| A Theory for all you Harry Potter Fans *spoilers* | |
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Phantom - Student  |
This could sound crazy, but humor me. If you read the 6th book then you know what a horcuxe is. I have this theory that when Volodemort went to kill Harry and faild he performed a horcuxe on Harry, leaving a part of his soul inside Harry's scar. Thats why Harry recived all of Volodemorts powers, like the power to talk to snakes, the power to sence him when his scar hurt, and the power to get inside Volodemorts head. I want to know what you guys think about this. _______________ -Phantom Ex-Master to Threat. Proud owner of Sazabi's 1500th comment! And Threats 50th comment "Insanity: a perfect rational adjustment to an insane world" |
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Mic Den Octela - Student 
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Or maybe she jus couldn't be bothered.  _______________ -Padawan of Virtue -Brother of Menaxia, *|irael, Krynn Adept, Majno, Ris Win Juljul, DaMi3N, Beowulf, Dash Starlight, Carrock and Yuken Zalak Bartender at Munes bar. Sir Mic of Nippledom! Proudly beating Wang, since '07. (Crackdown) |
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Raziel Anjelis - Student 
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I think J.K.Rowling is trying to get readers to imagine things, using the plotholes to 'kickstart the thinking'. Like film thrillers, the mind examines different avenues for the film to finish, so Rowling is saying 'think of plots for yourself, I've set the baseline, think of some things.' _______________ Proud owner of El Vee For's 200th Comment, and Wicek's 2600th comment  DaMi3N's 400th, Trad Redav's 666th.
This comment was edited by Raziel Anjelis on Sep 16 2005 12:15am. |
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Mic Den Octela - Student
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I wonder if J K Rowling was thinking any of this while she was "rushing" through that last book. Come on, don't tell me she wrote the 6th book as well as she wrote the others.. all the other books gave you enough description so that you wouldn't need to read any of the other books.. however, if you read the 6th book before any of the others you'd be like "WTF???!!" All i can say is "plot-holes" Rant over If your confused as to what happened.. read the book again. _______________ -Padawan of Virtue -Brother of Menaxia, *|irael, Krynn Adept, Majno, Ris Win Juljul, DaMi3N, Beowulf, Dash Starlight, Carrock and Yuken Zalak Bartender at Munes bar. Sir Mic of Nippledom! Proudly beating Wang, since '07. (Crackdown) This comment was edited by Mic Den Octela on Sep 15 2005 10:06pm. |
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Phantom - Student 
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My point isnt that Volodemort doest knnow how to kill Harry its that he only herd the portion that repeated "A child will be born with the ability to destroy the dark lord" Only the last line says that Volodemort can also destroy Harry. So he doesnt know that acctually can destroy him. _______________ -Phantom Ex-Master to Threat. Proud owner of Sazabi's 1500th comment! And Threats 50th comment "Insanity: a perfect rational adjustment to an insane world" |
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Ventrel - Student 
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They only said harry or voldemort have to kill each other, not that he will kill voldemort. Although tom probably will die... you never know with Mrs. Rowling. There are lots of theories and hey snape might even be good. Read up on the www.mugglenet.com (a site which updates with harry potter news almost daily) forums for somemore insight. I think that dumbledore is dead and that harry's scar is not a horcruxe.... that would make for a lame ending but **MINOR SPOILER OF 7th BOOK** the last word of the 7th book is "scar". Perhaps the scar might be a horcruxe, I think it isnt. This comment was edited by Ventrel on Sep 07 2005 05:05am. |
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Raziel Anjelis - Student
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and the prophecy was half-heard, Voldemort doesn't know how to destroy harry  _______________ Proud owner of El Vee For's 200th Comment, and Wicek's 2600th comment DaMi3N's 400th, Trad Redav's 666th.
