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CuZzA - Student  |
Click here Man...that's wrong... _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world This post was edited by CuZzA on Dec 03 2005 11:56pm. |
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Kenwan Obiobi - Student |
thats sad.. |
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JavaGuy - Student 
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Quote: ..., perhaps especially to troubled teens. That's a good point. Antidepressants are supposed to correct certain chemical imbalances in the brain. They're not a cure for ordinary sorts of troubles--and by "ordinary" I most certainly do not mean trivial. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Alex Dkana - Staff 
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Quote: I believe antidepressants are prescribed waaaaay too often, but for those who need them they are a Godsend. nice post, and i agree; highlighted this inparticular as i'm in absolute agreement being on the receiving end of a bad perscription of antidepressants myself, i took em for a couple of days then but then stopped and after seeing various programs and having a mate who takes them still i don't regret going against that decision one bit. They are definetly perscribed too often, perhaps especially to troubled teens. _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana |
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JavaGuy - Student
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If you're talking about the rare situation where one must choose, for example, between suicide and something that is actually worse, sure. I'm thinking of someone faced with capture and torture at the hands of enemies who might learn from him secrets that could seriously harm his country. Or there's the guy who jumped from the World Trade Center to die an instantaneous, painless death rather than a horrific death by fire. These "situational" suicides, however, are not of the same sort as those who post their suicidal thoughts on their blogs for a period of weeks or months before actually doing the deed. But most suicides we read about are simply people who were unhappy with their lives and thought it was so hopeless they just had to end it all. Objectively, most of them here in America anyway have far, far better lives than the vast majority of people have had throughout history. It generally just boils down to depression. I don't mean depression as in how I felt when I realized that Jar-Jar was going to be in the entire movie, but clinical Depression, which is a serious medical condition. When such people kill themselves, their reasons, if they give any don't lend themselves to rational analysis. They just feel horrible and don't see a way out. Yet for every suburbanite with a home, a steady job and food in the pantry who lives in an emotional blackness most of us cannot fathom, there are also people who don't have any of those blessings and whose lives have been wrecked in ways I can't imagine living through, yet never entertain thoughts of suicide. Why the discrepancy? There's strong scientific evidence to suggest it has more to do with brain chemistry than with anything else. If a person is Depressed with a capital D, all the rational analysis of his real situation is not going to make him feel any better--even if he is intelligent and rationally knows that his life is good (if it is), a person suffering from depression is going to be depressed. You can't talk your way out of chemistry. A person can tell himself it isn't so bad, take a cold, hard, reasonable look at his life and perhaps come to the conclusion that he has it pretty good, but that understanding will not magically change his brain chemistry if he suffers from depression. I believe antidepressants are prescribed waaaaay too often, but for those who need them they are a Godsend. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Alex Dkana - Staff
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Quote: suicide is too complicated and varies too much to generalise it like this Agreed. It's impossible to summarise everyones motives, but from my experience, it isn't always completely misguided. I agree _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana |
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Esta - Student 
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Quote: suicide is too complicated and varies too much to generalise it like this Agreed. It's impossible to summarise everyones motives, but from my experience, it isn't always completely misguided. _______________ -Kauyon Draconis [Official master of Ataris] |
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Alex Dkana - Staff
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well in my opinion suicide is too complicated and varies too much to generalise it like this, however as a rule it is the wrong thing to do. This does not mean i think people that commit suicide are making a bad decision per say, its about the person, some people find it incredibly hard to cope with certain stresses in life and suicide can seem like the only option left available to them in order to find happiness or even to give others happiness. People are often wrong about this and they cause grief to others, or miss oportunities by taking this path, this is not always the case at all but one scenario of suicide. It so completely depends on circumstance and the person/peoples involved that it is hard to say for certain if it is ever the right thing to do or not, for example a teen commiting suicide because of the many stresses in their life however harsh it may seem is very different to a very old person not wanting to continue living on a machine or taking certain medications, it all depends greatly on point of view, personality, and many other factors. This is certainly an interesting if tragic topic, but if the forum moderator/s have the ability it should definetly be moved to 'general' as its odd to find it here in crazy stuff.. _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana |
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Esta - Student
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Quote: Suicide does not follow from a rational analysis of the situation. ...this isn't always true, you know. Even the most rational minds with the most rational thoughts can see no worthwhile outcome sometimes. _______________ -Kauyon Draconis [Official master of Ataris] |
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JavaGuy - Student 
