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Aiddat - Student  |
Vruki is working on a mod, since I'm the one on the computer at the moment, he requested I post this. He needs us all to think of cool force powers. List everything you can think of (well no really joky ones), offense and defensive, light and dark, ones from games, but go ahead and make stuff up. He's working on Force Fire. Snap your fingers, wave you hand, whatever, and watch your opponet (as long as he isn't Force resisting) burst into flames. SITHY!  So start listing.  EDIT: Link to a picture of early version Force fire: OUCH _______________ -Aiddat, the Gran with the green blades. "You have a right to be angry, but believe me when I say you don't want to feed that emotion." - Kyle Katarn {Owner of Liso Jowol's 550th comment, Conchris Chaotic's 80th, 150th and 350th comments, Pink Floyd's 200th comment Tyrant's 695th comment, D@RTHM@UL's 10600th comment}, accidentally tricked Pink Floyd into giving me his 1700th comment, I also have Alexander D'Kana's 1950th comment, Mindrith Pride's 1850th comment and I used the same accidental trick on Lewis's 100th comment, and I have Aiddat's 1992nd comment (birthyear), and #Elmo's 450th comment. Unsuccessfully tried to prove Senor Hat's theory wrong. Click for screenshots. Padawan of R2-D2. This post was edited by Aiddat on Feb 08 2006 09:43pm. |
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Sa'Un - Student 
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Before I red about that dark force blind, I got an idea: The Dark power of "Mind Poison", that makes your screen blur, and see non-actual objects, like it makes you hallucinate and hear weird sounds! That Would be scarry... and DARK! Maybe Ill try to photoshop what I have in mind... (It better be possible for you to make!!!)  _______________ "I Used to Be Schizophrenic, but We're OK Now..." |
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SaZ - Student 
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lol if u make these things work then it will be madmans game of choice )) _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Vruki Salet - Student 
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I like the visual illusions but maybe with care I could make the other stuff work too. Maybe there could be something like if you try to attack a confused guy that attack doesn't actually fire but acts as a "threat" that snaps the confused guy out of his confusion. So basically you could mind trick someone in wild ways as long as you didn't try to attack him. |
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SaZ - Student
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i think these confusion powers would totaly imbalance everything tahts why i like my ideas with visual illusions more _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Vruki Salet - Student
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Quote: switch the buttons for left and right strafe, and back and forward movements. That'd be.. confusing. That would be rough for a moment and then he's get used to it. But if they *kept* changing - that would be too rough! I think some of these things like confusion and insanity should randomly choose from a list of possible effects. The controls things could be one of them. I hadn't thought of it before. I don't think it would be hard to make that. |
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Dacascos - Lowly Urchin 
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Quote: Confusion is a fine addition to mind trick and fear. I already wanted insanity more like confusion than fear. Why not make confusion effect the controls, if that's even possible. I know jack about modding, so I dunno. But my point being, while confused, switch the buttons for left and right strafe, and back and forward movements. That'd be.. confusing. _______________ PSN: Argantes XBL: Ravencloak My destiny lies where my fate leads me... |
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Eica - Student 
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Force Punch, like force push except more powerful, but uses up a lot more mana. I think this force power exists in KOTOR, but has a different name. _______________ Former padawan of RoseRed |
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R2D2 - Staff 
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Only problem I have with Force Destruction, it got spammed way too much. _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try" Jedi Master Yoda Dual Saberist |
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Vruki Salet - Student
