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Jul 20 2005 04:12am

Vasper Ba'xian
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I don't know if there will be another JA game made but I hope so. JK3 is ok but there are so many places that they could take this game. For one, I'm tired of seeing them set around this timeline. Either make it way in the future or way in the past. And give us some enemies that arent so easy to beat. Even a story set in the NJO timeline. They Yuuzhan Vong were very powerful, that would be a great fight.
As far as game play goes. It should have more options. Things should be more manual in the way of blocking and counters. Lets see different fighting styles *example: Traditional single. Better dual and staff movement, reversed grip, dual reversed grip, fencing style. Imagine the game play with those options! Not only would you have to get good at a style, you'd have to learn to defend against many styles. Plus each person plays that style differently. Add Manual blocks and counters and its ALL skill. Even make Blocking blaster shots more of a manual task. more controled force powers.

Any who...what do ya think?
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Aug 02 2005 12:38am

Hitokiri
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The game you guys are kind of "inventing" seems to be a lot like the Episode 3 game, with online.

:D
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Aug 02 2005 12:27am

DJ Sith
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 DJ Sith

I'd love to see a d3 based JK4. NJO would be tip top. Lots of interesting side stories to play along with. But I doubt it'd happen any time soon. LEC seems VERY focussed on prequel games. Block button is cool too. It doesn't need to be anything fancy, just 1 step above auto block. Hold down the button to block incoming shots.

Gah now I'm all excited too. Thanks alot, guys.:P
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Aug 02 2005 12:22am

Ecks
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 Ecks

If Raven manages to do that, I will eat 3 week old leftover spinach... without a glass of water. :P
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Aug 01 2005 10:17pm

Jake Kainite
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 Jake Kainite

Imagine having the physics of the halflife 2 source engine to run the force powers on......now that people, would be a game!
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Aug 01 2005 07:42pm

Pa'aN
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 Pa'aN

reading this thread has gotten me all excited.

*takes a long stick,jump around the room and swing it around, making buzzing sounds*

i really did that btw :P

nyways, having a game in the NJO timeline seems interesting. let's hope someone at lucasarts or raven reads this thread ;)
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Jul 23 2005 07:22am

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

I think it will be fine if they don't phase him out. But I'd like to see a story change. A lot of people who play this game AND read the YJK and NJO series will probably agree that I'd like to be able to fight along side Corran Horn, Jacen, Jaina, and Anakin Solo. Stare at Mara's sexy self:D I think the NJO stroy would make for a AWSOME story/timeline in the next game. Luke is still alive as well as Kyle. And it would be much harder because force powers don't effect Yuuzahn Vong. They would have to make it to where you could use your surroundings to aid you, just like they do in the books.


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This comment was edited by Vasper Ba'xian on Jul 23 2005 07:24am.

Jul 23 2005 12:43am

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

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Storyline: NJO v The Vong
Create you Character: Jedi or Sith.
Lots of Species to select from all in jedi Outfits.
Male or Female.
Varying Size height/Width the bigger you r atre the more powerfull but you are slower
Jedi/Sith powers.
Choose whether you fight right or left handed.

Storylines Include meeting with and fighting along side all the Main Characters Solos, Skywlakers, Durron, Horns etc. As well as the Vong, Peace Brigade the Imperials.

You can use Light or Dark powers not both and if you choose Dark, characters treat you differently. A point where you visit Coruscant under Vong Rule.

Storylines that interact with those in the books.

Some sort of blocking scheme so you can fight defensively.

I should have started this post Dear Santa :)


The last of the sith have been killed for over 10 years, there are no more sith, ever, you'd be a dark jedi.

And besides, the second you couldn't play Kyle the story was messed up, the JediKnight series are about him.
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Jul 22 2005 11:36pm

bono_bob
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Well I don't mind the story line being at the asme timeline I mean it makes perfect sense.. it is the jedi knight series and there are not any other games of the same timeline.
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Jul 20 2005 08:52pm

Ecks
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 Ecks

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doesnt look like any jk game at all :P


But it'd be fun. :P
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Jul 20 2005 07:09pm

R2D2
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 R2D2

I would love to see dual phase sabers like Corran Horns :)
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Jul 20 2005 07:03pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

i dont think selecting jedi/sith is a good idea :) i think it would be more interesting to start as a scoundrel or somethin :)

i was thinkin about these saber fights...
i think they should make something that requires more skill. like if you are unskilled you will really fail. best example for skill-system like this is rally games (colin mcrae for example).
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Jul 20 2005 06:59pm

Roan Belouve
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 Roan Belouve

Storyline: NJO v The Vong
Create you Character: Jedi or Sith.
Lots of Species to select from all in jedi Outfits.
Male or Female.
Varying Size height/Width the bigger you r atre the more powerfull but you are slower
Jedi/Sith powers.
Choose whether you fight right or left handed.

Storylines Include meeting with and fighting along side all the Main Characters Solos, Skywlakers, Durron, Horns etc. As well as the Vong, Peace Brigade the Imperials.

