the jedi/sith... Luke didn´t kill Sidious, he didn´t destroy the sith but Anakin fulfills all these... And don´t say Luke killed Vader or Luke killed Sidious.. Vader/Anakin did both.. He killed Sidious well known about the fact he would get killed... Only thing that lets Luke be the one is that he didn´t kill Vader when he had the chance..Well neither did Obi... He could have just cut his head in five million pieces... Anakin is the one and Luke with others like Yoda, Windu, Sidious, Leia, Solo , Chewie are those who help Anakin fulfill his destiny as the chosen one... I hope this clears the minds... Luke can not be the one if the one is chosen by the profecy...
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Sep 17 2005 04:02am

bono_bob
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bah! the chose one is the jawa in a galaxy far far away from the one Lucas describes.
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Sep 02 2005 01:50am

Jeramia Adept
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 Jeramia Adept

lol, no the pit didnt, the pit isnt responsible, Anakin is because he caused the fact Palp fell down there.
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Aug 31 2005 10:17am

SaZ
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 SaZ

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i think i am the chosen one! rofl:D Beware!!!


lol n1
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Aug 29 2005 05:51pm

Ed Hunter
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 Ed Hunter

i think i am the chosen one! rofl:D Beware!!!
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Aug 29 2005 05:38pm

Strider
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 Strider

I meant that the pit killed Sidious >.<

Its just an idiotic point of mine
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This comment was edited by Strider on Aug 29 2005 05:38pm.

Aug 29 2005 12:37pm

Jeramia Adept
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 Jeramia Adept

no Sidious was already dead when the death star was starting to blow up, remember he was thrown into a reactor pit or something, even if it was the death star Anikan is still responsible because Sidious still might have escaped.
About the force the Jedi became too errogant, or proud of themselves making them blind. Anikan destroyed both the Jedi and the Sith to the point were a new order could be reformed. Luke recreated the Jedi Order with more of a broader veiw of the force, using anything that is needed to defend themselves and keep peace.
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This comment was edited by Jeramia Adept on Aug 29 2005 12:44pm.

Aug 29 2005 12:16pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

maybe some jedi didnt deserve to live?
anywayz good theory about rebirth :)

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Aug 29 2005 05:25am

Strider
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 Strider

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i think we discussed about this balance for too long. why can ppl just think that light side of the force IS the balance. you see in return of the jedi... good forces win... not the neutral ones. good forces = light side. star wars world is different from our world.
in star wars - 100% good guys = balance.
for us - 50% good guys and 50% bad guys = balance.
thats my theory and ofcourse no one should listen to me but i still think that light side = balance :)

so yeah anakin brought the balance to the force.


Right, so exactly why would the Force have Anakin kill off all the Jedi save a small handful of them and then let himself, a now evil fellow, along with his evil master, rule the galaxy for twenty years? There's absolutely no logic to it if you put it that way.

Maybe Lucas did make it that way, but a clue he left behind in the prequel trilogy as a symbol through Anakin, at least in my opinion, is that mankind cannot not be completely evil or completely good, therefore, there must be a source of corruption for it. It's a neverending string, sort of an apocolypse of the Force, then a rebirth. Just my theory though.


Indeed. How would we know good, if there was no evil? :Retorical:
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Aug 29 2005 12:27am

Fire
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 Fire

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i think we discussed about this balance for too long. why can ppl just think that light side of the force IS the balance. you see in return of the jedi... good forces win... not the neutral ones. good forces = light side. star wars world is different from our world.
in star wars - 100% good guys = balance.
for us - 50% good guys and 50% bad guys = balance.
thats my theory and ofcourse no one should listen to me but i still think that light side = balance :)

so yeah anakin brought the balance to the force.


Right, so exactly why would the Force have Anakin kill off all the Jedi save a small handful of them and then let himself, a now evil fellow, along with his evil master, rule the galaxy for twenty years? There's absolutely no logic to it if you put it that way.

Maybe Lucas did make it that way, but a clue he left behind in the prequel trilogy as a symbol through Anakin, at least in my opinion, is that mankind cannot not be completely evil or completely good, therefore, there must be a source of corruption for it. It's a neverending string, sort of an apocolypse of the Force, then a rebirth. Just my theory though.

This comment was edited by Fire on Aug 29 2005 12:29am.

Aug 28 2005 11:19pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

i think we discussed about this balance for too long. why can ppl just think that light side of the force IS the balance. you see in return of the jedi... good forces win... not the neutral ones. good forces = light side. star wars world is different from our world.
in star wars - 100% good guys = balance.
for us - 50% good guys and 50% bad guys = balance.
thats my theory and ofcourse no one should listen to me but i still think that light side = balance :)

so yeah anakin brought the balance to the force.
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This comment was edited by SaZ on Aug 28 2005 11:19pm.

