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JP - Academy Pimp  |
Since we started to talk about the possible KOTOR MMO being to be developed by Bioware HERE. Based on that conversation, what would YOU like to experience in a KOTOR MMO, let your imagination run wild, no detail is to big or too small. (minus it being free *coughBUZZcough*).
While at C4 i got to talk to Jade bout what we wanted in a KOTOR MMO. My idea would be based around the jedi (as there were thousands back then) allowing every to have access to the same core abilites yet being able to specialize in what they wanted to do. For example, everyone starts off with a basic very very crappy heal, well if you wanted to be a healing jedi, you would spec into it and increase that ability 20x and be a healin beast, same goes with attacks, force, buffs, as well as things like agility, saber block/defect and the likes, you'd have the core MMO class all bundled into one char while having to unlock its potential in order to be a master of one. While i was rollin around in my head last nite how the "jedi talent" points would work. The talent trees would be based on a tier system, each tree havin 4 tiers with a number of abilities in each tier, the higher the teir the exponentially better the talents and abilities. IF you went into the 3rd tier in one tree you would be limited to the 1st tier of the rest of the tree's makin concintration a must and limitin "superbuilds". Like the "Master Lightsaber, Master Defenders" of SWG pre-NGE. Now with Jedi out of the way. Star Wars wouldnt be Star Wars without a good blaster at your side. The Jedi would have lost the Clone wars if it wasn't for the Clone troopers and with that so must the Republic/Sith Troopers fight right beside the Jedi. With a "Trooper", "Bounty Hunter", "Technicians" and maybe even "Droid" classes. Each having unique abilities which brings a needed DPS, support or speciality role. I'm still on the fence if Jedi should be the only healers/rezzers, or if a medic class with "Jedi healer" as an off healer. With the classes the way they are, the NPC's would share the same abilities as Players allowing the game to be balanced equally around PVP and PVE. Your choices of faction would be Republic and Sith with the ability to stay neutral and play the merc roll if you choose. Once you declare yourself Republic or Sith you will be in open combat with the opposite faction with certain places being safe havens for each respected faction. For example I wouldn't recommend the Sith go to Corescant, and the Republic go to Korriban. But you will have the ability to hide your identity (since your combat armor will carry the mark of your faction) by wearing plain clothes strips you of that mark and allows you to hide in the crowd. That is limited to within the major cities and not on the outskirts or main combat area's. Crafting would be a MAJOR part of the game with every jedi having to craft his own saber and armor also having to be crafted, with the high end stuff will be parts of the armor which will increase stats during the crafting process (All armor is 100% customizeable btw). Weapons cna also be crafted as well as looted, but each will specialize in something. Weapons will also be custimizeable with attachments, ammo types (blaster, slugs, flame, acid, etc). Buff's will be injections and handled by a "Stim" crafter. Droid parts for the droid class as well as ship parts will be crafted as well. Which reminds me... Space combat is something I LOVED in SWG and hope becomes a big part of KOTOR online. With ships being 100% unique possibly different ships for transport and short range fighters, with the ability to command mini Star destroyer type ships (as a base of operations for your short range fighters). So these are my ideas for now...ill update as i remember more.. /discuss!    _______________ Come on now, every Generation X boy wanted to be Luke Skywalker. Is it because he was a whiney farm boy from some backwater hack planet? No, it's because he was a FREAKING JEDI. He could block lasers with his lightsaber. He could levitate droids & rocks & crap with his mind. Come on, he choked two pig dudes with just a simple gesture. He cut off Darth Vader's hand and kicked him down a flight of stairs. He got his @$$ zapped by lightning from the geezer Emperor, stood up and said "s'at all you got b!tc#??" This post was edited by JP on Jun 14 2007 02:38pm. |
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lewis - Student 
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heh yeh i was being stupid wasnt thinking when i posted that make that the same principle but sith v jedi _______________ Bastila: "The fact that you are so strong in the Force and have had such relatively little training could have terrible consequences. For you, and for everyone around you." Revan: "You could warn me when I do something bad. Blink once for dark side, twice for light." — Bastila Shan attempting to lecture Revan on the dangers of the dark side |
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JP - Academy Pimp 
