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Dec 03 2005 10:21pm

CuZzA
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Man...that's wrong...
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This post was edited by CuZzA on Dec 03 2005 11:56pm.

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Dec 19 2005 07:43pm

Kenwan Obiobi
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thats sad..:(

Dec 15 2005 07:37am

JavaGuy
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..., perhaps especially to troubled teens.


That's a good point. Antidepressants are supposed to correct certain chemical imbalances in the brain. They're not a cure for ordinary sorts of troubles--and by "ordinary" I most certainly do not mean trivial.


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Dec 15 2005 06:12am

Alex Dkana
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I believe antidepressants are prescribed waaaaay too often, but for those who need them they are a Godsend.


nice post, and i agree; highlighted this inparticular as i'm in absolute agreement being on the receiving end of a bad perscription of antidepressants myself, i took em for a couple of days then but then stopped and after seeing various programs and having a mate who takes them still i don't regret going against that decision one bit. They are definetly perscribed too often, perhaps especially to troubled teens.
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Dec 15 2005 03:16am

JavaGuy
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If you're talking about the rare situation where one must choose, for example, between suicide and something that is actually worse, sure. I'm thinking of someone faced with capture and torture at the hands of enemies who might learn from him secrets that could seriously harm his country.

Or there's the guy who jumped from the World Trade Center to die an instantaneous, painless death rather than a horrific death by fire.

These "situational" suicides, however, are not of the same sort as those who post their suicidal thoughts on their blogs for a period of weeks or months before actually doing the deed.

But most suicides we read about are simply people who were unhappy with their lives and thought it was so hopeless they just had to end it all. Objectively, most of them here in America anyway have far, far better lives than the vast majority of people have had throughout history. It generally just boils down to depression. I don't mean depression as in how I felt when I realized that Jar-Jar was going to be in the entire movie, but clinical Depression, which is a serious medical condition. When such people kill themselves, their reasons, if they give any don't lend themselves to rational analysis. They just feel horrible and don't see a way out.

Yet for every suburbanite with a home, a steady job and food in the pantry who lives in an emotional blackness most of us cannot fathom, there are also people who don't have any of those blessings and whose lives have been wrecked in ways I can't imagine living through, yet never entertain thoughts of suicide. Why the discrepancy? There's strong scientific evidence to suggest it has more to do with brain chemistry than with anything else.

If a person is Depressed with a capital D, all the rational analysis of his real situation is not going to make him feel any better--even if he is intelligent and rationally knows that his life is good (if it is), a person suffering from depression is going to be depressed. You can't talk your way out of chemistry. A person can tell himself it isn't so bad, take a cold, hard, reasonable look at his life and perhaps come to the conclusion that he has it pretty good, but that understanding will not magically change his brain chemistry if he suffers from depression.

I believe antidepressants are prescribed waaaaay too often, but for those who need them they are a Godsend.


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Dec 14 2005 11:35pm

Alex Dkana
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suicide is too complicated and varies too much to generalise it like this

Agreed. It's impossible to summarise everyones motives, but from my experience, it isn't always completely misguided.


I agree
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Dec 14 2005 10:39pm

Esta
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suicide is too complicated and varies too much to generalise it like this

Agreed. It's impossible to summarise everyones motives, but from my experience, it isn't always completely misguided.
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Dec 14 2005 09:27pm

Alex Dkana
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well in my opinion suicide is too complicated and varies too much to generalise it like this, however as a rule it is the wrong thing to do.

This does not mean i think people that commit suicide are making a bad decision per say, its about the person, some people find it incredibly hard to cope with certain stresses in life and suicide can seem like the only option left available to them in order to find happiness or even to give others happiness.

People are often wrong about this and they cause grief to others, or miss oportunities by taking this path, this is not always the case at all but one scenario of suicide.

It so completely depends on circumstance and the person/peoples involved that it is hard to say for certain if it is ever the right thing to do or not, for example a teen commiting suicide because of the many stresses in their life however harsh it may seem is very different to a very old person not wanting to continue living on a machine or taking certain medications, it all depends greatly on point of view, personality, and many other factors.

This is certainly an interesting if tragic topic, but if the forum moderator/s have the ability it should definetly be moved to 'general' as its odd to find it here in crazy stuff..
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Dec 14 2005 08:29pm

Esta
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Suicide does not follow from a rational analysis of the situation.

...this isn't always true, you know. Even the most rational minds with the most rational thoughts can see no worthwhile outcome sometimes.
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Dec 14 2005 08:12pm

JavaGuy
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I think it's a mistake to think of suicide in terms of people's reasons for doing it. Such people are typically suffering from clinical depression, a chemical imbalance in the brain. Suicide does not follow from a rational analysis of the situation.
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Dec 14 2005 03:28pm

Esta
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 Esta

Like I said, suicide doesn't always have a motive based on life being hard. In some cases.. sometimes life just doesn't seem like it's worth living anymore, when something you cared about more than life itself, is lost.
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This comment was edited by Esta on Dec 14 2005 04:13pm.

Dec 14 2005 08:23am

Mindrith Pride
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Sometimes life can be that hard. :(

true but look at it like this: you get a game for example you start to play it, its the only one of its kind for all you know ^^ only one chance to have a game like that. then you get stuck. you wouldnt give up would you? i wouldnt! just keep trying =)
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Dec 14 2005 07:39am

JavaGuy
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LiveJournal kinda has a history... :eek:


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Dec 11 2005 10:32pm

Esta
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Sometimes suicide can be the only logical way out. When your life becomes focused on something so strongly that when that is taken away, the rest of your life just doesn't seem like it's worth living.

Suicide is never mindless, or a cry for attention.
Trust me on that one.
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Dec 11 2005 09:13pm

Setementor
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Sometimes life can be that hard. :(

Dec 11 2005 08:43pm

Mindrith Pride
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 Mindrith Pride

that is really sad... i really do not see the point in suicide
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Dec 11 2005 08:28pm

Dachande
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 Dachande

here in SI peopel commit suicide liek if itz the cool new thing to do...the sad part is that they say they will do it and no oen listens...and others jsu taunt them... so sad :(
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Dec 10 2005 07:19am

Ryu
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 Ryu

its so bad this things happened :(

R.I.P
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Dec 09 2005 04:06pm

Pink_Mintaka
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:(:(:(:(RIP:(:(:(:(

Dec 09 2005 01:16pm

Jade Jedi
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I had a good friend commit suicide a few years ago and unfortunatley I didn't see the signs untill after he was gone. I wish I knew then what I know now, but as they say hind sight is 20-20. R.I.P Mark i miss you mate.:(:mad::confused:
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Dec 09 2005 12:57pm

Raider
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 Raider

Not really fitted for this forum.


But tragic nonetheless, I know one who knew this guy, she's devastated.
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Dec 08 2005 04:59pm

Mic Den Octela
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 Mic Den Octela

Shameful thing is, i know people who are like this.

RIP
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Dec 05 2005 11:34pm

Alex Dkana
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terrible... :(
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Dec 04 2005 02:51am

Phantom
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 Phantom

the good die young... :(
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Dec 03 2005 11:57pm

CuZzA
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 CuZzA

My bad...
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