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Microsoft Owned Apple.
Aug 18 2005 07:56pm

Sared
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OOOOHHHH MYY GOD!!!

Steve jobs has to be fuming. Again I ask, can we say 'OWNED'?
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Aug 22 2005 10:16pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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Severus, I'd get another OS if you could. ME was a joke, MS actually realized that and stopped marketing it soon after it was released. Its not even supported by MS either. Just for your FYI!;)

oh I know ...
I switched to XP about three quarters of a year ago :)
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Aug 22 2005 10:08pm

Jedifire_Mintaka
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Severus, I'd get another OS if you could. ME was a joke, MS actually realized that and stopped marketing it soon after it was released. Its not even supported by MS either. Just for your FYI!;)
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Aug 22 2005 08:10pm

(Jedi)Obi-JK
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seriously guys, use your heads. If Microsoft WANTED to, the could make a perfect flawless operating system, but if they did, where would the money come from??? they are just greedy f**kers :mad:


This is simply not true. There is no perfect operating system, and their never will be. All software has bugs.
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Aug 22 2005 12:58am

Sared
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 Sared

No, because then Customer Support jobs in India would be lost.
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Aug 22 2005 12:49am

Esta
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 Esta

..Wouldn't better operating systems make the world go round a little more smoothly?
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Aug 22 2005 12:44am

Buzz
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seriously guys, use your heads. If Microsoft WANTED to, the could make a perfect flawless operating system, but if they did, where would the money come from??? they are just greedy f**kers :mad:


Greed is good. It makes the world go round. It drives capitalism. And its the reasons companies try to get the consumers to purchase their products so they make the profits. Without greed and the incentive for profit nothing would improve and civilization would stagnate.
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Aug 22 2005 12:41am

Monteeeeeee
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 Monteeeeeee

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seriously guys, use your heads. If Microsoft WANTED to, the could make a perfect flawless operating system, but if they did, where would the money come from??? they are just greedy f**kers :mad:


Scientists could probably cure Cancer and most dieases but the money isnt in the cure its in the drugs.
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Aug 22 2005 12:33am

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seriously guys, use your heads. If Microsoft WANTED to, the could make a perfect flawless operating system, but if they did, where would the money come from??? they are just greedy f**kers :mad:
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Aug 21 2005 10:25pm

Ra
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Wow, maybe with the cash Bill Gates can improve on the @%£^ computers he makes :D

did he use those billions he made from Windows and Office (and what-have-you) to make better stuff?


Point taken
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Aug 21 2005 10:19pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

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Wow, maybe with the cash Bill Gates can improve on the @%£^ computers he makes :D

did he use those billions he made from Windows and Office (and what-have-you) to make better stuff?

I mean, sure XP is a step in the good direction already, but ME was to cry for (believe me I know ... I used it for 2.5 years)
Only now, with Vista (Longhorn) they seem to be making good choices.
I hope it is as good as is said and everything ...
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Aug 21 2005 10:12pm

Ra
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 Ra

Wow, maybe with the cash Bill Gates can improve on the @%£^ computers he makes :D
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Aug 21 2005 09:49pm

Monteeeeeee
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No, you started talking about Boeing, I just slipped in a sidenotice. American companies, eh? They're multinational, it affects more than just the US, hence the 'world' part. And why would I refute the crap you said? I'm not naïve, I know they get funding from the French government, but that doesn't mean they aren't a company. And when you start talking about Enron, it isn't my responsibility to know what you're talking about beforehand, it's your responsibility to explain what that is, and why you mentioned it.

I replied to what I THINK was the content of your post, it wasn't easy to read so I guessed, might be a bit off.
You brought up Airbus my friend. You compared it to Boeing. Boeing is not subsidised or supported by the US Government. Boeing does have military contracts, but as you might imagine our government doesn't pay its bills on time either.

You don't have enuf information to support your arguement and I don't much care for being told "look beyond my nosetip" when the person I am speaking with doesn't do the same. I like to practice what I preach, you aren't required to do what I do but it is good advice no matter who says it.

This is a civil chat Dice, the post I deleted wasn't totally appropriate but the facts are the same.

Skjott I Apologize that I assumed you would know more about a company that you brought up and into a post concerning American companies. Although Boeing does not hold a worldwide Monopoly on commercial aircraft manufacture it does in the states. This is allowed because the purchased and squeezed out companies were going to bankrupt eventually anyways.

Airbus has no competition. This is true because the company has no bills, no debt, even after 9-11 they didn't slow production or do mass lay offs even though Aircraft orders across the board fell sharply.