Aug 28 2005 04:20pm

Strider
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 Strider

I agree with Jeramia on this one. Anakin destoyed the "known" Sith;Dooku, Sidious, anyone else I am not mentioning. So he destroyed the Sith, but that leaves too many Jedi, so he destroyed them as well, creating that "balance" the misread Prophecy told about. And it was Anakin, not Darth Vader, who killed Sidious because I believe, my opinion, that Darth Vader is the sith form of that body and Anakin in the Jedi form, thus Vader turned back into a Jedi when seeing Luke about to die and Anakin threw Sidious off.

But then...the Death Star killed Sidious now didn't it....:eek:
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Aug 28 2005 04:00pm

Jeramia Adept
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 Jeramia Adept

good theory but think about, Anikan killed the emporer and trancsended from being Sith to a jedi. thus destroying the sith. So no the Rebels did not kill the Sith it was Anikan, and it took Luke to make him realize that.
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Aug 28 2005 12:47pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

good theory pimp :P
well i guess its one of many theories...
still i guess only one person can be right...
george! :D
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Aug 28 2005 09:56am

JP
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 JP

I think as Yoda said in Episode 3, "A phophecy, that misread could have been." Analaze it how you must but in my point of view, ("Many of the truths we cling to, depend greatly on our point of view";), the chosen one was a bunch of BS something that was misread or taken out of context like the Bible often is. Where this prophecy came from? no one knows. So for all the jedi know it could be a story someone made up while at a camp fire the night before a hard day of hunting Krayt Dragons. So who do i think was the chosen one? neither of them, they all would have died whatever way you look at it. The Death Star was bout to go b00m!!! and not the emperor, not vader or luke could stop it. Who killed the sith? Lando and the rebels... so :alliance:REBEL ALLIANCE FOR LIFE:alliance:

*disclaimer*
its 5am...im tired...ill read this in the morning see if it makes any sense...then ill edit..
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This comment was edited by JP on Aug 28 2005 09:57am.

Aug 27 2005 05:27pm

Jeramia Adept
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 Jeramia Adept

Luke is not the chosen one by far, he may be the best Jedi to exist, however the prophecy stated that the choesen one will destroy the sith. Anakin killed palpatine, and then died himself after returning to the light side of the force.
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Aug 27 2005 08:52am

Altera
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 Altera

Luke Skywalker Beat Darth Vader(Anakin Skywalker)
And Luke didnt turn to the Dark Side...

So i Think Luke is the Chosen One
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This comment was edited by Altera on Aug 27 2005 08:56am.

Aug 16 2005 04:45pm

El Vee For
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 El Vee For

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I like the idea of how there isn't a dark side of light side of the force, but Jedi and Sith usually perceive it that way and just say that's how it is. I think that in order to state that the force is actually "Imbalanced", there must be a corruption. In this case, also in my own opinion, fate, or the force, had Anakin become brainless and go to the Dark Side, being a mere puppet for the Force at work. When this happened, most of the Jedi died and the Force was now in more of a balanced state.

The reason I think the Force became more balanced by this event is because the Jedi have shown corruptness, by being so good and what-not, they show absolutely no mercy towards their perception of evil as shown by Mace Windu during his fight against Palpatine in the office.

Eventually, in about 20-24 years, Anakin completed the prophecy of bringing balance to the force by killing off the final corrupt Force user in the galaxy, Emperor Palpatine.

Also notice, Obi-Wan and Yoda died during that time, in which they were part of the old Jedi order. This might have brought even more balance to the Force, but I can't be too sure as they are supposed to symbolized as wise master-like beings.

Remember, this is just my opinion, feel free to disagree.

By the way, yes I believe that Anakin is the chosen one because of all the stuff I just said. Luke was only a factor of Anakin's return to the "light" side and killing off the last of the Sith, fulfilling the Prophecy at long last.
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This comment was edited by El Vee For on Aug 16 2005 04:46pm.

Aug 16 2005 03:53pm

Fire
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 Fire

I like the idea of how there isn't a dark side of light side of the force, but Jedi and Sith usually perceive it that way and just say that's how it is. I think that in order to state that the force is actually "Imbalanced", there must be a corruption. In this case, also in my own opinion, fate, or the force, had Anakin become brainless and go to the Dark Side, being a mere puppet for the Force at work. When this happened, most of the Jedi died and the Force was now in more of a balanced state.

The reason I think the Force became more balanced by this event is because the Jedi have shown corruptness, by being so good and what-not, they show absolutely no mercy towards their perception of evil as shown by Mace Windu during his fight against Palpatine in the office.

Eventually, in about 20-24 years, Anakin completed the prophecy of bringing balance to the force by killing off the final corrupt Force user in the galaxy, Emperor Palpatine.

Also notice, Obi-Wan and Yoda died during that time, in which they were part of the old Jedi order. This might have brought even more balance to the Force, but I can't be too sure as they are supposed to symbolized as wise master-like beings.

Remember, this is just my opinion, feel free to disagree.

By the way, yes I believe that Anakin is the chosen one because of all the stuff I just said. Luke was only a factor of Anakin's return to the "light" side and killing off the last of the Sith, fulfilling the Prophecy at long last.

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