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Quote: i wanna see remanant v new republic in it to that whoud be awsome if when you start you choose your side and one side can only visit certian planets and the other is restricted to on top of this you can add a nuteral planet where both sides come to trade
Knights of the OLD Republic.../facepalm _______________ Come on now, every Generation X boy wanted to be Luke Skywalker. Is it because he was a whiney farm boy from some backwater hack planet? No, it's because he was a FREAKING JEDI. He could block lasers with his lightsaber. He could levitate droids & rocks & crap with his mind. Come on, he choked two pig dudes with just a simple gesture. He cut off Darth Vader's hand and kicked him down a flight of stairs. He got his @$$ zapped by lightning from the geezer Emperor, stood up and said "s'at all you got b!tc#??" |
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lewis - Student
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i wanna see remanant v new republic in it to that whoud be awsome if when you start you choose your side and one side can only visit certian planets and the other is restricted to on top of this you can add a nuteral planet where both sides come to trade _______________ Bastila: "The fact that you are so strong in the Force and have had such relatively little training could have terrible consequences. For you, and for everyone around you." Revan: "You could warn me when I do something bad. Blink once for dark side, twice for light." — Bastila Shan attempting to lecture Revan on the dangers of the dark side This comment was edited by lewis on Jul 11 2007 03:42pm. |
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JP - Academy Pimp
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still your talking bout everyone experience the game in the EXACT same way...not what a MMO should be about, should have the freedom to do as you please, while be separate from the main characters. But you could have an HK droid as a pet i guess...but wouldnt be HK-47, but a variation of the same model..but the whole part about bastilla in your party i fully oppose. Just my opinion tho.
I just hope they do some the MMO world has never seen before, like adaptive AI, a elaborate and worthwild crafting system and items, an amazing array of ships, blasters, clothes, gear... AND Dane as a sexy sexy Twi'lek, red preferably /flirt  _______________ Come on now, every Generation X boy wanted to be Luke Skywalker. Is it because he was a whiney farm boy from some backwater hack planet? No, it's because he was a FREAKING JEDI. He could block lasers with his lightsaber. He could levitate droids & rocks & crap with his mind. Come on, he choked two pig dudes with just a simple gesture. He cut off Darth Vader's hand and kicked him down a flight of stairs. He got his @$$ zapped by lightning from the geezer Emperor, stood up and said "s'at all you got b!tc#??" This comment was edited by JP on Jul 11 2007 03:27pm. |
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lewis - Student
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in guild wars you only see them when in a party and if there is more than one it whoud change the name of the seconds to something else (e.g hk47-assassin droid) _______________ Bastila: "The fact that you are so strong in the Force and have had such relatively little training could have terrible consequences. For you, and for everyone around you." Revan: "You could warn me when I do something bad. Blink once for dark side, twice for light." — Bastila Shan attempting to lecture Revan on the dangers of the dark side |
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JP - Academy Pimp
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/me offers golds for sexual favors  _______________ Come on now, every Generation X boy wanted to be Luke Skywalker. Is it because he was a whiney farm boy from some backwater hack planet? No, it's because he was a FREAKING JEDI. He could block lasers with his lightsaber. He could levitate droids & rocks & crap with his mind. Come on, he choked two pig dudes with just a simple gesture. He cut off Darth Vader's hand and kicked him down a flight of stairs. He got his @$$ zapped by lightning from the geezer Emperor, stood up and said "s'at all you got b!tc#??" |
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planK - Jedi Council 
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Quote: looool
EDIT: Dane has a policy of no female ingame characters after a very confused person made some very strange propositions in World of Warcraft. NEVER AGAIN SAYS I!!@ You as well huh?  |
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Rinzler - Student 
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looool
EDIT: Dane has a policy of no female ingame characters after a very confused person made some very strange propositions in World of Warcraft. NEVER AGAIN SAYS I!!@ _______________ I fite for teh usars!1 This comment was edited by Rinzler on Jul 11 2007 02:38am. |
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Jade Jedi - Retired 
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What would I like to see in a kotor mmo?
