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Jack Thompson Interview
Oct 15 2005 09:28pm

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Chatterbox Gameshow's Alon Waisman interviewed Jack Thompson. You can download it here. They will also be interviewing the guys from Penny-Arcade this sunday Sunday, October 16th LIVE at:
7pm Pacific
10pm Eastern
3am GMT (October 17th)

Penny Arcade interview up. Download here.

Favorite moments (Post your favorite moments!):

Thompson Interview
24:15 Thompson "I should sell my copy of the Hot Coffee modded GTA:SA signed by Jack Thompson"

53:43 Thompson "It's not legal to sell cocain on the street corner is it?"
Alon "Well thats unfortunate..."

67:27 Thompson "My sister had Ken and Barbie dolls and they were a little more developed than that..." (Quoted out of context its funny as hell, listen to the rest. :))


PA Interview
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This post was edited by Sared on Oct 17 2005 06:10pm.

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Nov 23 2005 09:30pm

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fsreajl.kgxtfdlk;fdrsa;ilfsedi;ikcvxf.ikn .,

wow its so funny i not even laughing :O
lyke you *men about town*!

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Nov 22 2005 09:51pm

Ash
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That is perhaps the funniest thing I have read in a good while.
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Nov 22 2005 08:54pm

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DIE JACK DIE!
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Oct 23 2005 12:37am

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lol

Oct 23 2005 12:08am

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He's looking for help wherever he can get it
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Oct 22 2005 02:59am

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HAH! Now the BAR is on his butt too. :D PWNED! :D
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Oct 22 2005 12:50am

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Oh look.
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Oct 20 2005 06:05pm

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And last, I think he really hurt his credit/intentions by claiming his charitable donation was "satire"


That and PA writing up the check instead and paying up for him, now that had to hurt. :D

Also, I will agree that he has some sincere and commendable intentions at heart, but the way he is going about it is all wrong. He actually has a good standpoint when it came to EA and thier copyrights on The Sims (different conversation, different time), though personally, as I hate EA, they can loose all the copyrights they have as far as I'm concerned. ;)
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Oct 20 2005 06:14am

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PS: and the new Rockstar Game Bully looks and sounds F*%&$^% awesome.


...Bully is probably the most idiotic game I've ever heard of, (and I'm not too big a fan of GTA either). But Bully... well, Bully is a stupid idea being made in a really, really stupid time to make it. In a very general sense, the concept of Bully sounds somewhat believable. Sure, I'd say that everybody who's been to shool has at some point in their lives wanted to hurt or kill at least one of their teachers. However, does that mean they would necissarily have fun pretending to do such to teachers in a videogame? This is just my opinion, and others may [and will!] disagree, but I think actually enjoying that would be uncivilized, to the point of verging on sociopathic.


Actually there is no killing and no "gore" from the article I read in <insert gaming mag you get from Gamestop when you sign up for thier card> it says Rockstar is trying to put this game out with a T (for Teen) rating. Its more about highschool hijinks.

Like ruining a science fair project, you have to sneak around a dorm at night, plant a few firecracks light the fuse and watch it go boom!

There is fighting, but this isn't supposed to be like GTA at school. So if they do make a game which only gets a T rating hopefully they don't puy any "Hot Coffee" mod into this or that could do some serious harm to their business.


Now, regarding the Interview the Jack. This guy is a bit off. His overall goal, is so normal and sensical at one moment, then it like some magician snaps his fingers and he goes on a rant that make little to no sense.

This is his 1st assertion: "I want to abolish the ESRB, and reform the exact same group, with people from OUTSIDE the gaming industry. Then I want their laws enforced by law"

Ok, (I think) we all agree games should have ratings and those ratings should be enforced.

I don't agree that the ESRB needs to be abolished. the MPAA has been rating movies forever. They literally put X number of people in a room to screen the movie, and those people must come to an agreement on the rating. At least the ESRB has criteria for their ratings.

The real reason Jack wants the ESRB abolished is because he wants his ratings put into place. Now we don't know what those ratings are but he even says the ESRB is lying about the ratings and being to lenient. So he wants something much stricter.

He core beliefs are actually not poor, or poorly intented (please note: what he says he core beliefs about gaming are) but when you through out lines like:

"Bully is a murder simulator that takes place in a school, that is wrong!" Sorry please atleast do some research, the game is still in RP (rating pending) but I don't see why Rockstar has reason to lie about the what they hope the rating of the game will be.

Also one of his last comments:
"I want to destroy Rockstar"

I'm sorry that just makes him seem so insincere, like he no longer cares about making sure children are playing only the games they should, he really just has a chip on his shoulder for this one gaming company.

