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(Jedi)Obi-JK - Student  |
So The PS3 and the Xbox 360 are both highly proud of the fact their systems will support HD. With to my knowledge both systems being able to output games at 1080p. This will make for very very very pretty games, I will not deny that. But here is my question, who here has an HDTV? How many people think they will have one within the next 5 years? (obviously most people won't know for sure, but if you are fairly certain you either will or won't let us know) What I am really getting at in a round about way is that the Nintendo Revolution is taking a lot of crap from people about only supporting 480p. Is it really that big of a deal to people? _______________ Silent Bob (Kevin Smith): You know, there's a million fine looking women in the world, dude. But they don't all bring you lasagna at work. Most of 'em just cheat on you. -Steve (Obi) |
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tarpman - The Tarped Avenger 
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Quote: But when playing doom 3, or Half Life 2. Were you ever going *BLAM BLAM* Oooh, check dem maaaaad graphics mate!! Yes: the first time I saw water in Half-Life 2. Also the second and third times. But yeah, that's about it. The last monitor I purchased was the one that came with my first computer (a 486/DX@100MHz) back in '93, which I'm using at this very moment (the monitor, not the computer  ). The last TV my family bought was in '92.Gameplay FTW. _______________ Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time. |
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Mic Den Octela - Student 
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Meh, games are games no matter what you play them on. You have to be real fussy to be arsed (forgive me  ) about the graphics so much that you turn tail and run. If your un-happy with it not reaching its full graphical potential, either don't play it or do something about it. In any case, consoles and PCs have they're own good points and bad points. Remember they both come from the same roots. I like a bit of good graphics. But when playing doom 3, or Half Life 2. Were you ever going *BLAM BLAM* Oooh, check dem maaaaad graphics mate!! I hope not. Instead I hope you were focusing on the game-play. If a games got great graphics but absolutely no playability then whats gonna while away those hours? I still play Deus Ex 1 and loads of other low graphics games. Not that i don't have a choice, im just more lenient towards games with more life and fun than realistic looking graphics. Conclusion: I'd play a 2d shoot 'em up with graphics like Redneck Rampage or Shadow Warrior (to name a few) if i knew that the game would be great to play. And so the answer is no, im not bothered about how good the graphics are on the next-gen consoles.. nor will i be on the consoles after.. and the consoles after that. Considering my brain hasn't melted by that time!  Rant over. _______________ -Padawan of Virtue -Brother of Menaxia, *|irael, Krynn Adept, Majno, Ris Win Juljul, DaMi3N, Beowulf, Dash Starlight, Carrock and Yuken Zalak Bartender at Munes bar. Sir Mic of Nippledom! Proudly beating Wang, since '07. (Crackdown) This comment was edited by Mic Den Octela on Sep 20 2005 01:34am. |
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DarthMike - Student 
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Quote: these are games that have come to console recontly or not yet, while theyve been on pc for OVER a year. There are plenty of games that you can get for a console but not on a PC. _______________ "You can't get Windows on a Mac because the drivers are not compatible." --- Some dude from the Geek Squad "So if you have quad-core, you have four times the RAM, right?" --- Some guy at Best Buy |
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Orion - Retired 
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Quote: the gpus arte not as powerful as the latest gpus for computers, give me a break. I realize console companies take a hit on the machines, but are you telling me that a console has the same rendering power as my 600 dollar graphics card? I forget which one it is, but one oif these noew console's gpu is based off of the latest radeon gpu chipset, however, its memory and pixel piplelines have been scalled back by something like 50 percent. Look at the console version of doom 3 or hl2, ive seen trailers for both of them, and there is quite a decrease in graphics quality, not to mention, these are games that have come to console recontly or not yet, while theyve been on pc for OVER a year. Uh the console version of hl2 and d3 are on hardware thats 5 years old.. the new consoles the PS2 and X360 have GPUS nearly as powerful as the lastet generation of PC cards. Go read the articles about them on anandtech.com or tomshardware. or Go find hte spec sheets on some hardware site. Though the memory is quite limited compared to the new cards, though the ps3 has 256mb dedicated to video ram there is no 512mb memory dedicated to graphics on this generation of hardware.. the x360 has 512mb of shared memory for both video and system. _______________ When a Man lies he murder's some part of the world. These are the pale deaths which men misscall there lives. All this I cannot bear to witness any longer. Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home? -Cliff Burton Owner of Smily's 1900th comment | <Lady_Catherine> i love your sexy white socks! | (Lady_Catherine) i adore u! | (Lady_Catherine) onion (Lady_Catherine) i lub u This comment was edited by Orion on Sep 19 2005 06:39pm. |
