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NofrikinfuN - Retired  |
Calling all hardcore modders! http://forums.filefront.com/showthread.php?t=198950 Here is a little doozy I stumbled on over at JK3files. I had actually been drawing up designs for such a mod myself, before I even found this, but was only doing so as a hobby... Ya know, since I don't know the first thing about modding. The basic idea is this: Rather than having the same 3 forms we've been using since the beginning of JK2, why not make 7 forms based on the EU descriptions? Here they are on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightsaber_combat Now, I'm not talking about doing all of this at once. Saber stances already in the game, or variations based on the dual and staff saber (Having one of two blades turned off) could yield between 9 and 11 total stances, depending on whether JK3 still has Desann and Tavion's stance. These could be used as fillers for the big 7 until we could organize some serious animation modifications. Now, beyond the physical forms themselves, I think it would be VITAL to include a system to limit which forms can be taken together. My proposal for this problem is a point system, not unlike the current system for selecting force powers. I've drawn up an outline to this idea here: http://www.geocities.com/nofrikinfun/ Another thing I would be interested in including is an attribute system, as seen in MANY RPG's, with attributes to modify damage, defense, force points, special attack costs and force regeneration. (Maybe even HP or something.) I don't know if attributes are possible, but my guess is that they will be hella complicated. The reason I want an attribute system goes back to the chart I made up for the forms. Basically, I want each form to have latent and active modifiers for various attributes the form compliments. For example, Form III is a heavily defensive form, so it should have a small latent defense modifier, and a larger defense modifier when its in use. Anywho, I'm rambling now. If you want to know more, check the various url's I posted.  This post was edited by NofrikinfuN on Jun 29 2005 03:15pm. |
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Vruki Salet - Student 
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I understand that. I just hate to see it expressed that way. Anyway let's get back to the topic at hand. I wish anyone who is interested in discussing this mod get in touch with me. Some testing ought to be needed soon. I'm going to need someone on the server who can take direction better than a bot. Besides that I'd like to have a pool of ideas and convsersation about the topic. This comment was edited by Vruki Salet on Feb 04 2006 05:53pm. |
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R2D2 - Staff 
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Quote: if you can pull this off...........YOUR GOD! Please don't say such things. You can't imagine how offensive it is.  I don't believe Vasper meant for it to be offensive. He's quite an avid Star Wars fan and was expressing his excitement concerning the project. _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try" Jedi Master Yoda Dual Saberist |
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Vruki Salet - Student
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Quote: if you can pull this off...........YOUR GOD! Please don't say such things. You can't imagine how offensive it is. |
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Vruki Salet - Student 
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I have no idea about anyone else's project but I am still working on it, slowly though constantly. |
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Pink_Mintaka - Student 
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Wow, this sounds like a Great idea! it hasnt been posted in in a while. is it still under construction? has it stopped completely? i realllllly hope you guys can pull this off, it sounds Awesome!! |
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O'Liin Onasi - Student 
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player skill,luck,and experience play a large roll in which style would win. _______________ Comments Owned- Darth Mike's100th. Stig's 300th. BDKawika's 400th. Grycen's 200th Ryu's 222th. Kenwan Obiobi/C'au Onasi's 150th. Tidus' 30th. Padawan of Tido. Master to Fox-AJ-Onasi, and Ryu. Brother of BDKawika, and Enoch/Vamushka. Founder of the Onasi Family. Friend to many. This comment was edited by O'Liin Onasi on Dec 12 2005 02:00am. |
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Oscar Eto'o-lene - Student 
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Whoa. If you guys manage to pull this off, it really is big news. Have any of you ever noticed the immensity of the saber forms (as measured by the size of the Wikipedia article)? Balance will also be a big, big issue. We're going to have 7 forms here, and with seemingly contradicting attributes. Consider Form II, Makashi, and Form III, Soresu. Makashi is supposedly the 'best' form against lightsabers, yet Soresu provides the 'best defense'. If these two forms were to clash, which one would prevail? However, due to its immensity, two people, no matter how skilled, are not enough. If there is anything I could help with, please enlist me. But I can't animate... I can do research and contribute ideas tho... P. S. : If a system where more than one form can be learnt, it would be best to allow 'students' to master one form more than the others. _______________ "The ultimate skill to learn is to hit your enemies so fast that they don't even know what hit them." This comment was edited by Oscar Eto'o-lene on Dec 06 2005 01:50pm. |
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R2D2 - Staff
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Whoa, this is a great idea. I don't have a lot of experience with modding in particular but I'm quick to learn. If this project gets going, I would love to contribute wherever I can  _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try" Jedi Master Yoda Dual Saberist |
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El Vee For - Student 
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How it goin so far? _______________ “Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you’re still retarded.” |
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bono_bob - Student |
PULL IT OFF!!! _______________ "Darkness is simply the absence of Light" "Is it not easier to snuff out the light completely than to make no shadow or darknes at all and create pure light?" "Is there a limit to Light?" - Jawa Jedi from a galaxy far far way of the one Lucas describes ( not in that galaxy ) |
