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Why do Jedi carry lightsabers?
Jul 25 2005 07:32pm

Ian Jandos
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Ian Jandos
Since we've determined who is the best saberist :D

I suppose a more fundamental question is in order.
Why do force savvy dudes, need light sabers?

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Sep 12 2005 01:43pm

AvaloN
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And that is why Anakin is truly the greatest Jedi of all time.


lol

Sep 12 2005 11:21am

ozzcoz
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And that is why Anakin is truly the greatest Jedi of all time.
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Sep 12 2005 12:57am

tarpman
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I know Horn's history. But his line, him and his son, Valin, lack TK abilites


TeamKilling? :eek:

Everyone knows a true Jedi's strength is his ability to kill his team members.
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Sep 04 2005 10:56am

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

LoL Telekinetic Abilities.
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Sep 03 2005 11:54pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

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I know Horn's history. But his line, him and his son, Valin, lack TK abilites


TeamKilling? :eek:
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Sep 03 2005 05:37pm

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

I know Horn's history. But his line, him and his son, Valin, lack TK abilites
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Aug 11 2005 09:43pm

Trad Redav
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 Trad Redav

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Something the Horn family Line lacked was Telekinetic abilites. So push/pull/throw wasn't an option for some Jedi.

Halcyon line- There were no Jedi Horns until Valin Halcyon was adopted by his father's best friend (after his father's death) and changed his name to Hal Horn. Hal then became the father of Corran...
And Corran is originally from the X-Wing series, the first four and eigth books (by Michael A. Stackpole and then goes on to I, Jedi also by him. He was a pilot in Rogue Squadron, took some time off to learn how to be a Jedi to rescue his wife, goes back to the squadron, and finally retires to become a jedi full-time when the treaty between the New Republic and what's left of the Empire (under pellaeon) was signed.
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This comment was edited by Trad Redav on Aug 11 2005 09:44pm.

Aug 04 2005 11:35pm

Ecks
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 Ecks

Another reason the saber is hard to control is because of the gyroscopic force it creates when moved. This is evident, for example, when Yoda draws his saber, and he appears to flourish it, twisting it with his wrist. This is actually just a way to compensate for the gyroscopic force that the lightsaber creates. So when Yoda draws the saber, he twirls it around a bit to get his senses used to the gyroscopic force of the saber.

Just a neat little tidbit. :)
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Aug 04 2005 10:13pm

El Vee For
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 El Vee For

when the Jedi first formed up blasters were somewhat of a novelty and melee weapons were most common, the "laser sword" already existed but was very difficult for a normal sentient to use since the blade had no weight it was very difficult to accurately judge the location of the blade while the hilt was in motion.

The need arose from the Jedi having to defend themselves from the forces of evil throughout the galaxy. Being beacons of light and honor the forces of evil were naturally drawn to them. (a positive charge always seeks a negative charge, the north pole of a magnet is drawn to the south pole, etc) As the forces of evil attacked they quickly learned that lightsaber was not to be trifled with and that in the hands of a Jedi the saber is to be feared. Blasters and melee weapons alike are useless against it.

Since the force allows the Jedi to really bond with his saber his need of comes from more than just self-defense it does indeed become the Jedi's friend and only posession.

Teh saber was then refined and used by the Jedi who could, through the force, ultimately control the blade flawlessly. It is commonly believed that energy is "alive", being alive the Jedi could bond with it. Early lightsaber energy cells were made from the flesh of living creatures. This is how the the Jedi can just will the saber to power on, he/she can feel the energy within the hilt and command it.

Paraphrased from: The Lightsaber Sourcebook (old school source book for Star Wars RPG)

Hope this helps

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Jul 27 2005 07:49am

Tyrant
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 Tyrant

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ya i agree with ecks. There philosophy is to only defend, and a lightsaber is like perfect for that since it can cut/block anything.
I agree.

Jul 27 2005 05:54am

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

Well the first Jedi used speacial swords in the begining. I believe with the evolution of the blaster, they Jedi had to upgrade their weapon.
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Jul 27 2005 05:27am

Nuebus
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 Nuebus

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A lightsaber is a Jedi's weapon. It's a symbol of all he's accomplished through his training (as it's creation is a mandatory part of becoming a knight), so it's only reasonable that they carry them.


we're questioning y they came in the 1st place. ur thinking already implanted rituals.
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Jul 27 2005 05:22am

Azrael
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 Azrael

A lightsaber is a Jedi's weapon. It's a symbol of all he's accomplished through his training (as it's creation is a mandatory part of becoming a knight), so it's only reasonable that they carry them.
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Jul 26 2005 09:19am

Nuebus
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 Nuebus

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They can't fight a Sith Lord without one. For example: An evil Sith Lord comes and wants to rule the galaxy, what can a Jedi do without his lightsaber? Force push him a couple of times and than get saberd :o And this is the proof that this is a dumb question(sorry man) What if 10 Droids would come and shoot the Jedi? A Jedi uses his lightsaber to block the shots, a Jedi without a lightsaber would just get shot in the head -.-


not necessarily, Corran Horn... well the entire Halcyon line had a great ability 2 absorb energy and driect it towards sumthin else. if a jedi had that ability all he had 2 do is absorb and throw the shots back as seen in Cloud City when Han Solo shoots at Vader.
Ok ok, that may be so...But still without a lightsaber Jedi couldn't do that much. Do you see Yoda fight Palpy without a lightsaber? And Jedi use there lightsaber for much more. Not all Jedi or Sith have the ability like Vader or that Corran Horn(who the hell is he, is he from the books never read one lol) to absorb energy. Jedi use lightsabers as cutting tools also.


