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KOTOR hints on future??? **some spoilers**
Aug 17 2005 08:36am

Vasper Ba'xian
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Vasper Ba'xian
Well since my mouse sucks I've been playin thru KOTOR2 again. Ok I know this takes place 5000 years before ANH. But, all thru the game your always hearing that Reven left, somewhere on the edge of the galaxy. He sensed something out there. A larger threat to the Republic. Which is most likely he left alot of the Republic ship yards intact while he attacked the Rep. So they would have defense resources. My question, or thought, whatever, is that it could possibley be linked to the NJO series.

The Yuuzhan Vong spent 100,000 years brossing the void between galaxies so whos to say they didnt lay in wait outside the galaxy. Scouting. In one of the books a very old Yuuzhan Vong skeleton is found by Ganner and Corran. So they had been watching that galaxy for a while. They had to map out an entire galaxy, learn language and cultures to send in operatives, such as Nom Anor.

I think it's possible.

Your thoughts?
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This post was edited by Vasper Ba'xian on Aug 19 2005 02:31am.

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Aug 20 2005 12:28pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

i guess i didnt have too much influence :P
even if she was totaly dark side :eek:
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Aug 20 2005 12:22pm

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

Brianna is the handmaiden
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Aug 20 2005 11:25am

SaZ
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well he gets influence in nar shadaa mostly ( i think) further more if u do something and some other char gets influence... well just save before goin through some special places and experiment. like removin some chars and only leaving the one you want to have more influence with.

btw wtf is brianna? :eek:
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Aug 20 2005 11:13am

Vasper Ba'xian
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I have probs getting influence with Bao Dur. After a while I cant get anything out of him period. How do u get more influence with him?
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Aug 20 2005 03:41am

Ecks
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 Ecks

K thx... cause I want an uber Jedi Guardian team lol... Bao-Dur, Brianna, and Tyr (main character lol). Gonna lay the beatdown on those Freedon Nadd punks. :P
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Aug 20 2005 12:54am

Nuebus
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lvl 18 for the last spar and visas gives u force sense power u can c ppl behind walls etc.
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Aug 19 2005 06:32pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

complete a planet.
after completing 0 planets u can spar with her once. after completing 1 planet u ca spar with her another time = 2 , and after completing 2 planets u can spar with her for the third time = 3 :P
anyway visas sux :D
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Aug 19 2005 05:44pm

Vasper Ba'xian
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wait a couple more lvls then try again.
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Aug 19 2005 02:50pm

Ecks
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 Ecks

Question - I've already got like uber influence with Visas, and I've already sparred with Handmaiden twice. BUT SHE F'IN REFUSES to spar with me again! It's so frustrating... We've both leveled up... is there a way to get her to spar with me a third time... or is it too late because I spoke with Visas? This is on a new game, Jedi Weapon Master.
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Aug 19 2005 10:38am

SaZ
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 SaZ

handmaiden looks cool when she turns to the dark side :)
beating the game as a jedi master is piece of cake - lots of force , it doesnt even matter what side of force u use - i spammed force lightning (opposite side of the force ;) )
and still i had like unlimited force :P
well and last boss is easy too :)
the first time u try to beat that boss it may seem its almost impossible but after beating kotor1 last boss with jedi consular i knew the trick :)

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Aug 19 2005 05:49am

Nuebus
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 Nuebus

bah nubbies :eek: now if u look about 15 lines down it'll be FULL of SPOILERSSSS so if u dun wanna c it scroll right past space in between teher and b4 message too.



































*SPOILERS*
alrighty the characters Atton, Bao-Dur, Mira, Handmaiden, Disciple can all become Jedi.

Atton - Jedi Sentinal
Bao Dur - Jedi Guardian
Mira - Jedi Sentinal
Handmaiden - Jedi Guardian
Disciple - Jedi COnsular

Atton u must have enuff influence and have met the 2 Unknown Twileks in the Refugee Sector on Nar Shadaa.

Bao Dur dun matter just get lotsa Influence.

Mira just get lotsa influence and go 2 the place in Nar Shadaa where Kreia 'opens ur eyes'

4 handmaiden u need 2 ignore the Miraluka until ur lvl 18 and have sparred wit teh handmaiden 3 times. dun worry on influence get it in between conversations. and leave her at her starting lvl b/c its hard 2 beat her when ur similar lvl and she has uber h2h/hp.

Disciple is just a conversation as soon as he joins ur party but there will b 1 bit of information he wont tell u... u need a tiny bit more influence.

and as the classes 1st time u play b a nub and pick Guardian, but the class u wanna b 2 know ur team best would b sentinal.

