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Heroes *SPOILERS APLENTY*
Jan 17 2007 04:16am

xAnAtOs
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Hope there isn't already a thread about this... has anyone else been watching this show? Just watched the first 11 episodes and I think it's freaken awesome; plot, characters, super powers - all of it. I'm hearing Season 1 continues this Monday. Any takers?
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This post was edited by xAnAtOs on May 11 2007 02:58am.

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Dec 09 2008 10:05pm

Cuthalion
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 Cuthalion

Just a question of 'When will Peter get his power back?' i'm guessing. You could tell that Peter really misses having powers though I thought. Telling the Haitian to wait.

Hiro is gonna be ok, like I said i'm not really fussed on him. He was actually better as a 10 year old, he went from being jovial to a miserable git. Sylar is awesome though, I have to admit I didnt like him originally, but now he's come into his own.
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Dec 09 2008 09:29pm

SaZ
 - Student
 SaZ

finally a decent episode. loved the whole hiro stuff, tho arthur ruined the fun : <
well he is dead now mugagagaga : >
that soldier got super strength... damn that power is getting old lol
sylar... is awesome : P
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Dec 09 2008 09:20pm

Cuthalion
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 Cuthalion

Huzzah! Arthur is finally dead! Yay!!!!! I dont really care about Hiro, he'll come back. Peter will get some of his powers back and Sylar, well. He has his uses. :)
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Dec 05 2008 10:34am

Cuthalion
 - Padawan
 Cuthalion

Either way the final 2 episodes better be something special.
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Dec 05 2008 01:36am

R2D2
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 R2D2

I thought the last episode was pretty decent.

As for the Haitian scene, it was not filler in my opinion. Peter and Nathan developed as characters. We see Peter coming to terms with his powerless self, and still managing to be useful without them. Nathan also acknowledges Peter as being right for once. Probably the most important consequence of that scene was Nathan coming to the realization that giving powers to normal people may help the world get rid of people like the Haitian's bro. He makes the decision to help his father with the formula.

I knew Elle wouldn't last long hanging around with Sylar. However, her interaction with him helped Sylar cope with the "hunger" until he got his powers back after the Eclipse.

I believe Mohinder was still mutating while in the Pinehurst lab. Maybe not as rapidly as before, but he was still progressing towards becoming the monster.

The comic book store scenes were my favorite. Seth Green as a guest star was rather cool. I wonder what will play out for that last comic that Isaac gave away. Perhaps Ando and Parkman will look for it, or wait for Hiro to return with his memories returned. Hiro teleporting to save the Bennett family from Sylar was quite epic.
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This comment was edited by R2D2 on Dec 05 2008 01:36am.

Dec 03 2008 10:35am

Cuthalion
 - Padawan
 Cuthalion

Im gonna have to agree with SaZ,

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peter lost his powers. its no problem tbh. arthur was gathering the bad guys etc, but they really stalled all that shit. its like they go with storylines untill they go real badass and cool and then stall.


Peter will probably get his original power back because of the eclipse and just have to start going around collecting them up again. Big whoop!

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elle... they tried to make her look important. sort of main-character-like. it never looked that way tho. and she died... well yeah she was cute and stuff, but seriously she could have died ages ago and no one would have noticed or give a shit.


Elle, bless her, shes dead. I feel bad, next to claire she was the second hottest woman on the show now maya ha gone. But seen as we've seen the future with Peter you have to assume that most of this crap has happened before. And slowly but surely the story line well get back to normal.

Also what the hell as Nathan doing. What an Idiot!

As for the Haitian, that truely is a plot filler. Although i did anjoy Hiro wizzing about the place moving people around, Im guessing because he has the mental age of a 10 year old he hasn't realised all the crap that goes down when he messes with time and space. Anyway, only 2 more episodes before the break, so they better be good, because I wanna see Arthur get his ass handed to him!

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Dec 03 2008 09:54am

SaZ
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 SaZ

HRG was always the best.
except when he was 'you know i want to protect you at all costs' thing that got kinda repetitive at one point of the series.

why lame? what was the point of eclipse really?
to everyone go mad and kill each other? then again they can heal their wounds.

the whole haitian thing in the jungle. true example of a filler in tv series.

HRG cutting sylars throat? that looked good.
but when such cool things mean absolutely nothing in the end...

Hiro is cool. he was always solid character. the writers themselves sometimes do shit with his story tho.

peter lost his powers. its no problem tbh. arthur was gathering the bad guys etc, but they really stalled all that shit. its like they go with storylines untill they go real badass and cool and then stall.

elle... they tried to make her look important. sort of main-character-like. it never looked that way tho. and she died... well yeah she was cute and stuff, but seriously she could have died ages ago and no one would have noticed or give a shit.

they can go and kill all the secondary characters etc, but its only interesting if main chars are involved in the twists.

oh btw... global eclipse isnt possible. im not into all that realistic crap, but that was idiotic.
also since the moon moves from left to right... how the hell at one point AFTER THE FULL ECLIPSE there was a 'gap for sunlight' at the RIGHT side of eclipse? it would mean that moon would move from left to right , form the full eclipse and then go back to the left again... im not sure how the hell would that happen in real life...
i loved how heroes were sort of realistic in most of ways except the people having powers. things with eclipse turns this into fantasy show.
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This comment was edited by SaZ on Dec 03 2008 10:05am.

