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Another SWG Combat Upgrade >:(
Nov 04 2005 12:23am

Gradius
 - ex-Student
Gradius
Ok, for those of you who still play Star Wars Galaxies, you're well aware that yet another CU is coming out within the month. I'm sure you remember the first CU, which totally ruined the game for most of it's players at first. There they added combat levels, took away stat migration, toned down the doctor profession (now they are as useful as entertainers), amongst other things. Well, if you thought that was bad, check the following links to see what they are changing now:
Letter from the game producer Julio Torres
General NGE (New Game Enhancement) FAQ

Let's take a look at this shall we? First and foremost, there will now only be 9 professions. That's right, you read that correctly. 9 professions. These include Bounty Hunter, Commando, Entertainer, Medic, Officer, Smuggler, Spy, Trader, and last but not least, Jedi. Yes, Jedi will now be it's own profession no different from the rest.

What's the point of this "enhancement" you might ask. According to studies from players, fan bases, and outside critics the game has too much content. In other words, it's too hard for a brand new player to learn everything there is to know about the game in 1 day. Also, in opposition of what the game was originally designed for, the profession revamp gives players the chance to play the role of their favorite Star Wars characters, rather than play their own role in the SW universe.

Let's move on to an issue just as severe. Items will no longer decay. The economy of SWG revolves around crafting, the decaying of items, and purchasing replacements for them. Without item decay, crafters will now be screwed. Along with this, the economy of SWG will also be screwed. Now people will buy the best weapons, clothes, vehicles, etc., and never have to replace them. Goodbye crafters.

All in all, the beauty that made SWG different from all other MMORPGs is being stripped out of the game. Not only that, but everyone and their mothers will be a Jedi. Now everyone will be the same professions, carry the same weapons, wear the same armor and so forth. Reminds me of Guild Wars. Sony has really done it this time. They took a freaking awesome game, added some of Slider's coding, and made it a game for every 10 year old to enjoy. GG.
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- We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything
- <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words!
- "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider

This post was edited by Gradius on Nov 04 2005 12:25am.

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Nov 22 2005 04:53pm

Alex Dkana
 - Staff
 Alex Dkana

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Only one problem of moving to dark and light. It isnt scheduled to released untill the spring.


there are pre-orders being taken now, and they are supposed to be releasing a prequal version called settlers of ganareth in december
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Nov 22 2005 03:52pm

Tallepyon
 - Student
 Tallepyon

Only one problem of moving to dark and light. It isnt scheduled to released untill the spring.

Nov 22 2005 03:05pm

Alex Dkana
 - Staff
 Alex Dkana

a lot of people i know from swg are moving on to play dark and light, looks pretty good if it lives up to the hype.
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To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana

Nov 22 2005 02:59pm

OpTiMe
 - Student
 OpTiMe

Or Gradius....you could play Guild Wars :) Which you don't have to pay anything for per month :P
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Nov 22 2005 02:17am

Gradius
 - Ex-Student
 Gradius

Just closed my accounts and uninstalled it from my machine. Goodbye SWG. Maybe I'll try WoW, or maybe I'll just stick to real games that don't charge me $15+ a month to play.
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- Proud padawan of Kueller.
- We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything
- <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words!
- "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider


Nov 21 2005 04:51pm

Raziel Anjelis
 - Student
 Raziel Anjelis

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it's buggier than ants in Grad's pants. Tried to do a mission for Jabba's Themepark involving killing Sennex slavemasters, and i kept getting chucked out the bunker.......even though it was my factions bunker with the rebel flag on :eek:


Still need to be Combantant to get in Rebel buildings :)


I was lol. Had to fend off 3 imp squads to get there. Flaming novatoopers:mad:
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Nov 20 2005 11:36pm

Alex Dkana
 - Staff
 Alex Dkana

my account ran out by itself and i cant be bothered to re-sub atm anyway (ok ok im outta cash :D) but i think i will give it a few months to get its act together, if it looks like it is then ill come back to check it out
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To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana

Nov 20 2005 11:07pm

Tallepyon
 - Student
 Tallepyon

Well I cancelled my account. I dont plan on resubscribing untill it is better.

Nov 20 2005 10:47pm

Monteeeeeee
 - Nugget
 Monteeeeeee

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it's buggier than ants in Grad's pants. Tried to do a mission for Jabba's Themepark involving killing Sennex slavemasters, and i kept getting chucked out the bunker.......even though it was my factions bunker with the rebel flag on :eek:


Still need to be Combantant to get in Rebel buildings :)
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Nov 20 2005 09:27pm

Mister Clutch
 - Student
 Mister Clutch

Warn me when/if SWG gets better again lol :P.

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Nov 20 2005 09:19pm

Raziel Anjelis
 - Student
 Raziel Anjelis

it's buggier than ants in Grad's pants. Tried to do a mission for Jabba's Themepark involving killing Sennex slavemasters, and i kept getting chucked out the bunker.......even though it was my factions bunker with the rebel flag on :eek:
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Nov 20 2005 06:36pm

Gradius
 - Ex-Student
 Gradius

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Wait...so you're a Jedi Virtue?!? That's low dude, that's real low. I never thoght you could get that low. You're a disgrace to the game!


>.>

<.<

*Runs away*


Wtf you are a jedi to gradius.


You lie!
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- Proud padawan of Kueller.
- We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything
- <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words!
- "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider


Nov 20 2005 03:41pm

Tallepyon
 - Student
 Tallepyon

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Wait...so you're a Jedi Virtue?!? That's low dude, that's real low. I never thoght you could get that low. You're a disgrace to the game!


>.>

<.<

*Runs away*


Wtf you are a jedi to gradius.

