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Who's Your favourite guitar player ?
I've been a fan of John 5 before he made his solo albums and even more after. John 5 Playing a bit from what i believe is Sugar Foot Rag. _______________ Bored of Psu Back to Gw I apologise in advance to all the people that will take offense to me saying my opinion. |
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Shar - Ex-Student 
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K so lets just do what hardwired suggests and drop this whole conversation since we don't seem to be able to come to terms on anything. I like this thread to much to have it closed or anything.
Found a cool lesson by john 5 check it out in the link below: Lesson Here's also him playing something a bit more mellow with a lesson on how its played. Behin The Nut Love - Lesson _______________ Bored of Psu Back to Gw I apologise in advance to all the people that will take offense to me saying my opinion. |
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Hardwired - Retired 
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This is getting really tiresome. And yes, I have read the entire thread. Word for word.
I'm seeing alot of things. People being too stuborn for their own good. Some that see arguments where there is none. Superiority complexes. And no, I am not going to be specific as to who is who. Here is the bottom line. "Who is your favorite guitar player?". Thats the topic. Every single post beyond this one better conform to that topic. Names and why you like them, nothing else. I am sick and tired of long disagreements over petty things. Most of the people know me well enought to take me seriosly. I will deal with each and every person person that does not follow the thread topic. Any questions or comments can be directed to me via profile, e-mail or instant messenger services. - HW _______________ ::Nothing wrong with a little shooting.....as long as the right people get shot:: |
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Virtue - Jedi Council 
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I never commented once on Guitar heroes or who I thoght sucked or whatever.
My comment was solely at the people posting in this thread about the way they were conducting themselves. I also have no interest in your theories on what can be interpreted as fact or opinion, or what we can never be sure of. You fancy yourself as somewhat of a Philosopher, good for you. Irrelevant in this conversation though. <-- NOT sarcasm. If you wanted people to be very specific, then again, you should have been more specific in your post, for example: "If you had to pick a guitarrist as your favourite, which one would it be?" As opposed to saying: "Who is your favourite?" Both say pretty much the same thing, but the former more effectively removes the chances of someone misunderstanding the question. Quote: If you where only interested in saying what you think why try to start up a arguemnt ?
This was stated by you after Kenyon merely posted his opinion on the subject matter. And yes, you are entitled to you opinion just as much as he is, but you accused him of trying to start an argument with you, and/or the people who posted before him. Which is what basically started snowballing with you and other people people getting defensive. - Virtue.  _______________ Academy Architect |
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Shar - Ex-Student 
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Then i will once again say you haven't read the thread since the intial post asks:
Who is your favourite guitar player. It says nothing on what do you think about John 5 or anything similar to it. That was my own answer to the inital question. If someone then says that the person i choose as my favourite is in anyway "bad" i will ofc respond to that. But i never suggested or invited anyone to start a discussion on who is the best guitarist or who is the better guitarist or who is a bad guitarist which falor also stated. So branding me as the instigator because i responded to someones comment on my choice is just wrong- That is once again proof of my assumption that you did not read the thread. Also about the whole system of "in my own opinion" defense. Who's to say that someone else's opinion is worth more than mine or yours ? Your opinion is that john 5 has no emotion in his music ? Fine then my opinion is that john 5 has emotion in his music. There is no difference between stating facts and stating your opinion. Nothing is ever certain nothing is ever fact. We can only say our opinions which makes this whole system of being able to say anything and not thinking people will challenge it useless. _______________ Bored of Psu Back to Gw I apologise in advance to all the people that will take offense to me saying my opinion. |
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Virtue - Jedi Council
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Quote: Also notice how that uses "Determined Singular" not sure of the accurate translation of that grammar word but that i hope is clear enough. This would imply that you are referring to one person in particular.
Quote: Who's Your favourite guitar player ?
I've been a fan of John 5 before he made his solo albums and even more after. Are you referring to one person in particular when you said "your" in your post there? It is assumed that when someone says "you" or "your", that they are generalising the question to anyone who may be reading your thread/comment. Also, I am an Agnostic - I even commented in the thread, expressing my appreciation for something that Sten Yusepf said, regarding why he doesn't believe in God. So as far as the Religion convo goes, I would generally be more inclined to agree with an Athiest, rather than a Christian or a Catholic (but that is not to say that I wouldn't show them every respect - if you are Religious and happen to read this comment). So no, I wasn't mocking you there. The sarcastic part of my first post was making fun of the fact that a couple of the threads recenly that have started out pretty simple, have turned into heated debates with people both getting offended and being offensive. - I even stated below my "sarcastic part": Quote: I can understand why the Religion thread got into a debate... but this?
What's going on, guys? Which should further fortify that it wasn't about you. Your "If you took the time to read, you would understand..." comment insulted my intelligence by way of suggesting that I don't take the time to read things before I post and am simply trying to verbally attack you without reason. I did, in fact read the entire thread before I posted, and the course of the thread changed when you made your reply which started with you saying: Quote: What are you talking about saying john 5, malmsteen and the rest have no melody or feeling in their music ?
