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Kotor 2 : Where Obsidian went wrong. *Spoilers*
Jul 31 2005 12:37pm

Gilan Jinn
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For starters , did someone got the holo of bastila/carth that T3 is carying inside his memory core. I mean , you need a high repair and computer skill to obtain the (mayby interesting) holo, and you can't expect to spend much of your skill points for repair and computer use.

2nd, at the end of the game you have a lot of unaswered questions (even when you get that last chance to talk to Kreia). For example, whats the faith of your crewmates (not their future), I mean what happened to them, were they on the Ebon Hawk when it crashed into the canyon on Malachor or did only some of them came along with you to Malachor.

3th, what took place in the few days/hours before you came to Peragus. How did Kreia got on the Ebon Hawk ? I read on another site that it might be possible that Revan went to the Unkown Reigons with only the Ebon Hawk , T3 and Hk-47 , and that when he got there he ordered the 2 droids T3 and Hk-47 to go back with the Ebon Hawk, but for what ? And that doesn't explain how Kreia got on board.

These are only some of the things where they went wrong , not to mention that some of the quests (HK-droid factory for example) and scenes were cut out.
I think they just wanted to bring the game on the market as fast as possible (even when it was not entierly finished in my opinion).
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This post was edited by Gilan Jinn on Aug 01 2005 04:17pm.

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Aug 01 2005 11:32am

SaZ
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 SaZ

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Thanks for clearing that out guys :).
Didn't knew about the deadline.


yep i still think its lucasarts fault :(
damn those guys! they are ruinin themselves!
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Aug 01 2005 08:51am

Nuebus
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and by the by i already made a topic which filled in a few gaps 2 wat SHOULD have happened, just search for it.

PS: clip a *SPOILERS* tag on for those who have no played/finished kotor 2
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Aug 01 2005 08:50am

Nuebus
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 Nuebus

LucasArt imbeciles...

anyway Bail hope u said revan discovered a place which was supa evil and u believe it was teh Trayus Academy, which got blown in2 bits in kotor 2 so it would leave no opening for kotor 3. the tru threat has yet 2 reveal itself but if u truly think about nothing in the Star Wars ranging from Yoda's birth and forward that says anything about a gap in history or a war of unparalled terror.

in the 1% chance that i am correct if u dun want spoilers dun look down.
























































so in MY theory was that revan found out about the yuuzan vong and set out 2 destroy them, my theory is that in kotor 3 and onward u would use a random character 2 assist revan in doing so, eventually there's a final confrontation blah blah where either a barrier between the star wars galaxy and the yuzan vong galaxy is set up OR the yuuzan vong was so smashed up by revan that it took them 4000 yrs 2 recouperate 2 invade again in LKuke Skywalker's timeline.
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Jul 31 2005 09:48pm

Gilan Jinn
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 Gilan Jinn

Thanks for clearing that out guys :).
Didn't knew about the deadline.
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Jul 31 2005 07:21pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

Actually if you do enough checking on the time period you'll find that only 100 or so jedi survived the jedi civil war. There were alot during the war but many were turned or died in the fighting.

The problems with the game were also not the fault of obsidian. They were the fault of Lucasarts setting an unrealistic deadline for them. Obsidian is not a company like bioware or SOE who are big enough and established enough to tell lucasarts the games not ready yeat and it needs to be delayed a bit longer. Lucasarts told obsidian they want the game out on a certain day and the content of the game suffered.
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Jul 31 2005 06:05pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

in kotor1 you are one of not so many jedi...
in just 3-5 years galaxy is crawling with them :eek:
so many jedi (force sensitive in this case) can only be born in like 500 years lol
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Jul 31 2005 04:32pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

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btw in kotor1 there were like not so many jedi.

Oh there were, but they were spread out through the entire universe battling the Sith I think.

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5 years seems like 500 years :D

what do you mean?
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Jul 31 2005 03:43pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

btw in kotor1 there were like not so many jedi.
how in the hell there were so many in that jedi civil war? like thousands lol
5 years seems like 500 years :D
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Jul 31 2005 03:17pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

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the only thing which bothered me was that even after the end nothing is clear.

True
The last cutscene with the ship flying away is nice, but doesn't answer any questions.
I'm begging for KOTOR 3 to be better.

When it gets in the stores, I'll wait for a while for other people to get it first. if they say it's the same as number two, then I won't be buying it.

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like where is revan?

I think that was kind of the point, because
1) if it was known, you'd have people going "Why didn't we meet Revan?"
2) it kind of adds to the story that you don't know.

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how bastilla managed to mantain her beauty even after so many years :P

... yeah, five years! :P
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Jul 31 2005 01:07pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

the only thing which bothered me was that even after the end nothing is clear.
i mean during whole game some things should have been clearer.
like where is revan? how bastilla managed to mantain her beauty even after so many years :P
etc.
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Jul 31 2005 12:44pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

1)
LucasArts gave Obsidian an impossible deadline for finishing the game, which made it obligatory to cut a lot of content from the game.

The content however is on the CD, it's present, and these people are working very hard to put the content back in.

Second: What happened was that Revan used T3 and HK-47 to accompany him and did send them back, because if anything went wrong, they woudl have to get help.
You see, Revan used to be the Dark Lord, and in his travels he discovered some really evil place (I think it was the Trayus Academy on Malachor V) and after his mind got destroyed, he had forgotten about it.
But one night he did remember and he knew he had to destroy that place, as it was a place of pure evil.
He went there and if he should fail, the droids would have to seek help.

It's unknown whether he failed or not ...
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