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Ulic Belouve - Student 
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To answer the maim point of this thread: I do have an HDTV. Been waiting a long time to get some game sthat take advantage of it. There are a couple of reasons why I like consoles better than PCs. My opinions. I also have reasons why PCs are better than consoles. One: Hardware simplicity. I hate when Windows craps out or my HDD is on the fritz or my video card is overheating, etc. Sometimes it is a chore to get my computer running the games right. Like I install some "Windows Updates" and my game doesn't run right. The console: it's this....open drive, insert game, play. Easy to transport games/consoles. If I want to show someone a kickass game on PC, I can either bring the game, install it on their computer, switch through the CDs, and finally get it loaded (taking up a couple gigs on their hard drive). Or, I have to lug the computer around. The console, I can just take my game CD, and even if I wanted to have MY save games, either take the memory card too. Worst case senario, I have to take my console with me. For me, lugging an XBOX to my parents or my fiancee's is better than lugging the computer around. I think the real perk for me is just the ease of use. I fix omputers all day for a living. I don't want to #@*k with one when I come home. I want to open console, insert game, blow the crap out of stuff. If blowing the crap out of stuff can be done at 1080i, then so be it. Edit: and for the record, my PC outputs via the costly and nifty DVI cord to my 42" LCD HDTV. I am writing on that now. Games do look a-ma-zing on it (and DVDs too). So PC wins that round for now. That's my take on it. Performance, yes, I like the PC better for that. Nothing tops some of the graphics that PCs will do. And some games are better with keyboard and mouse (like Morrowind and the upcoming Oblivion). Others are better on the console (like racing games...try playing those with a keyboard/mouse....or even a gamepad for the PC. If I'm going to drop $80 on a GOOD gamepad, I might as well just stick with the console). So, things on either side. Hi-Def will rock for the XBOX. I am looking forward to it. _______________ Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. This comment was edited by Ulic Belouve on Sep 19 2005 05:37am. |
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Bo - Student 
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the gpus arte not as powerful as the latest gpus for computers, give me a break. I realize console companies take a hit on the machines, but are you telling me that a console has the same rendering power as my 600 dollar graphics card? I forget which one it is, but one oif these noew console's gpu is based off of the latest radeon gpu chipset, however, its memory and pixel piplelines have been scalled back by something like 50 percent. Look at the console version of doom 3 or hl2, ive seen trailers for both of them, and there is quite a decrease in graphics quality, not to mention, these are games that have come to console recontly or not yet, while theyve been on pc for OVER a year. _______________ I know whats been troubling you...... |
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Orion - Retired 
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Quote: As cool as consoles may seem, even game designers will admit that pc's are what drives technology. None of these upcoming consoles will have the graphics rendering power of the latest graphics cards and processors. They are simply upgraded versions of older consoles, with some new technology like bluetooth etc sprinkled in. XBOX 3 vs 2 7800 gtx's in sli with an FX-57? no comparison. Also, a pc game is a pc game, compatible with any pc. Um the GPU's in this up coming console release are as powerful as the current generation of PC GFX cards.. Don't forget ATI and nvidia made the GPU's for the ps3 and x360..They would be very stpuid to not put some of that into the latest generation of GFX cards out or vice-versa.. The PC market drives Graphics not gameplay... _______________ When a Man lies he murder's some part of the world. These are the pale deaths which men misscall there lives. All this I cannot bear to witness any longer. Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home? -Cliff Burton Owner of Smily's 1900th comment | <Lady_Catherine> i love your sexy white socks! | (Lady_Catherine) i adore u! | (Lady_Catherine) onion (Lady_Catherine) i lub u |
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Buzz - Student 
