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Any Kendo/Iaido students out there?
Jun 15 2005 03:32pm

NofrikinfuN
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My interest in sword fighting has been rekindled, so I've been poking around for a real-life outlet. I was wondering, does anyone here attend regular Kendo or Iaido classes? Those seem the most interesting to me at the moment.

Unfortunately, being as far in the boondocks as I am, it's very unlikely I'll be able to attend any classes at a dojo. For that reason, I have a couple more questions!

1) Does anyone know of any good books or videos about Kendo or Iaido? Anything instructional would be interesting. (I'm not much into the philosophy aspects of the arts at the moment.)

2) Has anyone tried something a little more "Western"? Fencing has always kind of rubbed me the wrong way, but it IS interesting in that it's a form of swordsmanship. Failing that, perhaps someone knows of a European/Medieval form of swordsmanship?

Currently the closest I have to experience with a sword is boffer sword fighting using PVC pipe and pipe foam. While that's a fun game, it really doesn't teach as much as I'd like about swordsmanship and tends to degenerate into beating the crap out of one another with pipes.

With a bit of instruction in some sword art or another, I think some of my friends and I would find the boffer version much more entertaining/rewarding.

How about everyone else? Any real life sword enthusiasts out there?

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Jun 25 2005 10:47pm

Ra
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Ju-Jitsu can teach you a little about fighting with Katans and wakazashies but the training dosent go to deep into it as Ju-Jitsu is mainly self defence so uses throws, locks and holds. I dont know where you can get a book on Ju-Jitsu that looks at sword play but if you do find one you can learn alot about sword fighting. :D
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Jun 20 2005 07:07am

O'Liin Onasi
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well man i dont know the name of the books right now but,I do know that if your interested there are loads of info on the net.literally.you could be busy for hours reading on the net. but anyway ill get back to you with some of those bookslater on,cya later.:D
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Jun 20 2005 01:06am

tarpman
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>.>

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quiet you...
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Jun 19 2005 09:50am

Nero
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But isn't that partly because he is your dad and
he knows how you are and how to reach you and stuff?

Anyway, it sucks you've got this distance to overcome
but I know there are some online fora and site which
will give you a lot of info ... I can't find a link currently though.
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Jun 18 2005 09:22pm

tarpman
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If you do decide to go to classes in anything, I recommend looking for small, privately owned classes with well-certified instructors rather than big nation-wide chains. Just on principle.

My dad teaches karate in his spare time, having spent 8 years in Japan learning it, and I have taken classes both with him and at Canada's Best Karate and can guarantee that his are better.
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Jun 17 2005 07:27pm

NofrikinfuN
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To clarify, I did not mean I intend to gloss over the philosophy of the arts entirely, just that I'm not interested in learning it exclusively. (Since books on such matters are much easier to come across than teachers of the art.)

Jun 17 2005 05:28pm

Plo Koon
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Well I wouldn't want you swinging around real swords if your not interested in the whole art or philosphy of it.

I do Tae Kwon Do, the way of the foot & fist. I don't think my schools instructor does weapons, I'm not even sure if any TKD school does weapons because Tae = foot, Kwon = hand, Do = art or way, but I have seen a nun-chucks class a few years ago, but I don't see it now.

We get suited up in a hogus, head gear, and some forearm and shin guards, and we go all out. the rounds last only a few minutes, but when you have two people who can land some well placed kicks, it can definatly knock you back, or knock the breath out of you. Just try and find some video of two black belts sparring, man they go of like fire-crackers, bahbah bahbahbhabahabah! :cool:
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Jun 17 2005 04:44am

NofrikinfuN
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 NofrikinfuN

Yea, I'm not too keen on the idea of trying to teach myself anything because I simply don't learn that way. I need a solid base off which I can mimic a technique, then repeat it to death. I seem to have trouble interpreting directions when I can't ask questions.

Too bad, too bad. Any instructors for any of this are 60 miles or more away. I guess boffer is my only outlet at this time. :(

Jun 16 2005 08:50pm

Carve
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 Carve

Saber fencing isn't just poking around. It involves slashes and stuff and while it is a point I guess there might be a degree of practicality to it as well.

Problem is you'll have a hard time learning anything without an actual instructor.
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Jun 16 2005 08:04pm

DJK
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I train Kung Fu with one of my friends regular.
I'll soon have to take trial again :)

I'm not allowed to fight with any real weapons for now though :(

This is probably the closest there is to the type im training with

Jun 16 2005 07:12pm

Nero
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 Nero

or this double sided blade :P
or this for perfect style :)

Ow yeah, you can also just go do Kung-fu it includes lots and lots of different weapons, you can later on pick one of them, and within that one , one particular style :)
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Jun 16 2005 05:32pm

Thomasooo
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I'll probably pick up swordfighting some day. :) A bokken seems good (but if I really want to go nuts with my money, I'll probably get a suburito! Thanks for the tip, Nero. :)

When I really have too much money, I'll probably buy this baby! :D
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Jun 16 2005 01:20pm

NofrikinfuN
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I hadn't considered there might be a different form of fencing... Mostly you just see the two guys with wibbly foils. The idea of using some semblance of a sword to fence is intriguing.

Thanks for the tip, tarpman. :D

The movie battles thing looks kind of interesting, but to be honest, I'd rather not need to coordinate the fight beforehand. Maybe it's a competitive part of me (Which I thought was beaten out a long time ago), but I like for it to be a dynamic win or lose kind of thing. You never know how fast you can react until you're about to be bludgeoned by a pipe!

Keep 'em coming guys!

Jun 16 2005 06:10am

tarpman
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NFF - If standard foil fencing isn't quite up your alley, you might want to try saber fencing. Despite being based on the same ideas, it's a significantly different way of fighting. Also it has the word "saber" in its name. :P
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Jun 16 2005 05:01am

Vasper Ba'xian
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Not swords myfriend. Nun-Chucks! Gimme a pair and call me glimmer man!
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Jun 15 2005 10:46pm

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I've once heard that they're making those Jedi styles a real thing, a real sport, or something like that

The guy's who helped coordinate the sabre fighting in the Star Wars movies is running Jedi style fighting classes in Sydney, but I've heard they're expencive. Here's their web site
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Jun 15 2005 06:18pm

Nero
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Currently I'm in the process of getting my Kendo classes up, I really look forward on starting :)

I can recommend buying a 'Bokken' it's basicly a 40 inch wooden katana which get's you up for some really good training, you can get a Bokken between 10 and 500 bucks, so go google one :P
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Jun 15 2005 05:11pm

Koyi Donita
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Learning some sort of Jedi style sword fighting would be fun to show off with, but a fencer probably could whoop the pants off anyone using it in a real duel. :D

Edit. I'm actually surprised they didn't have any fencing in the movies at all. It would be alot like the blue stance, but with more jabs and thrusts. Fast paced saber combat with alot of sparks and flash. I think the fans might enjoy it. :)
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Jun 15 2005 04:39pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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I've once heard that they're making those Jedi styles a real thing, a real sport, or something like that

I might study it. I like Obi-Wan's style :P
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