And last, I think he really hurt his credit/intentions by claiming his charitable donation was "satire"
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Oct 20 2005 04:42am

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PS: and the new Rockstar Game Bully looks and sounds F*%&$^% awesome.


...Bully is probably the most idiotic game I've ever heard of, (and I'm not too big a fan of GTA either). But Bully... well, Bully is a stupid idea being made in a really, really stupid time to make it. In a very general sense, the concept of Bully sounds somewhat believable. Sure, I'd say that everybody who's been to shool has at some point in their lives wanted to hurt or kill at least one of their teachers. However, does that mean they would necissarily have fun pretending to do such to teachers in a videogame? This is just my opinion, and others may [and will!] disagree, but I think actually enjoying that would be uncivilized, to the point of verging on sociopathic.
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Oct 19 2005 05:31pm

Esta
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 Esta

...what a moron.
*strong words in the direction of Jack Thompson*

..discuss.
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This comment was edited by Esta on Oct 19 2005 05:32pm.

Oct 19 2005 04:18am

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I hope you're all following Penny Arcade religiously at the moment. All this Jack Thompson stuff is absolutely hilarious to be honest.

Oh, I am. VG Cats too.
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Oct 19 2005 01:22am

Lucky Mintaka
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theres worse things out there in the world that kids are attracted to. Yea taking a highly explicit Game off the shelves of big distributors will make it less buyable. But it will only increase in worth i mean when you get older do you be the only guy that didnt have San Andreas? Idk about you guys but that game was highly addicting my parents played it for a couple weeks. My point being, they think there putting there foot down finally but really there just sinking into quick sand if you catch my drift. Where theres light theres dark. You cant stop whats there when you stop it.


PS: and the new Rockstar Game Bully looks and sounds F*%&$^% awesome.
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Oct 18 2005 11:42pm

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I hope you're all following Penny Arcade religiously at the moment. All this Jack Thompson stuff is absolutely hilarious to be honest.
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Oct 17 2005 10:05pm

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The rating for GTA in the US was M which is 17, because of the "dirty filthy sex" they included with all the bloody violence, they had to make it adults only which jumped it up to 18. Wow would you look at that difference.

I still blame rockstar games for being stupid for not taking out that content from the game even if it wasn't "accessible" The video game community will regularly mod/hack/alter games without any care, did they actually think it wouldn't be found. They're morons for giving these loony moralists a foothold.
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Oct 17 2005 05:40pm

Monteeeeeee
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 Monteeeeeee

yea in UK 18 is maximum rating, even MATURE comes as a 18 so different names mean the same thing in UK
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Oct 17 2005 12:12am

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I think the rating for GTA was 18 anyway...
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Oct 16 2005 11:55pm

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I second that Kauyon, the more I hear about the UK system, the more I like it. :)
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Oct 16 2005 06:32pm

Monteeeeeee
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 Monteeeeeee

I thought it was rather good.

Jack made some intresting points and well in today's society we have to compremise i guess.

Still hope bully gets a nice uncut release :D
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Oct 16 2005 11:02am

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Okay, my bad obviously, couldn't resist.
Now to be at least slightly more serious.
To be fair, he has a point trying to persuade game companies into *not* hiding content, especially if it exceeds the certificate issued to the game.
But really I can't see how blame can be shifted to a game in almost any case.
He says something around the 9-10minute mark about how children who play violent video games have developed 'brain damage', and structural change that mimics that of children who tend to be more violent.
I think I'll just pick out a few interesting quotes now, before I go picking him apart like my cat over a dead bird.
...'Like any technology it can be used for good or evil.'
'The notion that there are no studies that directly prove a link between violent entertainment and teen violence is just nonsense.'
'In fact I got 5000 emails in one day by one guy threatening to kill me... ...A guy threatening to kill me in the context of hey video games haven't affected me.'
'I'd love for America to go to the uk system, where they have a certificate for games..' (Uk 2 win! I didn't actually know America didn't have this system)
I'll listen to the rest of this later... O.o

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Oct 16 2005 05:46am

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One of my buddies has done some writing for an anti-jack-thompson/anti-video-game-bashing site.

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Oct 16 2005 12:24am

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Please keep your comments about the actual cases and/or, the interview posted above. We've all seen the webcomic bashing, now lets take a serious look at what is presented.
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Oct 15 2005 11:37pm

Esta
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Ctrl-Alt-Del on Jack Thompson.
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Oct 15 2005 09:34pm

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Oooh. You just opened up a wonderful new discussion. :D He's the guy that got San Andreas pulled off the shelves of most major distributors (Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Circut City). Among other things. :)
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Oct 15 2005 09:32pm

Lucky Mintaka
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... whos jack thompson..?
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