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AvaloN - Student 
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my guess is that u are gettin in way over your head, but id like to see u prove me wrong. |
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student 
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same here. It almost sounds easier to make a whole new game altogether. But if you can pull this off...........YOUR GOD! _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
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O'Liin Onasi - Student 
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I cant mod and cant animate anything either but if you need sum 1 to research or beta test i will be more than glad to help you. _______________ Comments Owned- Darth Mike's100th. Stig's 300th. BDKawika's 400th. Grycen's 200th Ryu's 222th. Kenwan Obiobi/C'au Onasi's 150th. Tidus' 30th. Padawan of Tido. Master to Fox-AJ-Onasi, and Ryu. Brother of BDKawika, and Enoch/Vamushka. Founder of the Onasi Family. Friend to many. This comment was edited by O'Liin Onasi on Sep 01 2005 11:50pm. |
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DarthMike - Student 
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wow great idea go for it! _______________ "You can't get Windows on a Mac because the drivers are not compatible." --- Some dude from the Geek Squad "So if you have quad-core, you have four times the RAM, right?" --- Some guy at Best Buy |
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Vruki Salet - Student
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I intend to do this. I have started in a small way making animations, but it's harder then I thought and I need more practice before they're satisfactory. Still, I'm going for it. |
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Dash Starlight - Jedi Instructor 
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O M G !! If thats mod gonna be completed, Im pretty sure it'll rock big time. WOW! It just so happens that I dont have a shred of knowledge about modding, so I wont be any good Such a pity, as it'd be great to take part in this. Actually Im a bit of a fan of those Forms, I think it'd allow the JK players to come even closer to being 'real' jedi _______________ The name is Bond. James Bond. |
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Ecks - Student 
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Even if you just make one (preferably Soresu, hehehehe  ), you'd have my respect, since I can't even animate a ball rolling lol. _______________ "To become a greater man, you must be a lesser one first." |
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Eica - Student 
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One hell of an idea, will be as hard as hell I've never heard anyone attempt it before _______________ Former padawan of RoseRed |
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SaZ - Student 
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i think all ppl who will try to make this mod should organise everything first. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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El Vee For - Student 
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Quote: Urk... I had no idea what I was getting myself into. Hopefully, I can at least figure Dragon out and start playing with some animations. That will have to be step ONE for me. Things I have no clue how to begin are plentiful though. I'ma have to learn a lot here. As for ideas or anything, I'm open for anything really. Just drop me a line here or my email addy. nofrikinfun@gmail.com hates to be cliche but even the greatest journey begins with a single step. seems to this reader you have already begun. All you need to do is narrow your focus on one style/form and I am sure the pieces will start to fall in to place, you have what it takes to get it started you have what it takes to get it done!! peace _______________ “Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you’re still retarded.” |
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JamesF1 - Student 
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Any progress on this? Sounds like pure awesomeness _______________ Website |
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NofrikinfuN - Retired 
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Urk... I had no idea what I was getting myself into. Hopefully, I can at least figure Dragon out and start playing with some animations. That will have to be step ONE for me. Things I have no clue how to begin are plentiful though. I'ma have to learn a lot here. As for ideas or anything, I'm open for anything really. Just drop me a line here or my email addy. nofrikinfun@gmail.com |
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The Dragon Reborn - Student 
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AWESOME! Saber forms get em made! i'll be happy to help any way i can, but erm, i dunno if ill be much use we'll see lol _______________ Padawan to Solitude "Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and hate leads to... suffering" -Jedi Master Yoda "I shall not fear. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will allow it to pass over me and through me, and when it has gone i will turn my inner eye to see its path. Where fear has gone there will be nothing. Only i will remain." -Bene Gesserit Litany, Dune |
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Vruki Salet - Student
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Yes the last week or so I've had the same idea. Please contact me at vruki@taddia.com if I don't get to you first N.F.F. I'll write up my ideas and see what you think. |
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Aiddat - Student 
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Vruki might be interested, he's talked to be about something like that before. _______________ -Aiddat, the Gran with the green blades. "You have a right to be angry, but believe me when I say you don't want to feed that emotion." - Kyle Katarn {Owner of Liso Jowol's 550th comment, Conchris Chaotic's 80th, 150th and 350th comments, Pink Floyd's 200th comment Tyrant's 695th comment, D@RTHM@UL's 10600th comment}, accidentally tricked Pink Floyd into giving me his 1700th comment, I also have Alexander D'Kana's 1950th comment, Mindrith Pride's 1850th comment and I used the same accidental trick on Lewis's 100th comment, and I have Aiddat's 1992nd comment (birthyear), and #Elmo's 450th comment. Unsuccessfully tried to prove Senor Hat's theory wrong. Click for screenshots. Padawan of R2-D2. |
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