Dec 03 2008 08:34am

Mister Clutch
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 Mister Clutch

Lol u guys are crazy. The eclipse part2 is like the best episode ever. It really gave me back te old season one feeling.

At last the episodes are going back ON TRACK. Which is partly due that the writer "Aron Eli Coleite" from season's 1 best episode "Six months ago" is back as a writer on heroes because his own show has been cancelled (Pushing daisy's).

Seriously, its like with every week they get better and better.
How did u not enjoy HRG going all badass on Sylar and Elle. Even though he hasen't any powers, he's still like the most gangsta character on the show.

How Hiro and Ando go back to their old roots. The comicbook scéne was just great.

When Sylar was about to slit HRG's throat and Hiro teleports in and is like "BAD MAN", alastavista Sylar. Cya later Elle!
It was done in such a awesome way, Hiro who's finaly using his full potential again.

I LUB HEROES SO MUCH AGAIN

Dec 02 2008 05:47pm

SaZ
 - Student
 SaZ

k last episode was lame, random etc.


heroes should find a new director or something, because this is really goin downhill.
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Nov 29 2008 10:15pm

Cuthalion
 - Padawan
 Cuthalion

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eclipse makes everyone powerless while eclipse is active i guess.

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Are Nathan and Peter on the Island, have lost had a cross over episode?


i dont understand what are you saying tbh :D


Lol, I know that they've gone to find the Haitian, it just looked liked theyed walked onto a Lost set that all. I hope the next episodes explain alot more, because currently the series is crap.
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Nov 28 2008 05:46pm

Monteeeeeee
 - Nugget
 Monteeeeeee

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What the frig was the eclipse about. Are Nathan and Peter on the Island, have lost had a cross over episode?


peter and nathan have gone to get the haitian, in have got to him i think him stop the haitian's brother who is doing bad things to the villagers ? i cant remember the small details as i watched it earlier this week, been busy at work to keep it in my fore front of memory
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Nov 28 2008 12:24pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

eclipse makes everyone powerless while eclipse is active i guess.

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Are Nathan and Peter on the Island, have lost had a cross over episode?


i dont understand what are you saying tbh :D
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This comment was edited by SaZ on Nov 28 2008 12:26pm.

Nov 28 2008 12:01am

Cuthalion
 - Padawan
 Cuthalion

What the frig was the eclipse about. Are Nathan and Peter on the Island, have lost had a cross over episode?
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Nov 19 2008 10:51pm

Cuthalion
 - Padawan
 Cuthalion

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im sure it will all come together, so far i've followed it pretty easily


It's not that hard to follow, but as SaZ said, the story line seems to be in fragments at the moment, as if the writers as still undecided with which direction they want to take it in, or just how many more series they want out of the show. Like lost originally 3 now 5.

What they need is Wolverine.. Give him a few red bull's. Everyone is as good as dead!
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Nov 19 2008 10:07pm

Monteeeeeee
 - Nugget
 Monteeeeeee

im sure it will all come together, so far i've followed it pretty easily
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Nov 19 2008 07:07pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

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it seems heroes is now full of short stories.
like 'wow thats cool, lets show that to the viewers'.
after that they just forget about it and stall it :|
i cant even count how many of such shit happened already.
mohinders mutation, peter getting sylars power to get the things right, hiros pursuit to get the things right.


Then Peter losing his powers, but carrying on the story, I totally agree. Its like the writers are confused as to where they want to go with it all.


yeah. what was the point of peter getting sylars power then? arthur could have stolen peters power before that : >
too many things that look cool when alone, but have no purpose when you look at the story of heroes as a whole.
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Nov 19 2008 06:54pm

Cuthalion
 - Padawan
 Cuthalion

Quote:

it seems heroes is now full of short stories.
like 'wow thats cool, lets show that to the viewers'.
after that they just forget about it and stall it :|
i cant even count how many of such shit happened already.
mohinders mutation, peter getting sylars power to get the things right, hiros pursuit to get the things right.


Then Peter losing his powers, but carrying on the story, I totally agree. Its like the writers are confused as to where they want to go with it all.
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Nov 19 2008 06:41pm

SaZ
 - Student
 SaZ

something more:
like 5 episodes ago mohinder was turning into monster.
now what? how the hell did his hunger disappear? why did his mutation stop?

no explanations.