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DJK - Student 
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So what if he was ment to destroy voldemort? that doesnt mean he can die AFTER. |
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Phantom - Student
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Harry cant kill himself since he is the one to kill Volodemort. He will proably extract the soul and then kill it. _______________ -Phantom Ex-Master to Threat. Proud owner of Sazabi's 1500th comment! And Threats 50th comment "Insanity: a perfect rational adjustment to an insane world" |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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Quote: and by the way, it's Tom Riddle lol! my mistake ... by the way I just thought of something. Voldemort will be immortal thanks to those Horcruxes. Destroying the Horcruxes will only make him mortal again. It won't kill him per se. So, I don't think Harry will have to kill himself ... _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Strider - Student 
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Didn't someone, I believe Neville, fall from a window when they were younger and live because of some magic or something. Maybe same thing happened to him? _______________ .: Proud Padawan of Dane |
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Phantom - Student 
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That does make sence raz but with the wizerding world anything can happen. Who knows what if they placed a invisable mattress over the spot where dumbeldor fell? And he makes good points about the book but seriously that guy has too much time on his hands lol _______________ -Phantom Ex-Master to Threat. Proud owner of Sazabi's 1500th comment! And Threats 50th comment "Insanity: a perfect rational adjustment to an insane world" |
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Raziel Anjelis - Student
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That guy seems a bit silly, I mean he seems to have explored all avenues of magically 'dying', but if you recall, Dumbledore was flung over the battlements by Snapes spell. He hasn't taken simple physics and biology into account. Hogwarts has got to be higher than 40ft, so even if he did survive the spell, the fall to the ground would definitely have killed him. Wizard or no, he is still subject to the forces. _______________ Proud owner of El Vee For's 200th Comment, and Wicek's 2600th comment DaMi3N's 400th, Trad Redav's 666th.
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Phantom - Student
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It does seem like a pretty obvious clue. And that dumbeldorisnot dead guy really got me going. Never looked into it like that much. And I dont think arogance played a factor, it was a porphecy meaning that someone saw the futer and the futer cannot be change no matter how much we would like it to. _______________ -Phantom Ex-Master to Threat. Proud owner of Sazabi's 1500th comment! And Threats 50th comment "Insanity: a perfect rational adjustment to an insane world" |
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DarthMike - Student 
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nah it's too obvious of a clue, J.K. would never make it that easy. _______________ "You can't get Windows on a Mac because the drivers are not compatible." --- Some dude from the Geek Squad "So if you have quad-core, you have four times the RAM, right?" --- Some guy at Best Buy |
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Raziel Anjelis - Student 
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rofl even if avada kedavra didn't kill him, gravity would have done! and by the way, it's Tom Riddle lol! _______________ Proud owner of El Vee For's 200th Comment, and Wicek's 2600th comment DaMi3N's 400th, Trad Redav's 666th.
This comment was edited by Raziel Anjelis on Sep 01 2005 09:06pm. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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actually, first of all I think you should read this site: Http://www.dumbledoreisnotdead.com. It has some very nice theories actually backed up by what J.K. Rowling says in her books. It's a pretty impressive site. Next, like Dumbledore said somewhere: To put a Horcrux into a living thing would be most unwise (he says it to Harry after revealing that Nagini (the snake) is probably the last). Quote: So he figured he had absolutley no chance at all in beating Harry. Martin Riddle (good ol' Voldemort) was as arrogant as you could be, thinking he was most powerful and everything ... I don't think he figures he can't defeat a baby. It's of course possible, no doubt there Oh, and the whole Harry-survived-thingie is simply to show that Martin was wrong after all. In one of those flashbacks in Dumbledore's office, you see Martin talking about that he found no proof that Love is the strongest magic. But afterall, Harry's life was saved by love, proving that Love is indeed the oldest and strongest magic (which he (Martin) finally admits in Goblet-of-Fire) I think we don't need to search for much actually. The last book will probably contain someone's death, quite possibly even Harry's. But I was thinking something along the lines of this: Harry, Ron and Hermione get trapped somewhere with Voldemort. They all try to duel him. - Ron or Hermione gets killed by Voldemort in front of Harry who goes into some rage and suddenly becomes very powerful. He destroys Voldemort but destroys himself with it. By blowing something up or whatever ... it's a nice sacrifice  _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Phantom - Student
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What hand thing? You mean dumbeldoors black hand? That happened when Dumbeldoor went after a Horacrux hidden inside his grandfathers ring. _______________ -Phantom Ex-Master to Threat. Proud owner of Sazabi's 1500th comment! And Threats 50th comment "Insanity: a perfect rational adjustment to an insane world" |