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Quote: As cool as consoles may seem, even game designers will admit that pc's are what drives technology. None of these upcoming consoles will have the graphics rendering power of the latest graphics cards and processors. They are simply upgraded versions of older consoles, with some new technology like bluetooth etc sprinkled in. XBOX 3 vs 2 7800 gtx's in sli with an FX-57? no comparison. Also, a pc game is a pc game, compatible with any pc. You want to show where they admit this by any chance. With a PC game you need to make sure that it is compatible with an amazingly wide variety of system specifications out there in order for it to be successful. For a console, you have a maximum of 3 specifications for it if you are developing it for all 3 current systems. You also won't see used computer games for sale like you do used console games. Stores will not take them back like they will a console game. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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3th - Retired 
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the attraction of the console is pretty simple if you ask me. for the price of the latest and greatest pc vid card you can get a whole gaming system and a handful of games. that has to be pretty attractive to a lot of people, especially those w/o a slew of cash to spend on a computer  imo, i think yeah, high def is a selling point. my roommate has a high def tv, sure is pretty. edit: oops, guess i'm repeating what Mike already said _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! |
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Bo - Student
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As cool as consoles may seem, even game designers will admit that pc's are what drives technology. None of these upcoming consoles will have the graphics rendering power of the latest graphics cards and processors. They are simply upgraded versions of older consoles, with some new technology like bluetooth etc sprinkled in. XBOX 3 vs 2 7800 gtx's in sli with an FX-57? no comparison. Also, a pc game is a pc game, compatible with any pc. _______________ I know whats been troubling you...... |
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DarthMike - Student
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the playstation 2 was released in October of 2000. Playstation 3 is scheduled for release in Spring 2006. So thats almost 6 years between consoles. Now i'm not sure but i think ps2 was around $300 when it was released. For a decent gaming computer in 2000, you would of have to of spent at least 800-900$, probably more. And it would only have stayed decent for 2-3 years, then you'd have to upgrade/buy a new one. I'd say to keep it a decent gaming comp, you'd need to spend at least $500. So that's about 1500$(at the very least) to have a gaming PC from 2000-2006. To have a ps2 from 2000-2006 its only 300$. Still think consoles are sillly? _______________ "You can't get Windows on a Mac because the drivers are not compatible." --- Some dude from the Geek Squad "So if you have quad-core, you have four times the RAM, right?" --- Some guy at Best Buy |
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AvaloN - Student 
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Quote: gfx ftw. At least Nintendo isnt bullshiting people about the power of their console. true. |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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Quote: i can like tell lots of things which makes PC much better but i will tell you the most obvious one. you cant play jk3 in JA with console heheh Not asking which ones better. Ive been rather asking why you consider people silly who buy consoles every few years instead of upgrading their PC every few years. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. This comment was edited by Masta on Sep 18 2005 03:30pm. |
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Eica - Student 
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Quote: Whats the difference in buying a new console once a few years and upgrading your PC once a few years? THere's a huge platform of difference from console upgrading, I mean when the PS2 originally cane out I knew I had to buy it, and that all my platinum PS1 games were no longer the state of the art. Upgrading a pc is more a "wehn you're ready" thing in my opinion _______________ Former padawan of RoseRed |
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SaZ - Student 
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i can like tell lots of things which makes PC much better but i will tell you the most obvious one. you cant play jk3 in JA with console heheh _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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Whats the difference in buying a new console once a few years and upgrading your PC once a few years? _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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SaZ - Student
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face it - consoles are crap. well yeah maybe those have some pretty games and sometimes graphics really kick a** but just look at this. they will release playstation 3 and that 360 box and after 1-2 years 'whoa we are creating playstation 2007 edition and xbox900'. and then ppl buy these products again... thus makin so much profit from you silly guys. consoles > PC @ sillyness. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Masta - Jedi Council
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gfx ftw. At least Nintendo isnt bullshiting people about the power of their console. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. This comment was edited by Masta on Sep 18 2005 08:48am. |
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