: /

it seems heroes is now full of short stories.
like 'wow thats cool, lets show that to the viewers'.
after that they just forget about it and stall it :|
i cant even count how many of such shit happened already.
mohinders mutation, peter getting sylars power, hiros pursuit to get the things right.

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This comment was edited by SaZ on Nov 19 2008 07:00pm.

Nov 19 2008 01:59pm

Cuthalion
 - Padawan
 Cuthalion

I was dssapointed by the whole thing. Because the series is so long (either 24 or 26 episodes) Its seems like they are padding out episodes with rubbish, just to hit the 40 minute mark. Peter obviously gets his powers back, The Haitian obviously comes into play so they can either stop or slow down Arthur. Angela, although at the moment hates Arthur, also still loves him, and we all know he still loves her because he let her go. The eclipse is more than likely going to give people either thier powers back, or the prohibit the people with powers from using them. Although I hope something relatively good happens to compensate for the recently lacking storyline. Claire on the other hand,
"I think im the catalyst..."
I didnt really think this show could become any more predictable. Clearly I was wrong. I would liek to stop watching it, but having watched every episode so far it I find myself compelled to watch the next episodes, to find out what will happen next. Although as Solitude pointed out yesterday on the IRC, the plot line is becoming more and more plagerised.
Although, I may be entirely wrong. Anyone have any suggestions?

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This comment was edited by Cuthalion on Nov 19 2008 02:00pm.

Nov 18 2008 08:36pm

SaZ
 - Student
 SaZ

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Hiro went back in time. Adam got his powers around the time of the Eclipse in the past.


so what? he still experienced two eclipses, even tho he cheated in a way.

also. there wasnt an eclipse before the one that happened in season 1.
then how the hell did the 'circle of parents' (lol - angela, arthur, parkmans father etc) get their powers without an eclipse?
why didnt they lose their powers when the season 1 eclipse happened?
i think it means eclipse has some sort of other effect. maybe it amplifies or weakens certain powers... probably those who are destined to have powers will get them sooner than in natural way.
im thinking that peter and maya will regain their abilities.

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Hiro is a 10-year old pretty much because Mr. Petrelli was deleting his memories (not sure why he didnt take his power too, either way, Mr. Petrelli has it).

that i understand. hmm maybe he didnt take power, because he had it already? he teleported to africa and back anyway. maybe... he cant take the same power twice. which might be an advantage for our heroes in future.
what i meant by lame is that hiro went through so much only to get his memory wiped? it was a disappointment really. i expected that to twist the main storyline somehow.

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Not really sure how Claire turned out being the catalyst. I would have thought she needed contact with each of our heroes before their powers were activated.


i guess by catalyst they meant that she is the key to the formula not to those who got their powers naturally.
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This comment was edited by SaZ on Nov 18 2008 08:40pm.

Nov 18 2008 04:21pm

R2D2
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 R2D2

Hiro went back in time. Adam got his powers around the time of the Eclipse in the past.

Hiro is a 10-year old pretty much because Mr. Petrelli was deleting his memories (not sure why he didnt take his power too, either way, Mr. Petrelli has it).

Not really sure how Claire turned out being the catalyst. I would have thought she needed contact with each of our heroes before their powers were activated.
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Nov 18 2008 09:23am

SaZ
 - Student
 SaZ

hmmm the sylar doesnt have to open brains anymore? : (
that sux!
also how the hell did the pain go away for El ?
hiro 10y old?
oh ffs.. the writers are probably desperate and didnt know how to continue that part of the story.
its like hiro goes through so much trouble to see things and then BOOM. :(
also i cant really see the purpose of nathan. his power is pointless, eclipse should get him a new power damnit.
then the speedy girl. i dont like her as an actor. a lame girl :|

and no eclipse wont take away their powers.
remember - hiro saw eclipse twice already.
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This comment was edited by SaZ on Nov 18 2008 11:24am.

Nov 18 2008 03:08am

R2D2
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 R2D2

Just saw the new Heroes episode. The Eclipse will be interesting... suppose to have the reverse effect from the first eclipse.
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Nov 16 2008 11:48pm

Monteeeeeee
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 Monteeeeeee

24 is back soon :D w00t :D
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Nov 16 2008 08:31pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

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I didnt quite understand what Noah meant when he said when in the van with Elle something like "he can move powers from one person to another". When all he really does is take powers for himself. I really hope Peter gets his powers back because at the moment Arthur's just whooping everyone. He needs a good old fashioned beat down. Someone needs to finds the Haitian!


what you didnt understand? :)
most of the characters have multiple abilities related to some main one.
maybe sylar can open arthurs brain and then give all the powers to the respective owners? lol

anyway i saw an advertisement showing that another 'eclipse' is coming. i wonder what effect will it have.
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This comment was edited by SaZ on Nov 16 2008 08:31pm.

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