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Should YDFA be nerfed like backstab?
Jun 07 2025 03:33am

.Templar.
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.Templar.
Y'all think they will ever nerf YDFA like they did backstab? - Just asking

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Apr 04 2003 06:49am

DrummerBoy [JAS]
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 DrummerBoy [JAS]

alright, thx guys, i get the YDFA, ill have to get someone to show me the DFA....that wont be for a while unfortunaely...my cd-rom just busted itself up, and i gotta get a new one, hopefully this weekend:mad::mad::mad:
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Apr 04 2003 04:17am

Chainer
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 Chainer

the no recoverey ydfa usually does lil to no dmg as is so whats the point

Apr 03 2003 10:07pm

Gish the Monkey
 - Ex-Student

You can do the ydfa without having to recover? You can run while doing the ydfa? What the... why would anyone want to do that? It takes all the fun out of it. As for being able to spin the entire, I agree with whoever said spin in air but not once on the ground. That's the sweet spot
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Apr 03 2003 10:34am

Jake Kainite
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 Jake Kainite

DFA = Heavy stance lunge, a phat dive and very powerful move, also used for parachute (had to mention it :P)

YDFA = Yellow DFA :D The wicked kool looking over head flip thing where you swing down. The Medium special basically.
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Apr 03 2003 06:22am

DrummerBoy [JAS]
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 DrummerBoy [JAS]

ok...i feel really stupid now....i played nonstop back when the game came out, but i havent played in forever, so i have no clue...what the heck is YDFA? and DFA and such? sorry, i mean, i guess im decent, but just dont know the terminology...aight...
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Mar 25 2003 05:54am

Mikel Rider
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 Mikel Rider

I think it is fine how it is, and the running dfa only happens when you don't want it to, I prefer the no recoverv allmost 100% of the time.
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Mar 17 2003 01:30pm

MINDofSIN
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 MINDofSIN

That's a bug? Wow, I do that all the time :\
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Mar 17 2003 11:44am

.Templar.
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 .Templar.

I think it should be made where you can turn it in the air all you want, but once any part of your body touches the ground, you should no longer be able to turn (I know I'm guilty of turning the saber to block all incoming enemy attacks while YDFA'ing)

Mar 16 2003 06:40pm

Shannon -SC-
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 Shannon -SC-

I don't think it should be changed. Ydfa has so many ways to avoid/counter it is good where it is. (kick dfa anyone?) As for the 'the no recovery yellow DFA should be taken out.' The running ydfa as i call it does no damage. Try it, it takes only 1hp away!
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Mar 16 2003 01:36pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

No I watched people do the exact same thing with backstab. It wasn't one hit kill because I survived the attacks from it before people thought it would be cool to spin around like a spaz. The attack was unbalanced in damage compared to the other ones. Spinning around allowed people to actually have the same move connect more than once. You couldn't just take one hit from it and then its passed you. you'd take it about 5 times or more depending on how much they spun. So instead of you being able to take the shot and then maybe get in an attack of your own while they are still turned around they slice through you.
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Mar 16 2003 01:24pm

Haemon
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 Haemon

Buzz backstab wasn't a one-hit-kill because you could turn it. In case you've forgotten backstab is just when you stick the saber straight back moving it only helped you're aim. Backslash is the one where everyone spun like crazy. Now having done backslash for months I know that it wasn't the mad spins that killed the person it was catching them at the right point in the slash(close to the end), yawspeed just made this easier. If the damage had been left the same and the spin was taken out it would still be a one hit kill.

Mar 15 2003 03:44pm

Buzz
 - Student
 Buzz

Actually there is a command in single player that makes you slow in your motions. I believe if you downloaded the original Ladder map It was listed in the readme along with the g_saberrealisticcombat 1 which makes the saber slightly more deadly and allows you to carve up all those reborn into nice tiny pieces.
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Mar 15 2003 03:35pm

Jake Kainite
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 Jake Kainite

The yellow DFA is pretty nasty if it catches you in the right spot, but is quite easy to avoid when you think about it. Backstab was pretty lethal but even more so with the combination of pull, which made it nearly impossible to avoid (unless you could do the counter jump trick which is very hard or get them first :D)

The ability to spin it should be fixed, should be possible as they did the same thing with the heavy DFA. Its all about saying 'when this animation is executed set yaw spin allow to 0' or something like that, obviously a bit more complex in C code :) It would actually be possible to make all swings so you can't move till its finsihed the animation but how boring would that be.

Another patch isn't going to happen though, its like a 1 in a 1000 chance of getting another patch as raven and lucasarts have kinda given up on this game with people keeping on whining about fix this fix that, most of those people having not played the game very long.


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Mar 15 2003 02:51pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

The backstab was an exploit. It never was a one hit kill, The only reason it ever was a one hit kill was because of that spinning garbage that allowed the glitch. If you make any attack one hit kill in this game then that is all that people are going to use. You'd be back to people only doing rdfa over and over because no matter how many times you hit them they have just have to touch you with it. Same thing with backstab. You'd just have people running around backwards hoping to get lucky and then the match is over. I don't think any move should be one hit kills with the combat system used in JO.
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Mar 15 2003 02:30pm

Haemon
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 Haemon

Nerfing has done enough damage to this game. Moves should be fixed, not nerfed. By fixed I mean, for example, that the no recovery yellow DFA should be taken out. It is an actual bug/exploit while backstab wasn't, it was just a powerful(and awkward if you think about it) move. You shouldn't have been able to turn backstab and the damage revving was messed up but the it should still be a one-hit-kill(its not).

Mar 15 2003 01:03am

Buzz
 - Student
 Buzz

I think perhaps once you land it could be argued for. But not in the air. Since you can turn while you jump and turn while you jump and swing your saber so its a different situation from the backstab.
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Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it.


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