yes corran horn is from a book, Jedi by Michael Stackpole.

anyway lightsabers r a jedi's weapon, not the definition of a jedi. a jedi would b sumwhat less effective but effective all the same without a lightsaber. u put a jedi in the middle of a battlefield with a blaster and u'd find they're by far superior 2 normal troops.

and should they fight a sith lord without a lightsaber a cortosis welded vibroblade would do just as well, even better actually if the sith lord wore cortosis armour because cortosis resists lightsaber... not vibroblades :D

so basically a lightsaber is just a symbolization, not a mandatory part of the jedi.

ze force is da Jedi!

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This comment was edited by Nuebus on Jul 26 2005 09:20am.

Jul 26 2005 08:33am

Tyrant
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 Tyrant

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They can't fight a Sith Lord without one. For example: An evil Sith Lord comes and wants to rule the galaxy, what can a Jedi do without his lightsaber? Force push him a couple of times and than get saberd :o And this is the proof that this is a dumb question(sorry man) What if 10 Droids would come and shoot the Jedi? A Jedi uses his lightsaber to block the shots, a Jedi without a lightsaber would just get shot in the head -.-


not necessarily, Corran Horn... well the entire Halcyon line had a great ability 2 absorb energy and driect it towards sumthin else. if a jedi had that ability all he had 2 do is absorb and throw the shots back as seen in Cloud City when Han Solo shoots at Vader.
Ok ok, that may be so...But still without a lightsaber Jedi couldn't do that much. Do you see Yoda fight Palpy without a lightsaber? And Jedi use there lightsaber for much more. Not all Jedi or Sith have the ability like Vader or that Corran Horn(who the hell is he, is he from the books never read one lol) to absorb energy. Jedi use lightsabers as cutting tools also.

This comment was edited by Tyrant on Jul 26 2005 08:40am.

Jul 26 2005 06:41am

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

Something the Horn family Line lacked was Telekinetic abilites. So push/pull/throw wasn't an option for some Jedi.
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Jul 26 2005 06:03am

DarthMike
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 DarthMike

ya i agree with ecks. There philosophy is to only defend, and a lightsaber is like perfect for that since it can cut/block anything.
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Jul 26 2005 05:53am

Nuebus
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 Nuebus

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They can't fight a Sith Lord without one. For example: An evil Sith Lord comes and wants to rule the galaxy, what can a Jedi do without his lightsaber? Force push him a couple of times and than get saberd :o And this is the proof that this is a dumb question(sorry man) What if 10 Droids would come and shoot the Jedi? A Jedi uses his lightsaber to block the shots, a Jedi without a lightsaber would just get shot in the head -.-


not necessarily, Corran Horn... well the entire Halcyon line had a great ability 2 absorb energy and driect it towards sumthin else. if a jedi had that ability all he had 2 do is absorb and throw the shots back as seen in Cloud City when Han Solo shoots at Vader.
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Jul 26 2005 12:34am

Ecks
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 Ecks

The point is that some people like swords, and others like guns. Swords have their advantages, and in this case, those advantages suit the style of the Jedi's thinking.
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Jul 25 2005 11:36pm

Phantom
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 Phantom

I would prefer my rocekt launcher to a saber anyday.
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Jul 25 2005 10:44pm

Tyrant
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 Tyrant

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:D

Well, drastically outnumbered any Jedi will get shot regardless...but an accurate evasive marksman can take out lots of enemies from a distance...so why can't that be a Jedi...they'd be better gun slingers, right?

In order to sword fight, you have to get close. Exposing yourself, yet enabling deadly blows up close.

Also...
I'm assuming that sith didn't appear until an initial defection to the dark side...hence saber dueling wasn't even conceived until after that time.

Not really... Remember in Episode 3 (Film just started) Anakin and Obi go to an elivator(I think it was one) and Obi and Ani start killing all the battle droids.

Jul 25 2005 10:26pm

Ian Jandos
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 Ian Jandos

:D

Well, drastically outnumbered any Jedi will get shot regardless...but an accurate evasive marksman can take out lots of enemies from a distance...so why can't that be a Jedi...they'd be better gun slingers, right?

In order to sword fight, you have to get close. Exposing yourself, yet enabling deadly blows up close.

Also...
I'm assuming that sith didn't appear until an initial defection to the dark side...hence saber dueling wasn't even conceived until after that time.


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Jul 25 2005 10:05pm

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

Would be cool if they could create a force bubble shield around their butt. Then when they had to deflect blaster fire they could just bend over and moon em!:D:D:D:D:D:D
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Jul 25 2005 09:34pm

DarthMike
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 DarthMike

so they can slice ppl into pieces thats why.
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Jul 25 2005 07:56pm

Tyrant
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 Tyrant

They can't fight a Sith Lord without one. For example: An evil Sith Lord comes and wants to rule the galaxy, what can a Jedi do without his lightsaber? Force push him a couple of times and than get saberd :o And this is the proof that this is a dumb question(sorry man) What if 10 Droids would come and shoot the Jedi? A Jedi uses his lightsaber to block the shots, a Jedi without a lightsaber would just get shot in the head -.-

This comment was edited by Tyrant on Jul 25 2005 08:05pm.

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