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Bubu - Hubbub  |
So like... I'm in Israel right now. The situation isn't pretty and I have my own views about it but I'd like to hear yours. Discuss. _______________ make install -not war |
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Bubu - Hubbub 
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Lol Buzz I'm not even going to dignify that with a response.  Right on, tarpman. That article is fairly accurate and paints quite a scary picture. A picture in which, if Iran gets involved, we have World War III. And for lack of a better blessing, may the goddamn force be with you, Nati. _______________ make install -not war |
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N@TI - Student 
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me and my friends? we are the newbie recruts... if there's war we gonna be the ones to fight it, about where I serve is confidential so i can't say much, but lots of my friens go to paratroops and givati, we have few at the navi(heil ah yam) too. _______________ Blue! blue stance for ever!!! oh ye : owner of dash's "GOM!!11!! it's purple'" *1800* comment!!! owner of Wicek 3333rd "cool guys use Yellow sabers" post. Kyle Katarn is the new jedi order BattleMaster... meaning he is better then Luke in saber fighting! HA TAKE THAT SKYWALKER FAN's! |
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tarpman - The Tarped Avenger 
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This column, which I read in the paper this morning, sums up my point of view quite well. Of course I disagree with killing civilians, and I have nothing against Muslims, but it's true that the international community tends to be somewhat ineffective at truly terminating terrorist threats. In other news, alliteration FTW.  _______________ Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time. |
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Buzz - Student 
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Hey Bubu, check out this brilliant insight into gettinge peace in the middle east. Its a quote from someone who actually believes this is an idea that will work. Quote: I haven’t seen any of you come up with a viable solution to help the Muslims and Jews learn to live peacefully, except to nuke 1 billion people. That is a disgusting idea. Arranged marriages have been around for a long time, throughout several civilizations. I propose the idea of x amount of Muslim men marry Jewish women and live on the Gaza strip and in other parts of the region and raise families. No one else here has come up with any other viable solutions except me. It’s the only solution that doesn’t involve killing others or taking away land or even disrupting religious beliefs. I believe a Jewish woman can handle being married to a Muslim man. That'll work won't it? _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Bubu - Hubbub
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Yes I realize they have Iranian missiles, but so far they haven't reached past Nazareth and their launchers have been pushed back to Beirut, so I can only hope they won't reach further south. Where do you serve? My cousin is in Nahal. Gdud 50. He was just released from mandatory service a few months back. I hope they don't call him in now for miluim. Our soldiers don't get enough praise and recognition for the shit they go through for the country. _______________ make install -not war |
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N@TI - Student
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Quote: No worries, I'm safe so far. I'm about 150km from the Lebanon border. The Hezbolla's rockets have reached about 50km inland so far. I hope they don't get farther yo bro... i live in israel too.. in ashdod in case you havn't heard the news they have rockets from IRAN... rockets that can do 150km easily.. the thing i'm most worried about is me and my friends cause a lot of us got called to service and it's kinda sick.. man... it's harsh _______________ Blue! blue stance for ever!!! oh ye : owner of dash's "GOM!!11!! it's purple'" *1800* comment!!! owner of Wicek 3333rd "cool guys use Yellow sabers" post. Kyle Katarn is the new jedi order BattleMaster... meaning he is better then Luke in saber fighting! HA TAKE THAT SKYWALKER FAN's! This comment was edited by N@TI on Jul 19 2006 01:18pm. |
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{JF}Jesse - Student |
The basic impression that I am getting from this is that Muslim extremists funded by the government once again provoke someone and then when Israel responds with force they start to cry. Now I don't know the conditions of the Muslim prisoners Israel is holding but if they are already guilty or are being questioned in a non-guantanamo(or however you spell it) situation, then Hezobollah should not get his men back under any circumstances. |
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JamesF1 - Student 
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The BBC *are* incredibly biased, but when they're owned and funded by national government, what do you expect? The BBC are incredibly anti-Israel in all of their reporting. The reporters they send to any middle-eastern conflict involving Israel are all anti-Israeli, which you can tell from their reports. The reports are always along the line of "Israel has been doing this - check out these poor, hard-done-by Palestinian people. BAD BAD ISRAEL." They even managed to turn last night's report, on the news, about Hezbollah into an anti-Israeli report even AFTER a civillian said to the reporter "We hate Israel, we will wipe Israel out completely." I never take anything from the media in the UK (and, indeed, other areas) as containing truth, I'd rather find out the information from more reliable sources. _______________ Website This comment was edited by JamesF1 on Jul 18 2006 10:32am. |
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Buzz - Student 
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BBC = Biased British Crap. And if you want evidence of that, North Korea actually allows it to be shown in their hotels _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. This comment was edited by Buzz on Jul 18 2006 12:51am. |
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Bubu - Hubbub 
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Quite so. I spent almost all night comparing between news reports in English, in other words, non-israeli, and reports in Hebrew. Text, video, everything. Too bad I don't read Arabic or I would have read Lebanese reports too. I found so many holes in the English news it's not even funny. They report whatever the hell they want to report, and post some pictures of buildings exploding and lebanese people covered in blood. They are basically painting a picture. They are not reporting news, they are attempting to quietly instill an anti-israeli image in people's minds and they are not even telling half the story. It's sickening, frankly. And I'm not just swallowing the Hebrew news here, I actually know pretty much first hand. I have cousins in the army, I know a lot of people who live up north close to the border, I even know a couple of Lebanese guys. There are warplanes flying overhead all the time and the situation is all people talk about, understandably. It pisses me off when all journalists care about is their scoop and satisfying the sponsors. When you read "news" from the Middle East, try to avoid the big networks like CNN and BBC. EDIT: By the way: Quote: Lebanese TV showed footage of what it said was an Israeli F-16 fighter aircraft falling from the sky over Beirut in flames, but Israel said none of its aircraft had been shot down, and said it was a missile That's from the BBC. Not only did they say it was a missile, they also showed that footage in its entirety. It shows an israeli bombardment of a weapons cache, in which, quite clearly, one of the missiles catches fire and starts spiralling upwards out of control and later falls to the ground, which is what they claimed was an Israeli plane. _______________ make install -not war This comment was edited by Bubu on Jul 18 2006 12:44am. |