Nov 20 2005 11:08am

Eica
 - Student
 Eica

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Alot of people are saying "Everyone and their dog is a Jedi!" - To that, I say: Of COURSE they are. What are you, a f***ing idiot? There may be more to Star Wars than Jedi, but what IS Star Wars WITHOUT Jedi? What these idiots are really sayin is - "I want to be a Jedi, but I don't want anyone else to be!". Which is retarded, everyone is thinking like you, dips***!


Good point, but I think people are annoyed at how hard it was to be when the game began, what with all the holocrons and all. I felt annoyed at how they'd made it easier, Jedi was no longer an elite profession, just an attractive option

Eica:alliance:
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This comment was edited by Eica on Nov 20 2005 11:11am.

Nov 20 2005 07:27am

Gradius
 - Ex-Student
 Gradius

Wait...so you're a Jedi Virtue?!? That's low dude, that's real low. I never thoght you could get that low. You're a disgrace to the game!


>.>

<.<

*Runs away*
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- Proud padawan of Kueller.
- We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything
- <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words!
- "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider


Nov 20 2005 06:13am

Virtue
 - Jedi Council
 Virtue

And for those of you who have a problem with us Vets who didn't get the chance to finish our grind for Jedi before the NGE hit, but respec'ed to lvl 80 Jedi afterwards, I have something for you to read:

Now go play in traffic!

- Virtue. :alliance:
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Nov 19 2005 11:40pm

Alex Dkana
 - Staff
 Alex Dkana

some veteren players on my server (farstar) have said that they are enjoying Mustafar in the new system, and that it seems to work with it a lot better than other parts of the game at this time.

They still think certain bugs, and melee combat balancing needs adressing, along with some other things, but they are giving it some more time as they are more hopeful now.

They also agree the beginner quests work well.

altough i am interested in the new dark and light game coming out, i'm still going to give swg a few months to sort itself out.
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To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana

Nov 19 2005 08:09pm

Gradius
 - Ex-Student
 Gradius

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I know for a fact that 90% of the devs haven't even played the game - but I wonder how many of them have actually seen Star Wars?

- Virtue. :alliance:


Huh? What's this Star Wars you speak of?
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- Proud padawan of Kueller.
- We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything
- <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words!
- "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider


Nov 19 2005 07:48pm

Eica
 - Student
 Eica

90%? Didn't even think it was that many... yet I doubt removing things from a game will attract new players, especially now at a time when the only publicity SWG recieves is through these combat upgrades
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Former padawan of RoseRed

Nov 19 2005 07:09pm

Monteeeeeee
 - Nugget
 Monteeeeeee

found a exploit so i should be lvl 90 in by sunday ^_^
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Nov 19 2005 06:52pm

Gradius
 - Ex-Student
 Gradius

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Although I don't play galaxies anymore, this "upgrade" has astounded me, they were fully aware of the negativity they recieved from the last one, I don't see what would drive them to release another...


Gamespy did a Q&A session with Julio Torres. He stated that the last CU had the same uproar, yet in the end they had only lost a very small number of their players. This is a much worse uproar, where SWG is going to lose 90% of it's veteran players, the actual base of the entire community. SOE doesn't care about this. They expect fresh faces to fill up these spots. Chances are that they'll get them too.
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- Proud padawan of Kueller.
- We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything
- <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words!
- "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider


Nov 19 2005 06:01pm

Eica
 - Student
 Eica

I was thinking they'll realise tons of players have left their game (if they haven't already) and might use that as one of the ways to bring players back...

Probably just wishful thinking on my behalf though
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Former padawan of RoseRed

Nov 19 2005 04:24pm

SaZ
 - Student
 SaZ

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Although I don't play galaxies anymore, this "upgrade" has astounded me, they were fully aware of the negativity they recieved from the last one, I don't see what would drive them to release another...

Another thing is: do you think SWG will be made free to play? If enough folk are driven away from there accounts because of the upgrades, this might be a possible scenario


i totaly agree with the first thing you said... but if they thought 'lets ruin our damn game so no one will play it' i doubt that they think about making it free to play :)
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Nov 19 2005 03:42pm

Eica
 - Student
 Eica

Although I don't play galaxies anymore, this "upgrade" has astounded me, they were fully aware of the negativity they recieved from the last one, I don't see what would drive them to release another...

Another thing is: do you think SWG will be made free to play? If enough folk are driven away from there accounts because of the upgrades, this might be a possible scenario
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Former padawan of RoseRed

Nov 19 2005 12:39pm

Virtue
 - Jedi Council
 Virtue

Certain aspects of it are good. Certain aspects are awful.

First and foremost - the Devs wanted to make the NGE be alot more like Star Wars...well then let's see some real Jedi then, shall we? Not a bunch of people running around with glowsticks that can do one or two parlour tricks.

Alot of people are saying "Everyone and their dog is a Jedi!" - To that, I say: Of COURSE they are. What are you, a f***ing idiot? There may be more to Star Wars than Jedi, but what IS Star Wars WITHOUT Jedi? What these idiots are really sayin is - "I want to be a Jedi, but I don't want anyone else to be!". Which is retarded, everyone is thinking like you, dips***!

The current Jedi system is a joke, is has potential but what do the devs know about that? They never listen to the players. SOE don't realise that they are the Vanilla Ice of the gaming industry.

I have mixed feelings about this. Part of me thinks it's kinda cool and part of me hates it with a passion you could only dream of, but I keep playing it in hope that the Jedi profession will be fixed, because right now, alot of the game's aspects couldn't be furthar from Star Wars continuity.

I know for a fact that 90% of the devs haven't even played the game - but I wonder how many of them have actually seen Star Wars?

- Virtue. :alliance:
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This comment was edited by Virtue on Nov 19 2005 12:40pm.

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