Dane as a twileks, a sexy sexy twilek, a female one.  _______________ *CLICKEH->Never risk the Fett Man|*Download my Saber here. Made by master craftsman Pink Floyd_Mintaka + his 2002 & 4000 comment's [Laz's 700th comment][BDKawika's 600th comment] & Owner of a TOWEL award!!|Master: Sared Padawans: Rage-Ball and Dante Eagle.|*Jade Jedi at The Jedi Academy Archives "There's only one Return and it's not of the King it's of the Jedi" Randal Clerks 2 The top 10 reasons why I procrastinate: 1. |
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Rinzler - Student
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what would I like to see in a kotor mmo?
twileks. sexy sexy twileks. female ones. _______________ I fite for teh usars!1 |
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JP - Academy Pimp 
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Quote: id like it to be like gw you get the basic allies still like bastilla and hk47 but they are simmillar to the hero system in gw plus it shoud be free like gw where its a 1 time payment.
so every1 get HK-47 and Bastilla...lotta clones roming round...Oh and GL with a one time payment, theres no money to be made that way. If the game is well made and supported it will be well worth the $15 a month _______________ Come on now, every Generation X boy wanted to be Luke Skywalker. Is it because he was a whiney farm boy from some backwater hack planet? No, it's because he was a FREAKING JEDI. He could block lasers with his lightsaber. He could levitate droids & rocks & crap with his mind. Come on, he choked two pig dudes with just a simple gesture. He cut off Darth Vader's hand and kicked him down a flight of stairs. He got his @$$ zapped by lightning from the geezer Emperor, stood up and said "s'at all you got b!tc#??" |
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lewis - Student 
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id like it to be like gw you get the basic allies still like bastilla and hk47 but they are simmillar to the hero system in gw plus it shoud be free like gw where its a 1 time payment. _______________ Bastila: "The fact that you are so strong in the Force and have had such relatively little training could have terrible consequences. For you, and for everyone around you." Revan: "You could warn me when I do something bad. Blink once for dark side, twice for light." — Bastila Shan attempting to lecture Revan on the dangers of the dark side |
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SaZ - Student 
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i agree with you shokoon.
i think galaxies had some sort of quests for bountyhunters which involved the real jedi players. stuff like that would make whole game world much more entertaining and involving. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Sho Koon - Student 
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Indeed I would like to see a lot of costumisation. Both on character and items (a lot of races and things).