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Lief, I tend to agree with your anything goes idea. But I think your implosion idea is the one thing I just couldn't do! Well, unless I can get the game to let me scale down the models X and Y axes but not the Z axes... But even that I think would just work at spawn time and I don't think the point would be to make your opponent look like spaghetti when he respawned. Sazabi I already want to do your mind trick ideas under the name "insanity." What I was thinking for mind trick is when you're tricked and you try to attack the tricker and/or his allies you'll find your attack button won't work and instead you'll wave or make some kind of friendly gesture. It would be good if you would say "move along!" or "have a nice day" or something but not every model has an appropriate sound for it. Oh and I forgot, Majno. Your kind of levitation is one of the first thing we decided must be in there. My idea/plan is that you can lift something and then if you wish choose a direction to throw it. (Towards you, away, left or right.) That would be a real "grip" I think. The thing they call grip now would be that power combined with some hurting power. The basic catagories I had in mind were: Effect energy Effect mind and senses Effect object Effect person All powers would be derivatives of one or several of those skills combined, I guess. I haven't put tons of thought into it yet. This comment was edited by Vruki Salet on Feb 14 2006 02:13pm. |
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Aiddat - Student 
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Quote: From my point of view, any "Force" power imaginable is possible, only depending on the user's ability to concentrate that energy, no matter how small or how great, into whatever they wish. It's all about control of energy from what I understand. For example, in one of the Expanded Universe books, Luke Skywalker or someone made an illusion of a ship to trick the enemy. That's a bit different from the normal force grip and force push. If someone would like to solidify this example, please do. By the way, to contribute to this thread, I would think something along the lines of something exploding or imploding. Quote: I'd have to say like Vasper pointed out I think. Force Levitaion would be cool, to be able to gain control over opponent and levitate him in the air, ergo drop him or throw him around to do damage. You know like when Vader throws stuff at Luke in Ep4 duel. Or when Yoda levitates Lukes X-wing out of the swamp. Make it so one can grab opponent like with Force Grip, but the actual levitation control doesnt hurt, only what one does with what one has control over. Yeah, I think they're going to be divided into basic categories like 'telikenisis' and 'effect person' right Vruki? And there will be a Force Grasp or Hold or whatever, a harmless Grip. _______________ -Aiddat, the Gran with the green blades. "You have a right to be angry, but believe me when I say you don't want to feed that emotion." - Kyle Katarn {Owner of Liso Jowol's 550th comment, Conchris Chaotic's 80th, 150th and 350th comments, Pink Floyd's 200th comment Tyrant's 695th comment, D@RTHM@UL's 10600th comment}, accidentally tricked Pink Floyd into giving me his 1700th comment, I also have Alexander D'Kana's 1950th comment, Mindrith Pride's 1850th comment and I used the same accidental trick on Lewis's 100th comment, and I have Aiddat's 1992nd comment (birthyear), and #Elmo's 450th comment. Unsuccessfully tried to prove Senor Hat's theory wrong. Click for screenshots. Padawan of R2-D2. |
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SaZ - Student 
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Quote: From my point of view, any "Force" power imaginable is possible, only depending on the user's ability to concentrate that energy, no matter how small or how great, into whatever they wish. It's all about control of energy from what I understand. For example, in one of the Expanded Universe books, Luke Skywalker or someone made an illusion of a ship to trick the enemy. That's a bit different from the normal force grip and force push. If someone would like to solidify this example, please do. By the way, to contribute to this thread, I would think something along the lines of something exploding or imploding. i think that could be improved version of mindtrick. instead of losing sight of your opponent you should start seeing some scary visions, multiple copies of that opponent or something, that would look more like REAL MINDTRICK! _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Majno - Padawan 
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I'd have to say like Vasper pointed out I think. Force Levitaion would be cool, to be able to gain control over opponent and levitate him in the air, ergo drop him or throw him around to do damage. You know like when Vader throws stuff at Luke in Ep4 duel. Or when Yoda levitates Lukes X-wing out of the swamp. Make it so one can grab opponent like with Force Grip, but the actual levitation control doesnt hurt, only what one does with what one has control over. _______________ " You've just taken your first steps into a larger world. " - Ben. |
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Fire - Student 
