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Is death avoidable by Palpatine?
Nov 04 2005 01:01am

Darth Nitsua
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who knows how he does that? I mean seriously?!:empire:
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Jan 10 2006 06:21pm

D@RtHM@UL
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I'm suspecting that Shmi knew something as well. Remember she told Qui Gon "He was meant to help you." Personally, I think she had some know in Plageus giving her a child. Why a commoner like her? That is a mystery in itself.:(


Yeah, read about him being the father of Anakin.

Why Shmi? Perhaps BECAUSE of the fact she was a commoner, just a slave on a crappy planet.
This way, Anakin could grow up before being discovered by the Jedi perhaps?

Jan 10 2006 06:00pm

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star wars consipracy theory's are great :D

yep yep!! =D
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Dec 15 2005 11:44pm

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star wars consipracy theory's are great :D
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Dec 15 2005 11:11pm

cHoSeN oNe
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I'm suspecting that Shmi knew something as well. Remember she told Qui Gon "He was meant to help you." Personally, I think she had some know in Plageus giving her a child. Why a commoner like her? That is a mystery in itself.:(
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Dec 14 2005 01:29pm

R2D2
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Wow, Plagius being the daddio. He wouldn't have needed to actual be the "Dad" as we know it, just manipulate the Force to create life. Just wonder why he chose Shmi Skywalker. I guess he may have had a vision of the future - Could this be the basis of the prophecy regarding the chosen one?

Lets ask C1 ;)
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This comment was edited by R2D2 on Dec 14 2005 01:29pm.

Dec 14 2005 01:20am

Alex Dkana
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BTW, Lucas confirms that Plagues trained him in one of the recent books out. He also states that it was Plagues who is Anakin's daddeh. Now go chew on that for a while and get back to me ;)


*chews* mmm tastes bitter :o

on a serious note, thats interesting i didn't know that :) I'll check it out, thanks C1
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Dec 13 2005 11:03pm

cHoSeN oNe
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BTW, Lucas confirms that Plagues trained him in one of the recent books out. He also states that it was Plagues who is Anakin's daddeh. Now go chew on that for a while and get back to me ;)
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This comment was edited by cHoSeN oNe on Dec 13 2005 11:06pm.

Dec 03 2005 09:42pm

Kenwan Obiobi
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well....tbh with u, Sidious died in the end thanks to the good help of Mr Vader.....who was a good person....um....yes a good person.....he helped Luke!!!!!! Honest!!!! Yeh...Sidious died, end of story loL!


I do however....prefer Garlic bread tbh...:o

Nov 11 2005 10:55am

Bail Hope of Belouve
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The fact that Plaegius is mentioned in the films doesn't mean anything. I mean, Sidious is the bodily carnation of lies and deceiving, and you trust his word when he talks about Darth Plaegius? IMO he only mentions DP to get Anakin's attention, he only implies that HE is the one who's been taught by DP how to create life, but then later on he says something like if they study together, they can achieve that same knowledge..
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He wants to study the art of saving one's life rather than creating one .

Anyway, Sidious lied about himself not knowing this power. He uses it on Anakin when Anakin was torched.
He only said he didn't know this power to convince Anakin to move against the Jedi Temple, where all secrets and knowledge of the Force is hidden.
He uses this power on Anakin anyway when he is dead/near dead in the Episode 3 Novel.
As for what comes to the actual thread, NO. Death is, like some of you have said, not avoidable by Palpatine, he has clones of himself which later when he dies were released by his still-so-loyal-minions. Theese clones ofcourse have a fatal drawback, each line of them is weaker and weaker, so basicly to start with, we have a Palpatine weaker than before. And this is significant, not just that he's weaker, he's by far weaker!



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Nov 11 2005 09:37am

Ataris
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By some belief it's a sith called Darth Imperius that is Sidious' master. Imperius has theese 'Kyber crystals' that give you more power in the Force. Sidious find a Kyber Crystal of his own, which is more powerful than any of Imperius' KC's. This ends up in Sidious being more powerful than his master, and results in Sidious killing Imperius.

The fact that Plaegius is mentioned in the films doesn't mean anything. I mean, Sidious is the bodily carnation of lies and deceiving, and you trust his word when he talks about Darth Plaegius? IMO he only mentions DP to get Anakin's attention, he only implies that HE is the one who's been taught by DP how to create life, but then later on he says something like if they study together, they can achieve that same knowledge..

As for what comes to the actual thread, NO. Death is, like some of you have said, not avoidable by Palpatine, he has clones of himself which later when he dies were released by his still-so-loyal-minions. Theese clones ofcourse have a fatal drawback, each line of them is weaker and weaker, so basicly to start with, we have a Palpatine weaker than before. And this is significant, not just that he's weaker, he's by far weaker!



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Nov 09 2005 05:25pm

Duffman
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yea, he came back, turned luke to the dark side, and went on a rampage with a few other dark jedi as well, especialy when luke turned on him like his father did.

good graphic novels, you should read them sometime ;)
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Nov 09 2005 03:34pm

Jedifire_Mintaka
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Well to be serious...
*Warning: EU Ahead! (Please don't kill me!)*:eek:

Strong in the dark side + cloning tanks = one long living, doesn't know when to quit Emperor :)

(This occurs in the Dark Empire comics, I beleive, or something like that!);)
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Nov 09 2005 05:24am

Plo Koon
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Palpatine avoidable by death? lol he was killed so I think not. :)
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Nov 08 2005 09:05pm

Jedifire_Mintaka
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Well apparantly Plagueis wasn't that good at staying alive...:P
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Nov 08 2005 12:48am

Pink_Mintaka
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his master was Darth Plagueis i believe (my counter part :D )

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Nov 05 2005 08:34pm

Nuebus
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:D
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Nov 05 2005 07:56pm

Vision
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who's vader?

LoL

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Nov 05 2005 10:15am

Nuebus
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who's vader?
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Nov 04 2005 05:17pm

El Vee For
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No doubt his connection to the dark side sustained him longer than he should have lived, but when he passed he was in his late 80's I think, not an exceptionally long life for a human.

The real trick was how he managed to survive his war against the Jedi, oh yeah Vader had his back. Good guy to have on your side that Vader fella.
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Nov 04 2005 03:55pm

Eica
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He did live past his live expectancy in my opinion... good point nitsua
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Nov 04 2005 02:10pm

SaZ
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1. he avoided death? :confused:
2. i think in EP3 the palpatines master is revealed.
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