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Alex Dkana - Staff  |
Not sure how many here read the EU Star Wars books but there has just been a very interesting one anounced for Feburary '08.
This hardcover is going to be written by Matthew Woodring Stover, one of the most talented authors to ever right Star Wars fiction (well most agree to that anyway), he is also critically aclaimed for his fantasy series based around a hero called Caine. It will be set aproximately 1 year after RotJ and will focus on Luke Skywalker's last battle as a General in the Rebellion. The villain is called 'Lord Shadowspawn', an admitadly slightly rediculous name, however i have a feeling this will be a really good read. Its set to include: Jedi (well Lukey boy anyway), the heroes from the films, Rogue Squadron, Mandalorians and the crazy imperial villains themselves. Anyone interested? Battle of Mindor. Official Anouncement _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana |
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Rinzler - Student 
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MORE LIKE THE SHADOWS OF MORDOR LOL _______________ I fite for teh usars!1 |
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Buzz - Student 
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Oh for lumiya's revelation about vergere, I think she was lying out of her teeth. Everything she's said to him has been lies. Such as his shadow duel with Luke. She claimed it was Luke Skywalker with enhancements from the darkside power in that cave. It was actually just Lukes abilities period. And even with all of Jacen's extensive knowledge in the Force Luke was still besting him.
And they had better make it that she was lying out of her teeth or else it will leave an even bigger plot hole for me than the mistake in Bloodlines about how they forgot that Boba Fett/Hurrm was unmasked in the last NJO novel. I've liked Ben so far. Hated how Jacen has been manipulating him since the dark swarm though. So he's basically been manipulated, and also has a lot of pressure on him so it all fits well. He's a young kid that wants to be treated as an adult and equal and not seen as just Skywalker's son. His attachment to Jacen is completely understandable as well. Mara is the one with the problem, turning a blind eye to Jacen's descent and blaming it on love when she should probably be the one most in tune to what has been happening to him, with all the time she spent in the company of the emperor. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Alex Dkana - Staff 
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I just finished Exile, and i'd say Allston has done a good job of sorting out a few characters characterisations, such as Han and Ben. Its probably my favourite book in the series so far actually.
In regards to Jacen, yeah thats kind of what i meant, i meant that the writers have chosen for him to take that route and to interpret Vergere's teachings in the way that he has. I would of liked to have seen him in a more neutral role, however he makes an interesting villain. I agree about Jacen's selflessness/selfishness. Its exactly that; he is misguided, and perhaps naive despite all he has been through. He does not realise that in pursuing his goal of complete peace and order, he is destroying everything he has stood for, well actually thats not true, he does realise but he has gone past the point where he cares (at least as of Exile). I agree 100% about Vergere, although i think it far more likely that Lumiya was not telling the truth, or at least the whole truth with Jacen, afterall her 'revelation' about Vergere was one major reason for his fall. Don't know what your views on Ben are, but he is much more likable in Exile in my opinion, although i have quite liked his portrayal so far overal. Sacrifice is looking to be very interesting... _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana |
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Buzz - Student
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Quote: Got to agree there, overall i'm enjoying the LotF series, but the direction they have taken with Jacen's character is a bit disappointing. I really liked what Stover did with the character in Traitor, and i can't help but feel that making Jacen the next Sith was not his intention.
The distortion of Vergere has been irritating as well, although i'm still holding out for the hope that a later book disproves the claims that she was Dark. I haven't started on Tempest yet, but its not really that I'm disappointed in Jacen's character turn from a writing standpoint. Han's character is the one I've been disappointed in so far in that aspect. I'm disappointed in the character Jacen. He hasn't taken the full lesson to heart. There is no darkside of the Force, but there is a darkside to him. Vergere was teaching him to not be a Jedi. The problem is that he has taken the skills he has used, and used them in a manner a Jedi would. That cannot be done. He's also failed in the lesson the Luke learned in Vision of the Future. Selflessness is the essence of the lightside and selfishness is the essence of the darkside. You would think that Jacen's 'selfless' goal of bringing peace to the galaxy would be light, but its a goal he wants, in a manner that he wants, and he is selfishly ignoring the people around him. He's constantly looking for reassurance that he is not following vader's path while only looking at portions and not the whole. With Vergere I absolutely agree. The way she has been written there is no way she could be a sith adept who has trained with Palpatine. Her lessons were not to teach Jacen to become a Sith only to utilize the full potential of the Force. She did not want him to take titles and Sith is certainly as much of a title as Jedi is which she did not like his stating. She also could not even have been aware of Palpatine. If she was there was no reason she would have been curious about why the Jedi only numbered at most a few hundred and not the full force she was expecting to oppose the Yuuzhan Vong on her return. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Alex Dkana - Staff
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Quote: I think Stover will do a very good job since that will seem to deal with more philosophy of the Force like he did with Traitor. Its such a shame that the Legacy of the Force series has caused Jacen to utterly destroy the lessons he should have learned in that novel.
Got to agree there, overall i'm enjoying the LotF series, but the direction they have taken with Jacen's character is a bit disappointing. I really liked what Stover did with the character in Traitor, and i can't help but feel that making Jacen the next Sith was not his intention. The distortion of Vergere has been irritating as well, although i'm still holding out for the hope that a later book disproves the claims that she was Dark. _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana |
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Buzz - Student
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I think Stover will do a very good job since that will seem to deal with more philosophy of the Force like he did with Traitor. Its such a shame that the Legacy of the Force series has caused Jacen to utterly destroy the lessons he should have learned in that novel. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Alex Dkana - Staff
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Quote: Ah, yeah, finally a Star Wars novel taking place during the good old days right after ROTJ. I think the book will be excellent, but I think Stover will overdo the disgusting battle imagery. If you've read Shatterpoint, you'll know what I mean. Personally, I would have preferred if Timothy Zahn or Troy Denning were to write it. They just write Star Wars better.
Personally i really enjoy Stover's portrayal of the Star Wars universe. His 'disgusting battle imagery' could easily be viewed as battles being written realistically, i thought Shatterpoint did a good job of describing the kind of hellish conditions you would get in that circumstance. I like Zahn and Denning, however for this book (one about a brutal battle with high casualties, and one that caused Luke Skywalker to revoke his position in the military due to the loss of life) i think Stover is the perfect person to choose. Should be interesting to see how he writes the OT characters as well. _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana |
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Falor Windrider - Student 
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Ah, yeah, finally a Star Wars novel taking place during the good old days right after ROTJ. I think the book will be excellent, but I think Stover will overdo the disgusting battle imagery. If you've read Shatterpoint, you'll know what I mean. Personally, I would have preferred if Timothy Zahn or Troy Denning were to write it. They just write Star Wars better. _______________ Jedi Knight of the Jedi Order [JO] www.thejedi-order.com |
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LoneWolf_ Mintaka - Student 
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I am a big fan of the EU and really like the Legacy of the Force Series of books. I practically by the books as they come off the press. Then read it in a day or so and wait for the next  _______________ Honor, still counts for something. Loyalty, is hard to come by. Integrity, is something to strive for. |
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