You can use Light or Dark powers not both and if you choose Dark, characters treat you differently. A point where you visit Coruscant under Vong Rule.

Storylines that interact with those in the books.

Some sort of blocking scheme so you can fight defensively.

I should have started this post Dear Santa :)
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Jul 20 2005 06:58pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

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That's exactly why I hate the blocking lol. One hit kill dueling just isn't... fun. I prefer just twitch pressing, where like one a blow is about to hit you, an icon flashes on screen, and then you have to press the block button before it disappears or your opponent scores a hit; plus if you time it right, you can score a parry, counterattack, etc.


doesnt look like any jk game at all :P
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Jul 20 2005 06:20pm

Ecks
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 Ecks

That's exactly why I hate the blocking lol. One hit kill dueling just isn't... fun. I prefer just twitch pressing, where like one a blow is about to hit you, an icon flashes on screen, and then you have to press the block button before it disappears or your opponent scores a hit; plus if you time it right, you can score a parry, counterattack, etc.
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Jul 20 2005 05:33pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

lol block button and manual combo style blocking sounds crap to me.
if you want block button just play movie battles 2 :P
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Jul 20 2005 05:12pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

why don't we just make our own game?
plenty of talented people here :P
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Jul 20 2005 04:38pm

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

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But how would you add manual blocking?
No one's fast enough to press the right combo of buttons if you see a swing coming at you.

Or is there some game that already implemented this? If so, please tell me, and I'll check it out


I believe there is a Sword/Samauri game called Kengo:Master of Bushido that you actually get to go theu dozens of different move, choose them and totally create your own style of fighting. and also manually block. I recommend it BTW. Now that EXACT game play wouldnt work for JKA but something like it based around lightsabers is.

And what TreeX said bout the Force powers is another good point.
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This comment was edited by Vasper Ba'xian on Jul 20 2005 04:45pm.

Jul 20 2005 04:36pm

Ecks
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 Ecks

They would have to change the engine entirely, methinks.
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Jul 20 2005 04:30pm

DarthMike
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 DarthMike

all this stuff sounds really cool..... but, you must realize that most of it wont happen. If they do make a JK4, I very much doubt the combat/gameplay style will have changed much. Maybe a change in timeline, but they wont make the saber be as you described it.
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Jul 20 2005 04:04pm

Krazzed
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 Krazzed

and fix the staff.....and add more customiztion options...update the graphics.....and put the time zone b4 episode 1 (like 100 years before)
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Jul 20 2005 02:33pm

Ecks
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 Ecks

I think there just should be the block button itself, so it tests twicth reflexes rather than hand-game coordination. So if a blaster bolt came at you, you'd have to press the block button at the right moment to deflect it back. And, like KOTOR 2, if you had a certain saber style on, like Shien, it would make the timing a bit easier, etc.

As for saber combat, one hit kills just do not work. As realistic as that may be, it just gets boring having to duel and not land any hits.

Story wise... I'd prefer it if it came after "The Unifying Force," so, after the Yuuzhan Vong attack. Having read ALLLLL the books lol, it gets kind of old filling in the plot holes with new books. We need to advance the storyline further. I want to see what happens to Jacen, Jaina, and Luke.
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Jul 20 2005 01:12pm

Nuebus
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 Nuebus

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Luke and Kyle are alive when the Yuuzhan Vong attack. That would be a pretty interesting story to implement.


way 2 b obvious bro, luke's ze one who actually ended the war. 2 bail hope there's a samurai game which u actually have 2 do all the manual blocking and atttacks, even blocking arrows because ur character's in a robe/ninja.

and 2 the actual post i reckon all those things would b awesum but like most ppl just dump force because it is 'unfair' in a duel they should make it so that force effects would b lubbed but notTHAT effective, i mean look at EP1 maul just shoves Obi at the end, instea dof just repeatitively shoving/lightning etc...

PS: also should have lightning counter wit the saber :D
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Jul 20 2005 11:32am

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

But how would you add manual blocking?
No one's fast enough to press the right combo of buttons if you see a swing coming at you.

Or is there some game that already implemented this? If so, please tell me, and I'll check it out ;)
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Jul 20 2005 08:12am

Azrael
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 Azrael

Luke and Kyle are alive when the Yuuzhan Vong attack. That would be a pretty interesting story to implement.

As for gameplay, I think it should have some adaptation to the Episode III game's combat system. Cause that lightsaber fighting was extremely accurate.
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Jul 20 2005 07:09am

SaZ
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 SaZ

for gameplay and such we had 999999x999999 threads. as for story related things...
well it should be something really new.
coz tavion is dead, desann is dead, jerec is long dead too.
the timeline change is not a must. i would like to see jedi academy and luke and OFCOURSE kyle once more :P but if somehow timeline change i want it to be with some academy , lots of friends, great feel of the force and shiny lightsaber :P
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This comment was edited by SaZ on Jul 20 2005 07:10am.

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