So what I said was true, you posted the initial thread, asking a simple question, people answered you and you challenged them for stating their opinions, which was what I was referring to in my first reply, after I said "Yes, it's sarcasm". And also, I will mention this again, but this time I will quote it too - from my first post on this thread: Quote: Not trying to slate you or single you out here, Shar. In fact, this is more of a generalisation to everyone who wants to make a thread.
 My comments thereafter were in response to your reactions to my initial post. When providing a rebuttle to the posts that I was making here, you are in no position to be condescending, either justifiably or authoratively - either way, I didn't appreciate it and nor did many others. - Virtue. _______________ Academy Architect |
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Shar - Ex-Student
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If thats what you were trying to say why not just say so ?
And about me not going to last long here .... Quote: A thinker sees his own actions as experiments and questions--as attempts to find out something. Success and failure are for him answers above all. Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900), The Gay Science, section 41 Quote: The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche _______________ Bored of Psu Back to Gw I apologise in advance to all the people that will take offense to me saying my opinion. |
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planK - Jedi Council 
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What I was saying is that you haven't been here long enough to make a judgement on anyone. You don't know what you're talking about, and you probably won't last around here long enough to learn.
And by the way, I didn't jump on the bandwagon; I'm just responding to the way you reacted to my opinions. |
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Shar - Ex-Student
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The smiley thing was me trying to be witty.
How many here besides me have actually posted in the religion convo thread ? How many of thoose were on the "atheist" side ? Since thats what you are implying with Quote: WHAT IF JESUS PLAYED GUITAR?! WOULD YOU BELIEVE IN HIM THEN?? Also notice how that uses "Determined Singular" not sure of the accurate translation of that grammar word but that i hope is clear enough. This would imply that you are referring to one person in particular. In your next reply you say that i should have used a different wording or simply said that i was replying to somebody else. Which just shows that i was correct in my assumption that you hadn't read the thread since i answered that 2 times in the previous 3 posts. I also fail to see how saying you didn't read the post is a insult to your intellect ? I don't doubt you have the ability to read if thats what you were hinting at. You also imply i am not being diplomatic which i fail to see the context of. I respond by saying you are neither to which your response is. Quote: It was indeed. I never belittled you, called you any names, insulted your intelligence or generally took any shots of any kind at you or your opinions. I would appreciate the same in return. You then simply continue to say you have done no such thing as personal attacks or belittling over and over again which i feel i have already answered. To Mikeh: Since when does status, respect or mental capacity have anything to do with judging people ? I find it is far more often than not the people with status, respect and mental capacity who are the wrongdoers. Why would you call me the instigator did you actually read the thread or just jump on the "bash shar" bandwagon ? _______________ Bored of Psu Back to Gw I apologise in advance to all the people that will take offense to me saying my opinion. |
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Casual - Student 
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Returning to the original question,
at the moment, my favourite guitarist is Duane Allman. I've been playing nothing but slide for the past two years, and even if I try to listen to someone else, I always return to Duane. He had impeccable skill with the glass slide, and his sound was so unique (back then). Too bad he passed away far too young (died in 1971 or something). Another mind-blowing slide guitarist is Lowell George of the amazing Little Feat. He qualifies for the same reasons as Duane, and it's a shame they never played on the same recording. George died in 1979, I think. Also, you can't listen to slide guitar without listening to the OLD masters, like Robert Johnson, Son House, etc. I just love those tunes. If I had to pick some more guitarists, I'd definitely go with Eric Clapton from his John Mayall era (never really liked his solo stuff, and these days he's just too pop. The raw blues attitude he had going on in the 60s was amazing). Django Reinhardt, Eddie Lang and Carl Johnson are also incredible; I could listen to their jazz for days on end. I love talking about guitar music! And don't get me started on guitars themselves. At the moment, I've got 14, and more are on their way!  _______________ Thanks to the human heart by which we live, Thanks to its tenderness, its joys, and fears, To me the meanest flower that blows can give Thoughts that do often lie too deep for tears. |
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Virtue - Jedi Council 
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I don't, because they weren't and I fail to see how you think they were, you have yet to explain why without merely quoting me and stating that they were.
It's statements like "Please clean up your act" that prove what I have said in my previous posts here. You don't need to say stuff like that, you're just trying to be condescending and get a rise out of me. Fair enough if you truly believe I was being a hypocrite, but the least you could do is explain why you feel I have and what parts, instead of just quoting me and taking personal shots. As for the Empire smiley thing... I don't get it. Is that a referance to how I sign my name on the Forums? If so, then you should know that I've signed my name like that on almost every comment I've made since I joined the JA, and really don't see how something as trivial as me signing my name after a post with a Rebel insignia is a shot at you... My point in previous posts still stand. - Virtue. _______________ Academy Architect |
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planK - Jedi Council
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Quote: I still believe you are being a hypocrite if you see your posts as not being condescending or "cause of irritation" for lack of a better word.