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SaZ - Student 
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the harry potter story has to end someday anyway... if he will die... well that will prevent others (even fans ) from creating sequels . _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Mindrith Pride - Student 
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Quote: Exactly!!!!!!!!!1oneone Thats what I've been telling people. Voldemort Din't try to kill Potter. He knew that if the kiddo was supposed to destroy him one day he might aswell take him with him. So what he did was perfom alittle spell making harry a walking Horcroxus. Unfortunativ its probably not so nice when doing it on a living creature so it might of hurt Voldemort alot... Well, maybe almost killing him Anyway, To kill voldemort, harry have to kill himself. There you have it, harry dies! yay! never liked him anyway xD _______________ [proud owner of talions 200th, 700th,1111th coment AND 1400th , DJK's 3001th coment! , saz's 400th coment! liso's 800th coment! Kitmitsu Aratan's 1200th comment! Cau's 100th comeent, Alexander's (aka CC) 210th, 888th and 2200th comments! Moriarti's 800th comment , Piccolo's 2000th comment! lirael's 505th comment , Quom Farlance's 120th comment, Alexander's 1800th comment , Eica's 1400th comment , Wicek's 3200th comment lady C's 999th comment, Echuu's 1100th comment, Takaru's 325th and 400th comment, Redeye's 200th comment picc's 3600th comment, Ostith's 50th comment, Elmo's 555th comment] |
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Eica - Student 
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Don't know why, but I doubt it, I still want that whole hand thing explained for me  _______________ Former padawan of RoseRed |
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Phantom - Student
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Raz the dementors kiss could do it but I doubt it. It seems the dementors kiss sucks out your soul and kills out I dont think Volodemort would allow a dementor to handel his soul one way or another. Dumbeldor did say that but he was wrong about Snape why couldnt he be wrong about this? And after all it wasnt like he was there when it happened and like I said before snape only herd the first half of the porphecy which said only this: "The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approches... Born to those who have thriced defied him, born as the seventh month dies... And the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he will have the power the Dark Lord knows not..." At least thats as much as I think he herd. In that case their was not a line in their that said that the Dark Lord would have to the power to destroy Harry. So beliveing that he has no chance to defeat Harry he puts his soul into Harry to know where he is. Or this could have happened: Voldemort enters and kills Harry's parents. Attempts to kill Harry but fails. So he does a horcurx in a attempt to when he one day returns find a way to kill Harry. Or J.K. Rowling can find a really weird way to pull this off which of coures is why we all love these books. _______________ -Phantom Ex-Master to Threat. Proud owner of Sazabi's 1500th comment! And Threats 50th comment "Insanity: a perfect rational adjustment to an insane world" |
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Raziel Anjelis - Student
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Didn't Dumbledore say Harry was a walking example of Avada Kedavra failing to kill? I wonder if the Dementor's Kiss will play a part in what Phantom just said.... _______________ Proud owner of El Vee For's 200th Comment, and Wicek's 2600th comment DaMi3N's 400th, Trad Redav's 666th.
This comment was edited by Raziel Anjelis on Sep 01 2005 11:16am. |
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Phantom - Student
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DJK you know there has to be a way to extract the soul out of the object otherwise the spell would server no purpose so Harry doenst have to kill himself you evil person, leting our beloved hairy pothead die like that lol. And you reminded me of something I missed. Snape only told Volodemort of FIRST HALF of the propehcy. So what your saying actually make sence Volodemort puts a horcuxes on Harry since he didnt know that last line of the prophecy saying "Neither can live if the other survies". Think about it... All Volodemort new was that "A child will be born with the power to destroy the Dark Lord". So he figured he had absolutley no chance at all in beating Harry. _______________ -Phantom Ex-Master to Threat. Proud owner of Sazabi's 1500th comment! And Threats 50th comment "Insanity: a perfect rational adjustment to an insane world" This comment was edited by Phantom on Sep 01 2005 02:26am. |
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DJK - Student 
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Exactly!!!!!!!!!1oneone Thats what I've been telling people. Voldemort Din't try to kill Potter. He knew that if the kiddo was supposed to destroy him one day he might aswell take him with him. So what he did was perfom alittle spell making harry a walking Horcroxus. Unfortunativ its probably not so nice when doing it on a living creature so it might of hurt Voldemort alot... Well, maybe almost killing him Anyway, To kill voldemort, harry have to kill himself. There you have it, harry dies! |
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Strider - Student 
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I think you ruined the entire book for me! lol j/k Yah, I'd say that prolly is what is going to happen. Good theory mate _______________ .: Proud Padawan of Dane |
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