Enron is an american company that practiced extremely bad accounting to make them look more valuable they were. When this was discovered tens of thousands of people were adversely affected including the absolute loss of retirement funds, lost jobs, a blue chip stock that fell to nothing in days causing the loss of Billions of dollars to the consumer and government alike.

You and I have no problem with each other, I have no harsh feelings over this, I am a smart @$$ and I won't be anything that I am not. Expecially in a forum. "Chuckles" is a term of endearment, you are someone that has made me laugh.



lol i like you already :P
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Aug 21 2005 09:09pm

El Vee For
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 El Vee For

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No, you started talking about Boeing, I just slipped in a sidenotice. American companies, eh? They're multinational, it affects more than just the US, hence the 'world' part. And why would I refute the crap you said? I'm not naïve, I know they get funding from the French government, but that doesn't mean they aren't a company. And when you start talking about Enron, it isn't my responsibility to know what you're talking about beforehand, it's your responsibility to explain what that is, and why you mentioned it.

I replied to what I THINK was the content of your post, it wasn't easy to read so I guessed, might be a bit off.
You brought up Airbus my friend. You compared it to Boeing. Boeing is not subsidised or supported by the US Government. Boeing does have military contracts, but as you might imagine our government doesn't pay its bills on time either.

You don't have enuf information to support your arguement and I don't much care for being told "look beyond my nosetip" when the person I am speaking with doesn't do the same. I like to practice what I preach, you aren't required to do what I do but it is good advice no matter who says it.

This is a civil chat Dice, the post I deleted wasn't totally appropriate but the facts are the same.

Skjott I Apologize that I assumed you would know more about a company that you brought up and into a post concerning American companies. Although Boeing does not hold a worldwide Monopoly on commercial aircraft manufacture it does in the states. This is allowed because the purchased and squeezed out companies were going to bankrupt eventually anyways.

Airbus has no competition. This is true because the company has no bills, no debt, even after 9-11 they didn't slow production or do mass lay offs even though Aircraft orders across the board fell sharply.

Enron is an american company that practiced extremely bad accounting to make them look more valuable they were. When this was discovered tens of thousands of people were adversely affected including the absolute loss of retirement funds, lost jobs, a blue chip stock that fell to nothing in days causing the loss of Billions of dollars to the consumer and government alike.

You and I have no problem with each other, I have no harsh feelings over this, I am a smart @$$ and I won't be anything that I am not. Expecially in a forum. "Chuckles" is a term of endearment, you are someone that has made me laugh.
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This comment was edited by El Vee For on Aug 21 2005 09:11pm.

Aug 21 2005 01:28am

Dicemaster
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Lets calm down and keep this civil guys.
El Vee for, Remeber that the JA is multinational. Not everyone has heard of Enron, I imagine people in Europe could care less.
-Dice
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Aug 21 2005 12:17am

Jacen Aratan
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No, you started talking about Boeing, I just slipped in a sidenotice. American companies, eh? They're multinational, it affects more than just the US, hence the 'world' part. And why would I refute the crap you said? I'm not naïve, I know they get funding from the French government, but that doesn't mean they aren't a company. And when you start talking about Enron, it isn't my responsibility to know what you're talking about beforehand, it's your responsibility to explain what that is, and why you mentioned it.

I replied to what I THINK was the content of your post, it wasn't easy to read so I guessed, might be a bit off.

Aug 20 2005 10:58am

Jacen Aratan
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I'd just like to point out that Boeing do not have a monopoly, rather it's a duopoly - know a little company called Airbus?
LOL I was waiting for this, Airbus. Airbus is a joke that has never turned a profit, nor do they need to. They are subsidised by the French Governement, they don't answer to stock holders and have unlimited funds. They are not a company, they are a division of the French Aironautical Agency, not sure the name but its like the French NASA. Nice attempt though. Check out thier homepage (google = Airbus) they don't have an financial statements, no investor info and thier orders vs deliveries page is the worst math ever, Enron could count better than these people!!

I worked at Boeing, that doesn't mean I know all just more than most, and Airbus is the only competition Boeing has. It is a worthy competitor that would have gone out of business long ago if it were for French taxpayers money.

EDIT: Airbus has no manufacturing or business presence in the United States and thus the American rules of Anti-Trust do not apply, Boeing = Monopoly on high altitude high capacity Commercial Aircraft. (PERIOD)


Look beyond your nosetip, why the hell would I need to talk about American monopolies? I was referring to the *world*. And, uh, Boeing get just as much governmental support... it's just indirect, through the military. And who the hell is Enron?