*SPOILERS*













































and in reply 2 the link from KOTOR 2 EP1-6 i believe the only link is when kreia speaks of teh death of the last tru mandalorian, Jango Fett.

spoilers enuff for ya? slap me if my post is too much spoiling:mad:
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Aug 19 2005 04:08am

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

*coughsurethingcough* ;)
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Aug 19 2005 03:16am

Ecks
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 Ecks

*cough* do you want me to tell you if Mira can become a Jedi? And coincidentally... how? :P
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Aug 19 2005 02:28am

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

yeah I was using Master Valor, Master Battle Med., and Jedi Masters get "inspire group" ability that adds to atk and damage. Add to that alot of persuasion ans wisdom and he was kickin butt. I even turned the Seer completey away from the dark side. Not sure if you have but it was a first for me. And unlocked atton as a Jedi Sent. :D, I have my whole team in the red right now. I have a feeling that Mira can be a Jedi. Since you bring those attuned to the force close to you, and Mira saif something about feeling the people on Nar Shadaa. I also got a line out about wanting to show her a few things. She said keep the Jedi training to my self. (I had low inlfuence)
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This comment was edited by Vasper Ba'xian on Aug 19 2005 02:33am.

Aug 19 2005 01:38am

Ecks
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 Ecks

Serious? Were you using any Force powers like Valor? Or was it all just base damage?

And how'd you beat the bosses?

As a Guardian at Onderon, I was slaying people with like two flurries with single saber. As a Sith Lord, I was massacring them with Force Crush... Never tried with a Jedi Master, so I wanna get some info on how one fights...
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This comment was edited by Ecks on Aug 19 2005 01:39am.

Aug 19 2005 12:36am

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

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To Vasper - What's it like beating the game on Jedi Master? I've played as Sith Lord and Jedi Weapon Master, but those are all easy. How would you use a Jedi Master in combat? Especially against bosses


Actually I had the most fun playing as a Jedi Master. I was doing insane damage by the time I got to Oneron. Used a staff and was getting triple hits all the time 40-60 a hit. plus you inspire the people around you so it fun.
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Aug 18 2005 10:48pm

Ecks
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 Ecks

To Vasper - What's it like beating the game on Jedi Master? I've played as Sith Lord and Jedi Weapon Master, but those are all easy. How would you use a Jedi Master in combat? Especially against bosses? :confused:
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Aug 18 2005 12:00pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

canderous ordo is mandalore :P

oops spoler :eek:
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Aug 18 2005 04:04am

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

I know there are some more important clue yet to be found. I played the game as a jedi master, this time I'll go Sith Lord and see. I need good influence with the HK and I can only do that by being sith.
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Aug 18 2005 02:33am

Ecks
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 Ecks

Kreia herself mentions repeatedly "the fringes of the ancient Sith Empire" and also continually refers a connection between it and Revan. Now, I'm not saying it's written in stone, but when somebody of that importance to the story gives that big of a hint... it's most likely what's going to happen next.

However, I've just replayed KOTOR 1 and 2, and your theory is still very plausible. While Kreia talks about the ancient Sith, the game itself mentions that Revan sensed something coerced the Mandalorians into attacking. As well, in KOTOR 1, as I said, Canderous noticed the coralskipper. So it is possible... although just that one reference isn't enough to persuade me. Perhaps if more clues are given.

As for T3 and HK... I'm pretty sure that the voice system is permanently locked. It'll probably come into play in KOTOR 3.
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Aug 18 2005 12:19am

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

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As for the Vong theory in itself, while it is an interesting one, I doubt it. The true Sith empire has absolutely no relation to Yuuzhan Vong. Kreia refers to the true Sith as a belief - most likely the original Sith Empire, the one that would later engage the Jedi in a hyperspace war. Yuuzhan Vong are extra-galactical, and I doubt they would have settled Korriban, or Malachor.


I wasn't saying that the Vong founded the Sith. Reven left known space after the war. He "went to the edge of the galaxy" to investigate something he believed a far greater threat than even the Sith. It was said that even while fighting the republic, he left many of it's ship yard intact so they would have a means of defending against it.

I'm not gonna stop playing it till I unlock all the movies. There is something I'm not getting out of T3 or the HK droid. It sounds as if I can find a way to unlock the nav computer. And near the end of my game, a glowy or holo-projection of Bastila was on my ship. But I couldn't speak to her, she just watched.
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This comment was edited by Vasper Ba'xian on Aug 18 2005 12:19am.

Aug 17 2005 10:22pm

Ecks
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 Ecks

The Yuuzhan Vong was mentioned in KOTOR - Canderous himself says he saw a wierdly shaped ship (a coralskipper) on one of his border runs.

As for the Vong theory in itself, while it is an interesting one, I doubt it. The true Sith empire has absolutely no relation to Yuuzhan Vong. Kreia refers to the true Sith as a belief - most likely the original Sith Empire, the one that would later engage the Jedi in a hyperspace war. Yuuzhan Vong are extra-galactical, and I doubt they would have settled Korriban, or Malachor.
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Aug 17 2005 09:01pm

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I heard ObsidianEnt was making KotOR III, so that should reveal some answers.


sweet dude i can't wait KOTOR1 was really good and im still playing KOTOR2 i can't wait for three
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Aug 17 2005 07:03pm

SaZ
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wait... who made kotor1 and 2 and wtf with obsidian? :P
everything is linked in star wars :)
like you are the only jedi in kotor2 but only because of your actions there will be jedi in future :)
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Aug 17 2005 06:46pm

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I heard ObsidianEnt was making KotOR III, so that should reveal some answers.

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