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Jedi Temple Massacre
Jul 12 2005 11:18pm

Ian Jandos
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Sorry, but the Jedi must be really weak if they got put down by a few Clones. I don't read the books or anything, but I would imagine that the Jedi population would be huge at its galactic hub; perhaps hundreds.

Granted, no Masters were probably present, but still...unless they all had their backs turned when they were shot at, they should have smoked the clones. BTW--I didn't see enough clones on the floor either.

No outer defenses at the fort, hmmm.

Having said that, it wouldn't have been a problem for the remaining Jedi to take down Anakin.

I won't even talk about the Palpatine arrest

Parrying, Laser Deflection, that's Saber 101, right?

Perhaps, if they had made the prequels about Anakin becoming Vader sooner, and showed more of his personal "hunting" down of the Jedi, that would have been more interesting...oh well:(

-Ian
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Jul 16 2005 07:19am

tarpman
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Six to one? By this point in the war, after so many Jedi dying on Geonosis, there would have been several thousand clones to each Jedi.
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Jul 15 2005 03:07pm

Ecks
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The books are inaccurate, because they are written from the author's point of view, not an omniscient one. In the ROTS novelization, the author changes much of the scenes in the movie to suit his plot, such as Yoda being shot down to the ground by Palpatine's lightning, when in fact, it was the explosion of force powers. As well, he altered the Dooku and Obi v Anakin duel as well.

IMO, Yoda was more powerful than Palpatine, Anakin should've been stronger than Obi, but Obi was smarter. And the clones outnumbered the Jedi six to one... barring perhaps the most powerful Sith and Jedi, no man or woman can beat those odds.
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Jul 14 2005 10:35pm

El Vee For
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 El Vee For

The Jedi Knights were scattered across the galaxy fighting the Droid Armies. The Temple is/was nearly deserted with the exception of Padawan, Younglings and Staff.

Have you ever been to the Pentagon, Pre-9/11 anyways, no Tanks no Turrets no sandbags, the only fortifications were a cyclone fence and a few armed guards. Democracy breeds a sense of security that is false, see 9/11 for proof of that.

Last I'd say there is a gap in the that story you see in the movie, try the book it details the situation at hand alot better. George Lucas always says "Only the movies represent my true vision of Star Wars." That being so his vision is constricted to 2.5 hrs cuz that the longest running time he would make it, since at that length it will run more times per day per theater and run up his check book. The movies are about money baby, the books carry a much better story. George Lucas does a dis-service to every fan by cutting scene after scene so that he can line his pockets.

I am surprised he didn't make every 'saber in the movie green. Greedy Green, the color of cash.
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This comment was edited by El Vee For on Jul 14 2005 10:37pm.

Jul 14 2005 10:00pm

(Jedi)Obi-JK
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Taken from http://ter.air0day.com/?script=revengeofthesith

IAN MCDIARMID
Go kill all of the Jedi in the temple,
including the children.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Right, go kill the children. Got it.

IAN MCDIARMID
Well, kill everyone, not just--

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
(leaving)
On my way to kill all of the children now! Whee!

He DOES.
The CLONE TROOPERS kill most of the adult Jedi,
while the challenging task of murdering children can only be undertaken by the DARK LORD OF THE SITH.


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Jul 14 2005 09:20pm

tarpman
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Also, there were very few full Jedi left at the temple. Shaak Ti I think was the only notable one. The others were all spread out across the galaxy fighting the Separatists, leading clone battalions.
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Jul 14 2005 03:17am

Ecks
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 Ecks

If you find a Jedi who can block 6 clones shooting rapid fire bolts at him simultaneously, tell Darth Vader that he definetely is not the chosen one.

It's a lot harder than it looks. I was actually surprised that it took that MANY clones to kill all the Jedi. The scene where they kill Ki-Adi-Mundi and Aayla show that at least 5 clones were shooting on them at once.
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Jul 14 2005 02:43am

Jeramia Adept
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 Jeramia Adept

not only that, the troopers were specially trained for taking down Jedi. Anakin being a jedi shocked all the jedi who saw him turn. plus the attack was a total blind side from the Emporer.
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Jul 13 2005 01:49pm

Tyrant
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 Tyrant

Did you see all the clonetroopers :eek:??!!! A few clones? Only 1000 or more

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Jul 13 2005 09:05am

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

Well thats why Obi-Wan and Yoda went back tot he temple after the attack. To shut down the signal calling them back to the trap. Its known that Jedi survive past Episode III. But its also known that Vader hunts them down. I'm sure there were several Kinghts in the temple, maybe dozens. But when you put that up against Anakin along with many thousands of troopers. Well ya know...
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Jul 13 2005 06:32am

Ian Jandos
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So I guess, my real question is what was the numerical strength of the Jedi ranks.

It seemed like only the Masters (from the council) and their Padawans fought in the Clone Wars...so the rest must have been on routine missions. But if they were, then their deaths are implied...otherwise they would be at the Jedi temple too...
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Jul 13 2005 05:56am

Vasper Ba'xian
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What you fail to understand though is that it wasn't supposed to be much of a fight. The Emperor set all that in motion when setting the Jedi up. He knew the war would have them spread thin, that the temple wouldn't be well gaurded. They wouldn't expect an attack on the capitol again let alone the Jedi Temple. If theres one thing above all else Sidious is a Master of, its Stradegy.
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Jul 13 2005 03:33am

Ian Jandos
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 Ian Jandos

Not really thinking in gaming terms at all...but if any of these were Clone War veterans...than laser dodging would be their specialty, right?

Ok, well I didn't have the impression it was thousands...but I can obviously agree with that.

What I was saying was that if the Jedi routed the clones...then Anakin would not have been a match for tons of Jedi at once.

My point is that the whole fall of the Jedi wasn't depicted as much of a fight...which I suppose is Lucas point...which became real obvious when the "Masters" rolled over for Palpatine.

-Ian


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Jul 13 2005 12:38am

Thomasooo
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Quote:
acouple hundred thousand clones is more like it.

Against teenagers and baby children.

Your thinking too much like a video game Ian.

Plus you had the chosen one against you.

Face it, if anikan is against you, your skrewed if your not obiwan :)

Seconded.
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Jul 13 2005 12:23am

Plo Koon
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acouple hundred thousand clones is more like it.

Against teenagers and baby children.

Your thinking too much like a video game Ian.

Plus you had the chosen one against you.

Face it, if anikan is against you, your skrewed if your not obiwan :)
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Jul 13 2005 12:08am

DarthMike
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anikan was the chosen one, so he could basically pwn anyone there. Plus there were tons of clones and most of the guys at the temple were just kids or teens.
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Jul 12 2005 11:59pm

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

1st off, there weren't just a few clones. They had a Dark Jedi and there were thousands of troops storming the temple.

Well, the Jedi did things wrong yes. Givin their suspition of a plot to overthrow the Jedi, they should have had more defenses at the temple. But they didn't. Most of the able jedi were out fighting. I'm sure they didn't expect to be betrayed by the Republic they were fighting to save.
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