Aug 20 2005 12:12am

Mreoton
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b) MS does nothing. Or perhaps even drops their patent application having scored their point in proving they are the superior company business wise. Might improve MS stocks, more likely hurt Apple stocks as they show a rather lacklustre way of doing business. Shareholders are generally not impressed when these things happen.


Oh! Oh! Thats the best one for me. As much as everyone hates M$....cmon Apple is much worse :P theyve subjected us to too much of their "inovated" way of thinking.......oh and theyre retards.

Aug 20 2005 12:08am

DarthMike
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Apple keeps making iPods.
Apple doesn't pay MS a red cent.

Now there are two possible paths:
a) MS tries to enforce their patent and claim their royalties plus damages. That would be interesting, however it is unlikely MS could uphold the patent application, and if they tried it would gain them a pretty bad reputation to be honest.

b) MS does nothing. Or perhaps even drops their patent application having scored their point in proving they are the superior company business wise. Might improve MS stocks, more likely hurt Apple stocks as they show a rather lacklustre way of doing business. Shareholders are generally not impressed when these things happen.
Microsoft already has a pretty bad reputation. If fact, they have a down right awful reputation, so i dont think they care too much about that. They will surely do option A.
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This comment was edited by DarthMike on Aug 20 2005 12:11am.

Aug 19 2005 09:46pm

El Vee For
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 El Vee For

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Vista IS Longhorn..
I concur google is the salvation for those seeking knowledge
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This comment was edited by El Vee For on Aug 19 2005 09:47pm.

Aug 19 2005 09:24pm

El Vee For
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 El Vee For

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I'd just like to point out that Boeing do not have a monopoly, rather it's a duopoly - know a little company called Airbus?
LOL I was waiting for this, Airbus. Airbus is a joke that has never turned a profit, nor do they need to. They are subsidised by the French Governement, they don't answer to stock holders and have unlimited funds. They are not a company, they are a division of the French Aironautical Agency, not sure the name but its like the French NASA. Nice attempt though. Check out thier homepage (google = Airbus) they don't have an financial statements, no investor info and thier orders vs deliveries page is the worst math ever, Enron could count better than these people!!

I worked at Boeing, that doesn't mean I know all just more than most, and Airbus is the only competition Boeing has. It is a worthy competitor that would have gone out of business long ago if it were for French taxpayers money.

EDIT: Airbus has no manufacturing or business presence in the United States and thus the American rules of Anti-Trust do not apply, Boeing = Monopoly on high altitude high capacity Commercial Aircraft. (PERIOD)
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This comment was edited by El Vee For on Aug 19 2005 10:32pm.

Aug 19 2005 08:12pm

Jacen Aratan
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You want an example, ever heard of Boeing Airplane Company? They are the only company in North America that continues to build commercial airliners, thus making them a Monopoly. They closed down Lockheeds commercial program, they bought out McDonell Douglas and squeezed out General Dynamics aswell. If it weren't for military contracts the above companies would be history.


I'd just like to point out that Boeing do not have a monopoly, rather it's a duopoly - know a little company called Airbus?

This comment was edited by Jacen Aratan on Aug 19 2005 08:13pm.

Aug 19 2005 07:38pm

El Vee For
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 El Vee For

No doubt Dice.

How much do you think Microsoft will charge per unit once the patent is granted? Oh and yes these charges can be retroactive...

Enuf to bankrupt the company, lets hope not.
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Aug 19 2005 07:16pm

Dicemaster
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Read that article carefully. It says they put a patent on one part of the iPod. That means they could have put a patetent on the port where the cord plugs in, or the battery or something like that. I don't think its going to be as big of a win as ppl think. Because its not like they patetend the entire iPod.
(like i said, read carefully)


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Apple took too long to file a patent ON PART of its blockbuster iPod music players, so Microsoft jumped in and beat Apple to it.

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Aug 19 2005 07:09pm

El Vee For
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next from Microsoft we should see a Windows adaptation of Linux. Won't that be grand!

http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/ :D
Makes you ill don't it!

In the end this all about Money and Politics and how closely related the two are. Politics or "the creation of policy" is driven by money. As long as the gov gets its cut there isn't much to say about it.

I certainly don't think it is fair for small companies to get squeezed out or bankrupted by bigger conglom's but just cuz I don't like it doesn't mean its gonna stop.

Microsoft will, someday, be the only provider of OS for puters, then after they get comfortable with that someone will come along with a better way and knock them off. Its the nature of capitalism.
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Aug 19 2005 06:20pm

tarpman
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next from Microsoft we should see a Windows adaptation of Linux. Won't that be grand!

http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/ :D
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