Edit: Found better words: Vexing, Infuriationg and the like also added a empire smiley. Please clean up your act. - Shar  You haven't earned the respect, status, or even shown the mental capacity to be able to make a sound judgement on someone. Who are you to tell someone to clean up their act when YOU are the instigator? This is a person who has done more service here, for absolutely nothing in return, than you've likely ever done. Show some respect, or there's a very good chance you'll be out on your arse. And nobody wants that; I personally would much rather see another guitar enthusiast around here who can actually maintain a civil conversation. Passive-aggressive behaviour don't fly here, son! |
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Shar - Ex-Student
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I still believe you are being a hypocrite if you see your posts as not being condescending or "cause of irritation" for lack of a better word.
Edit: Found better words: Vexing, Infuriationg and the like also added a empire smiley. Please clean up your act. - Shar _______________ Bored of Psu Back to Gw I apologise in advance to all the people that will take offense to me saying my opinion. This comment was edited by Shar on May 18 2007 02:39pm. |
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Virtue - Jedi Council
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Again you insult my intelligence, called me a liar and a hypocrite? When I have actually done nothing offensive toward you.
I'm usually one to give people the benefit of the doubt and I think I've done that more than once with you here and I tire of it. Your personal attacks are unwarrented and your attitude is very poor. Mike is right when he says that if you keep it up, you won't last long here - and to be perfectly honest, I doubt very much that you'll be missed. Clean up the attitude, please. - Virtue. _______________ Academy Architect This comment was edited by Virtue on May 18 2007 02:19pm. |
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planK - Jedi Council 
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Quote: The only reason i argued was because someone said my choice of favourite guitarist lacked any emotion in his playing.
Did I say that? Because I think he does. I think *alot* of people think he does. Get over it.  |
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Shar - Ex-Student
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Not really.
The only reason i argued was because someone said my choice of favourite guitarist lacked any emotion in his playing. I doubt many wouldn't respond to such a comment. The religion convo was made to be a discussion so it doesn't count. _______________ Bored of Psu Back to Gw I apologise in advance to all the people that will take offense to me saying my opinion. |
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planK - Jedi Council
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Quote: I just have a thing against hypocrites.
You just seem to have a thing against anyone who would DARE disagree with your opinions in even the most trivial of issues! I get the feelin' you're not going to last very long here, pal. |
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Shar - Ex-Student
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I just have a thing against hypocrites. _______________ Bored of Psu Back to Gw I apologise in advance to all the people that will take offense to me saying my opinion. |
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Buzz - Student 
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The way you act proves that you more than anyone else needed to be told what Virtue said.
More drivel from you. That is being undiplomatic. But its still true. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. This comment was edited by Buzz on May 18 2007 01:15pm. |
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Shar - Ex-Student
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Your denial astounds me. _______________ Bored of Psu Back to Gw I apologise in advance to all the people that will take offense to me saying my opinion. |
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Virtue - Jedi Council
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That's why I included that part in the quote, yes.
- Virtue. _______________ Academy Architect |
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Shar - Ex-Student
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Quote: WHAT IF JESUS PLAYED GUITAR?! WOULD YOU BELIEVE IN HIM THEN??
Was directed at everyone ? _______________ Bored of Psu Back to Gw I apologise in advance to all the people that will take offense to me saying my opinion. |
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Virtue - Jedi Council
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MORE IN DEPTH DEBATE THREADS!! I GOT AN IDEA!! LETS COMBINE THEM LOLOLOMFGLOL!!!11!1! WHAT IF JESUS PLAYED GUITAR?! WOULD YOU BELIEVE IN HIM THEN?? Yes, it's sarcasm. That was directed at everyone, regarding how often threads tat ask simple questions turn into huge debates which often result in people getting offended/insulted recently. It was clearly not about you, I stated at the bottom of my initial comment that my reply was a generalisation for anyone who wanted to start a thread about something, and above that I told you personally that I wasn't trying to slate you or single you out, just in case you did think it was about you. Now, I'm going to ask this for the last time: Please be civil and diplomatic to one another, and eachother's opinions. No excuses. - Virtue. _______________ Academy Architect This comment was edited by Virtue on May 18 2007 02:19am. |
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Falor Windrider - Student 
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Plus, remember guys, musical taste is probably one of the most subjective things in human interaction. What one guy thinks of as emotionless, someone else may find awesome and supercharged. Unless its Britney Spears, then its just plain annoying to everybody except dogs. I know people who still love stuff like the Spice Girls, and Britney Spears. They're odd ones, I know. _______________ Jedi Knight of the Jedi Order [JO] www.thejedi-order.com |
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El Vee For - Student 
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Quote: Plus, remember guys, musical taste is probably one of the most subjective things in human interaction. What one guy thinks of as emotionless, someone else may find awesome and supercharged. Unless its Britney Spears, then its just plain annoying to everybody except dogs. _______________ “Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you’re still retarded.” |
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Falor Windrider - Student
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Plus, remember guys, musical taste is probably one of the most subjective things in human interaction. What one guy thinks of as emotionless, someone else may find awesome and supercharged. _______________ Jedi Knight of the Jedi Order [JO] www.thejedi-order.com |
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