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I think it's a mistake to think of suicide in terms of people's reasons for doing it. Such people are typically suffering from clinical depression, a chemical imbalance in the brain. Suicide does not follow from a rational analysis of the situation. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Esta - Student
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Like I said, suicide doesn't always have a motive based on life being hard. In some cases.. sometimes life just doesn't seem like it's worth living anymore, when something you cared about more than life itself, is lost. _______________ -Kauyon Draconis [Official master of Ataris] This comment was edited by Esta on Dec 14 2005 04:13pm. |
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Mindrith Pride - Student 
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Quote: Sometimes life can be that hard. true but look at it like this: you get a game for example you start to play it, its the only one of its kind for all you know ^^ only one chance to have a game like that. then you get stuck. you wouldnt give up would you? i wouldnt! just keep trying =) _______________ [proud owner of talions 200th, 700th,1111th coment AND 1400th , DJK's 3001th coment! , saz's 400th coment! liso's 800th coment! Kitmitsu Aratan's 1200th comment! Cau's 100th comeent, Alexander's (aka CC) 210th, 888th and 2200th comments! Moriarti's 800th comment , Piccolo's 2000th comment! lirael's 505th comment , Quom Farlance's 120th comment, Alexander's 1800th comment , Eica's 1400th comment , Wicek's 3200th comment lady C's 999th comment, Echuu's 1100th comment, Takaru's 325th and 400th comment, Redeye's 200th comment picc's 3600th comment, Ostith's 50th comment, Elmo's 555th comment] |
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JavaGuy - Student
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LiveJournal kinda has a history...  _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Esta - Student 
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Sometimes suicide can be the only logical way out. When your life becomes focused on something so strongly that when that is taken away, the rest of your life just doesn't seem like it's worth living. Suicide is never mindless, or a cry for attention. Trust me on that one. _______________ -Kauyon Draconis [Official master of Ataris] |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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Sometimes life can be that hard. |
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Mindrith Pride - Student
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that is really sad... i really do not see the point in suicide _______________ [proud owner of talions 200th, 700th,1111th coment AND 1400th , DJK's 3001th coment! , saz's 400th coment! liso's 800th coment! Kitmitsu Aratan's 1200th comment! Cau's 100th comeent, Alexander's (aka CC) 210th, 888th and 2200th comments! Moriarti's 800th comment , Piccolo's 2000th comment! lirael's 505th comment , Quom Farlance's 120th comment, Alexander's 1800th comment , Eica's 1400th comment , Wicek's 3200th comment lady C's 999th comment, Echuu's 1100th comment, Takaru's 325th and 400th comment, Redeye's 200th comment picc's 3600th comment, Ostith's 50th comment, Elmo's 555th comment] |
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Dachande - Student 
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here in SI peopel commit suicide liek if itz the cool new thing to do...the sad part is that they say they will do it and no oen listens...and others jsu taunt them... so sad _______________ I don't wanna be the best, being the best doesn't mean I'm good...I wanna be perfect 'cause we always fall short, so if I aim for perfect I'll be good.... |
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Ryu - Student 
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its so bad this things happened R.I.P _______________ Education is an admirable thing, but it is well to remember from time to time that nothing that is worth knowing can be taught. |
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Pink_Mintaka - Student 
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RIP |
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Jade Jedi - Retired 
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I had a good friend commit suicide a few years ago and unfortunatley I didn't see the signs untill after he was gone. I wish I knew then what I know now, but as they say hind sight is 20-20. R.I.P Mark i miss you mate.  _______________ *CLICKEH->Never risk the Fett Man|*Download my Saber here. Made by master craftsman Pink Floyd_Mintaka + his 2002 & 4000 comment's [Laz's 700th comment][BDKawika's 600th comment] & Owner of a TOWEL award!!|Master: Sared Padawans: Rage-Ball and Dante Eagle.|*Jade Jedi at The Jedi Academy Archives "There's only one Return and it's not of the King it's of the Jedi" Randal Clerks 2 The top 10 reasons why I procrastinate: 1. |
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Raider - Student 
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Not really fitted for this forum. But tragic nonetheless, I know one who knew this guy, she's devastated. _______________ Artificial intelligence beats natural stupidity. |
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Mic Den Octela - Student 
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Shameful thing is, i know people who are like this. RIP _______________ -Padawan of Virtue -Brother of Menaxia, *|irael, Krynn Adept, Majno, Ris Win Juljul, DaMi3N, Beowulf, Dash Starlight, Carrock and Yuken Zalak Bartender at Munes bar. Sir Mic of Nippledom! Proudly beating Wang, since '07. (Crackdown) This comment was edited by Mic Den Octela on Dec 08 2005 04:59pm. |
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Alex Dkana - Staff 
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terrible... _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana This comment was edited by Alex Dkana on Dec 05 2005 11:39pm. |
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Phantom - Student 
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the good die young... _______________ -Phantom Ex-Master to Threat. Proud owner of Sazabi's 1500th comment! And Threats 50th comment "Insanity: a perfect rational adjustment to an insane world" |
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CuZzA - Student 
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My bad... _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world |
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