| Beating Grip Kickers | |
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Ian Jandos - Student  |
Every so often in my CTF exploits I run into a group of force users who exist solely for the purpose of FFA'ing flag carriers. I suppose part of the problem is that there are usually 2-3 of them. One will catch me with grip, then when I apply my absorb, one of them will do the pull/kick maneuver repeatively until I die or fall down, then another will stab me or saber throw while I try to get up. I have found that if I don't stand directly in front of them and work to get close enough I can usually saber the mess out of them, but this pull kick is very annoyoing. What are good counters/tactics for beating these kind of attackers. -Ian _______________ Member #7625 | Since 7.6.04 The Archives |
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Ian Jandos - Student 
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I suppose it's more of a FFA question anyway, because sometimes during a CTF game you just want to mix it up because that's what they're waiting for...but good points Virt.  -Ian _______________ Member #7625 | Since 7.6.04 The Archives This comment was edited by Ian Jandos on Apr 22 2006 06:23pm. |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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Counters are often generally taught in classes anyway.  |
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Tigerclaw - Student 
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That is very impressive Virtue. I don't play CTF myself, but what you just said is pretty brilliant really. It makes me realise that I do absolutely nothing with this game you know. What about a class dedicated to 'counters' I'd guess you'd call them. That would be awesome. Or is there a post dedicated to the moves? Something to think about maybe? _______________ Geriatric single User, with a touch of Staff now and again. Influenced by Dash Starlight, Jaina. Janus, and Gradius in staff. And in yellow stance. Jaina D'Kana, who really helped me when I first joined the Academy and Jaiko D'Kana, who's classes I took in the begining. Proud owner of _Muro_'s 400th ACK! comment. Avatar by the one and only Majno . Padawan to Dash Starlight |
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Virtue - Jedi Council 
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Well, there's a couple of things you could do, not saying they would all work famously, but they're something to try, I guess. What about Mind Trick? In CTF, people will set their Force Powers up specifically so that they can best manipulate the current sutuation - for Dark Siders it'd be Grip, Drain, Push, Pull, Speed, Saber Throw etc. Most of these would be on full rank... not many people would bother with Force Seeing, as CTF in JK3 is too fast to worry about it... People can't pull+kick what they can't see. Another one is using Absorb to break the Grip, then Protect to fend off the kicking while using your Lightsaber to damage the kickers. If you're using the Standard Lightsaber, you could do a Blue Kata, then simply have people pull you over to them with it... you may still get kicked, but you'd damage them more than they'd damage you... hence, they'd die before you would. Also, crouchwhore alot with whatever Lightsaber or Stance you're using. In order to kick, one would need to double-tap the jump button - when you are standing up, they don't need to double-tap very quickly because they have a large target... but if you're crouching, if they tap jump once, you may be too low for them to catch you with the second tap of jump. Making it so that if they wanted to kick you, they'd have to double-tap jump very fast to pull it off. Lastly, make sure you're swinging all the time, especially when crouching (I know it's CTF, you should be running for home, not crouching. But hey, if you find yourself in this situation, you need to make sure you're safe before you carry on running, right?) when you're swinging, Force Pull is 100% effective on you, so you'll be pulled right into them, while attacking, combine the speed that your body is travelling with the velocity of your Lightsaber swings and you'll hit them quite hard, especially with a combo. Plus you'll be harder to kick if you're crouching. Just a few ideas that you could use, try them all or none at all, they're all free! LoL - Virtue.  _______________ Academy Architect This comment was edited by Virtue on Apr 21 2006 07:17pm. |
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D@RtHM@UL - Student 
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Quote: You can kick with the staff saber too. Wouldn't really call that a kick  |
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Ian Jandos - Student 
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Strafe Jumping isn't the problem, getting pull-whorred is  It's basically people who aren't there to have their own fun. JA+ doesn't bother me either, but is there a good counter? -Ian _______________ Member #7625 | Since 7.6.04 The Archives |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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You can kick with the staff saber too. |
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Ashyr - Student 
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Quote: cant ban them its a game mechanic, cant ban people for using it, that would be like banning people from JK2 for kick DFA with the red stance, hell it was annoying as hell but u couldnt ban for it You can... EDIT: Shouldn't this be in the JKA forum? _______________ Top ten reasons to get a better computer...|My fan This comment was edited by Ashyr on Apr 21 2006 06:59am. |
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Sared - Retired 
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If you're in JO, then learn to strafejump faster. If it's JA, then play on a server that doesn't use JA+. edit:// kickRDFA FOR THE WIN.  _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. This comment was edited by Sared on Apr 21 2006 05:47am. |
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JavaGuy - Student 
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I loved kick-DFA! _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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SaZ - Student 
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the kicking itself was most annoying thing in jk2 anywayz if its you vs 3 cheapz0rz... where is your damn team? _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget 
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cant ban them its a game mechanic, cant ban people for using it, that would be like banning people from JK2 for kick DFA with the red stance, hell it was annoying as hell but u couldnt ban for it _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are
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Setementor - Jedi Master
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Banning them! |
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