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From my point of view, any "Force" power imaginable is possible, only depending on the user's ability to concentrate that energy, no matter how small or how great, into whatever they wish. It's all about control of energy from what I understand. For example, in one of the Expanded Universe books, Luke Skywalker or someone made an illusion of a ship to trick the enemy. That's a bit different from the normal force grip and force push. If someone would like to solidify this example, please do. By the way, to contribute to this thread, I would think something along the lines of something exploding or imploding. This comment was edited by Fire on Feb 14 2006 03:17am. |
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Vruki Salet - Student 
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Assuming that this things goes all the way, then all powers will be available to everyone but using some of them will lead a light-sider towards the dark side. Going all the way will incur some kind of penalty of the RPG kind like losing control of your character. The mod idea takes place during wartime so you'd think that it would be fine for "good guys" to use offensive powers as battlefield weapons but using them still requires tapping into strong negative emotions hence the dark taint. I like the idea of ripping stuff up by pure telekenis but I don't mind the ball of energy either. They're just 2 different skills, similar but for people with different skills or styles. |
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Aiddat - Student 
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Well there won't be the normal Force Point trading system in the role playing story mode. Jedi can use Force powers that hurt others, probably not lightning but stuff like grip is ok I think. _______________ -Aiddat, the Gran with the green blades. "You have a right to be angry, but believe me when I say you don't want to feed that emotion." - Kyle Katarn {Owner of Liso Jowol's 550th comment, Conchris Chaotic's 80th, 150th and 350th comments, Pink Floyd's 200th comment Tyrant's 695th comment, D@RTHM@UL's 10600th comment}, accidentally tricked Pink Floyd into giving me his 1700th comment, I also have Alexander D'Kana's 1950th comment, Mindrith Pride's 1850th comment and I used the same accidental trick on Lewis's 100th comment, and I have Aiddat's 1992nd comment (birthyear), and #Elmo's 450th comment. Unsuccessfully tried to prove Senor Hat's theory wrong. Click for screenshots. Padawan of R2-D2. |
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SaZ - Student
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force destruction is unrealistic power because of this 'shoots a ball of destruction'. it would be cool if you could just create destruction from nothing instead of launching some weird looking ball . i actually think jedi should have access to grip power(maybe weak one) or atleast some damaging version of push. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana This comment was edited by SaZ on Feb 13 2006 11:36am. |
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Dash Starlight - Jedi Instructor 
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I also remember a Force power called 'Force Destruction' from JK1. It would drain most of your Force Mana, shooting a very dammaging bolt of energy towards your opponent. It may be useful, but maybe it shouldnt drain one's forcepool as much. (Since you'll need to have some Force remaining.) Also, maybe it's an idea to make it so, both Light and Dark Jedi have access to all the force Powers. A true Jedi wouldn't use any of the Dark Force powers, such as Grip and Lightening. A Sith on the other side, has access to Absorb and Heal. They have an equal amount of Force Points to distribute, though. This way, a Jedi choosing the light path has a lot more points available for Absorb, Heal and most of the defensive powers. A Sith CAN use the Force to attack with, but will find himself being weak in Defensive powers, seeing his Points are already used up because of the use of the Dark Powers. _______________ The name is Bond. James Bond. This comment was edited by Dash Starlight on Feb 13 2006 11:22am. |
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SaZ - Student
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bump _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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R2D2 - Staff 
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Back in the days of JK1, Force Blind was an available power, along with Deadly Sight. Deadly sight wasn't a "realistic" power, but to go along with Saz's comment, Blind would definitely affect lighting. When having your target reticle on a person and using blind, that person gets an intense burst of light that wears off with time. Different levels would have varying ranges and active times. This power was available for Light Side only, but I always found it to be a more offensive type power. _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try" Jedi Master Yoda Dual Saberist |
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Vruki Salet - Student