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JamesF1 - Student 
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I quite agree Alon, all I'm saying is that people can't say it isn't fair... it's FAR MORE than fair. _______________ Website |
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Bubu - Hubbub
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And dropping leaflets is too much if you ask me. Not just innocent civilans get the message, hostiles too. You think the Hezbollah reads the leaflets and goes "Oh that's not for me"? _______________ make install -not war |
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JamesF1 - Student
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Well, to be honest, I can see where people are coming from saying Israel is going over the top (I'm supporting Israel, BTW). However, what more can you ask... Prior to commencing bombing, Israel: 1) Published a demand for the return of kidnapped persons - threatening attacks if the demands were not met. 2) Air-dropped leaflets on all of the areas they intended to bomb/attack advising civillians to leave the area. Don't tell me that's not giving fair warning, and plenty of chance to avert a crisis. _______________ Website |
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Buzz - Student
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Well I'll just post a part of a comment from someone else on another website to show how screwed up the world response is, and its also a dig at the idiocy and wrongness of the useless nations: Quote: But the only thing the UNSC has tried to do was to try to put out a resolution that condemned Israel. (It’s been months now, and the UNSC can’t manage to find anything to do about either Iran or North Korea, but a terrorist group attacks Israel and kidnaps some soldiers, and it takes less than 48 hours to condemn Israel for daring to respond. Nothing about Syria, nothing about Hamas, nothing about Hezbollah, nothing about Iranian Republican Guards being the ones who fired the Chinese-made short-range cruise missile into an Israeli warship, nothing about that - just the standard “It’s all the JOOOOOOOS’ fault!"  _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Bubu - Hubbub
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You have no idea how much that "disproportionate response" bullcrap pissed off the Israeli public. But it's understandable. This conflict fuels a lot of their economies, so they say whatever they can in order to perpetuate it. _______________ make install -not war This comment was edited by Bubu on Jul 17 2006 05:28pm. |
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Buzz - Student
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Disproportionate Response _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Bubu - Hubbub
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Quote: o_o Please tell me you're making arrangements to be leaving soon... No, I'm not. Both my grandmas live here, two aunts, two uncles, and five cousins. And a lot more slightly more distant relatives and friends. There is no way I'll just pack up and leave as soon as things get a little hot and leave them all behind. I only come here once a year and I fully intend to stay the entire planned period. And I'm not scared. This is home after all. Hell, if it comes to all out war, I'll even stay and enlist in the army. But it won't come to that. _______________ make install -not war |
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Buzz - Student
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Quote: No worries, I'm safe so far. I'm about 150km from the Lebanon border. The Hezbolla's rockets have reached about 50km inland so far. I hope they don't get farther. I found this site just now which lays out my views pretty well. The animations at the bottom pretty much explain all the background. The stuff happening today is just more of the same. There's also a powerpoint presentation out there somewhere that shows all these organizations and events that talk about a free and independent palestine. Every single image of a Free and independent palestine is that of the complete state of Israel. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Mic Den Octela - Student 
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Watch yourself out there man. Keep us as informed as possible! Same as Sared here.. just take care out there! _______________ -Padawan of Virtue -Brother of Menaxia, *|irael, Krynn Adept, Majno, Ris Win Juljul, DaMi3N, Beowulf, Dash Starlight, Carrock and Yuken Zalak Bartender at Munes bar. Sir Mic of Nippledom! Proudly beating Wang, since '07. (Crackdown) |
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tarpman - The Tarped Avenger 
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o_o Please tell me you're making arrangements to be leaving soon... _______________ Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time. |
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Bubu - Hubbub
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No worries, I'm safe so far. I'm about 150km from the Lebanon border. The Hezbolla's rockets have reached about 50km inland so far. I hope they don't get farther. I found this site just now which lays out my views pretty well. The animations at the bottom pretty much explain all the background. The stuff happening today is just more of the same. _______________ make install -not war |
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CuZzA - Student 
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Stay safe mate _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world |
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Dicemaster - Student 
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I love my old bubu, i forgot you were in isreal....be safe man! (o and i'm on your side) hehe _______________ Dicemaster |
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xAnAtOs - Student |
ya, same as sared. goodluck2utho _______________ Brother to Luke Skywalker and (SKX) Dark Blade 
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Sared - Retired 
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Take care of yourself man. I don't know enough about the situation to say anything yet. _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
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