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Confusion is a fine addition to mind trick and fear. I already wanted insanity more like confusion than fear. I was thinking of a set of powers that dealt with light and sound though I wasn't sure if they should be ones that effect the environment, i.e. the light and sound itself, or the senses of the victim, so that the enviroment is unchanged by the victim perceives it as dark or silent. Maybe both since each could be usable by someone with different areas of expertise. The first could be used by someone who's good an manipulating energy and/or inanimate matter and second by someone who's good at effecting minds. I like the block/reflect idea too. |
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Aiddat - Student
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The dark version of mind trick will probably be the fear/horror/insanity in KOTOR. Force push and move is probably going to become one power, Force Throw, and there's going to be a version of grip that doesn't do damage (and will probably be used on movable map objects like Count Dooku likes to do) called Force Hold or Force Grasp or Force Move or something like that. EDIT: Oh yes, some levels of Absorb should give you the Force Power you are absorbing, even if you don't have it. About the blocking, maybe there could be some sort of Force Sense that gives you a boost to your Dueling Defense Points (those are auto-block points). _______________ -Aiddat, the Gran with the green blades. "You have a right to be angry, but believe me when I say you don't want to feed that emotion." - Kyle Katarn {Owner of Liso Jowol's 550th comment, Conchris Chaotic's 80th, 150th and 350th comments, Pink Floyd's 200th comment Tyrant's 695th comment, D@RTHM@UL's 10600th comment}, accidentally tricked Pink Floyd into giving me his 1700th comment, I also have Alexander D'Kana's 1950th comment, Mindrith Pride's 1850th comment and I used the same accidental trick on Lewis's 100th comment, and I have Aiddat's 1992nd comment (birthyear), and #Elmo's 450th comment. Unsuccessfully tried to prove Senor Hat's theory wrong. Click for screenshots. Padawan of R2-D2. This comment was edited by Aiddat on Feb 09 2006 12:38pm. |
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SaZ - Student
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Force Confussion (dark version of mindtrick): i think i read about some 'early warning' thing in saber blocking so you can block things more easily. now that we know that sith are evil there should be a power for them to confuse opponent so liek instead of showing that you opponent is making a right swing u instead get a left side swing warning. ofcourse thats a bit lame and should be balanced with everything else etc. Force Shadows (lol): well you said its possible to manipulate weather with force powers so maybe its possible to change lightning of the area so liek after you use the power the light disappears totaly from the room. force reflection: not much of explanation needed here , got the idea from the ep3 yoda vs sidious battle. it could be turned to be replacement for absorb - like when you see a guy casting that offensive power on you you press this force reflect and it blocks that force power(on early force lvl) or even reflects it (at high lvls). just some ideas i could think of at the moment _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Vruki Salet - Student
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Tossing stuff as well as ppl is definately on the short list. I'll need mappers to work with me though to make sure there's movable stuff around to throw. If only there was a way to discreetly and uncheesily spawn debris that matched the textures of the map environment you were in... You know, so if you were in a ship in space you'd get boxes and pipes and stuff but if you were in the woods it'd be logs, etc. etc. Got that on the push anim. I agree. |
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student 
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force grip Items for the effect of levetation. and even throw them to do damage. That would make for more interesting duels, with object to use as projectiles. Even controling water or lava on a map. Not a force power. But better animation from being thrown by a force push. _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
This comment was edited by Vasper Ba'xian on Feb 09 2006 03:45am. |
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Vruki Salet - Student
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If someone can move this to the editing forum please do. The force powers don't actually have to be offensive or defensive. Just effects that would make for a cool setting or atmospherics would be good too. For example i'm considering one for high level sith - because it would involve sith magic along with force power - to change the weather. It wouldn't hurt anybody but it would look cool. (Although...damage by exposure to the elements...hmmm.) Oh these flaming stormtrooper pics are just from testing something that I added fire effects while goofing off. I'm not really making force powers yet. I just want a file of ideas for when the time comes. This comment was edited by Vruki Salet on Feb 08 2006 10:09pm. |
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