I would like to see an MMO that really is built around the players and not NPCs. As with a good SW MMO I think you would not have a problem with population. So it would be nice to have quests that involve others. Like when you need to carry that X item to Y people, you could actually carry packages that others bought from somewhere. Or when you need an armor, you should buy it from a crafter, etc. I'd like to see less NPCs and a lot more interaction with players (For a few more examples: Bounty hunters, smuglers, assassins, slavery, arenas, some sort of siege system where you could take over a city or even build new ones and rule them like a Hut crime lord, ...). And one more very important part: Costumisation on the client part so that players with worse computers could set it up to look worse but still be able to play, while players with a better computer could turn on all the shiny effects. _______________ Proud owner of Malak's 50th and special 300th, Alex D'Kana's 3600th and 4000th, Laziana's 200th and [Jawa][Obi-Wan][SW]'s 1300th comment. This comment was edited by Sho Koon on Jun 29 2007 09:50am. |
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JP - Academy Pimp
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yes..yes we did  CIV ftw.. _______________ Come on now, every Generation X boy wanted to be Luke Skywalker. Is it because he was a whiney farm boy from some backwater hack planet? No, it's because he was a FREAKING JEDI. He could block lasers with his lightsaber. He could levitate droids & rocks & crap with his mind. Come on, he choked two pig dudes with just a simple gesture. He cut off Darth Vader's hand and kicked him down a flight of stairs. He got his @$$ zapped by lightning from the geezer Emperor, stood up and said "s'at all you got b!tc#??" |
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Jade Jedi - Retired 
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JP and I had a pretty good discussion about this at CIV, there are some good ideas kicking around here. I hope we can see KOTOR mmo someday, I think it could be everything we ever wanted from Galaxies.  _______________ *CLICKEH->Never risk the Fett Man|*Download my Saber here. Made by master craftsman Pink Floyd_Mintaka + his 2002 & 4000 comment's [Laz's 700th comment][BDKawika's 600th comment] & Owner of a TOWEL award!!|Master: Sared Padawans: Rage-Ball and Dante Eagle.|*Jade Jedi at The Jedi Academy Archives "There's only one Return and it's not of the King it's of the Jedi" Randal Clerks 2 The top 10 reasons why I procrastinate: 1. |
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JP - Academy Pimp
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Another thing i thought bout was Neutral factions like Mandolorian and The Exchange, hit me when i picked up KOTOR again. _______________ Come on now, every Generation X boy wanted to be Luke Skywalker. Is it because he was a whiney farm boy from some backwater hack planet? No, it's because he was a FREAKING JEDI. He could block lasers with his lightsaber. He could levitate droids & rocks & crap with his mind. Come on, he choked two pig dudes with just a simple gesture. He cut off Darth Vader's hand and kicked him down a flight of stairs. He got his @$$ zapped by lightning from the geezer Emperor, stood up and said "s'at all you got b!tc#??" |
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Aiden - Student 
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A dynamic, hands-on combat system. Something like Funcom is working on for Age of Conan.
Fuggedaboutid, don't listen to me. This comment was edited by Aiden on Jun 23 2007 07:45pm. |
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SaZ - Student
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the things that are very important:
1.a way to gain experience not only through killing mobs but in other ways too. 2. rodians. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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JP - Academy Pimp
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Quote: I would enjoy seeing card games like Sabaac, where you can bet with other players and be able to see how your total winnings rank among the galaxy's players. Pazaak was an interesting form of Blackjack, but I guess including it wouldn't hurt too. From time to time, have huge tournaments with a grand prize etc. Some other possibilities would be holographic chess, racing (pod racing, swoop racing, etc)
that would be cool, I played Sabaac at CIV, interesting game. The Racing would ROCK, either side by side racing or time trails either would be fun. Quote: Considering that Star Wars is generally faction-based, with a good and evil side (with our neutral groups as well too), it would be quite important to have "instances" where the factions fight on ground or space to claim planet outposts/stations. By controlling these outposts, factions will gain some benefits which will go along with the respective planet. If the Rebels gained control of Thyferra, they'll get a discount on bacta (example may not be relevant to the timeline of course heh). For the neutral groups out there, crime organizations will have the ability to participate in these instances as well.
I'd be Sith and Republic. Kolto instead of Bacta . Def cool ideas,
Quote: In these instances, military officers will have tactical meetings to discuss a strategy for the upcoming battle. Then, the officers will relate their orders to their fighters/troops, making these instances more team-based.
sort of like a Battleground? similar to that of it WoW. -JP _______________ Come on now, every Generation X boy wanted to be Luke Skywalker. Is it because he was a whiney farm boy from some backwater hack planet? No, it's because he was a FREAKING JEDI. He could block lasers with his lightsaber. He could levitate droids & rocks & crap with his mind. Come on, he choked two pig dudes with just a simple gesture. He cut off Darth Vader's hand and kicked him down a flight of stairs. He got his @$$ zapped by lightning from the geezer Emperor, stood up and said "s'at all you got b!tc#??" |
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R2D2 - Staff 
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One thing about MMO's that I've played (they were the free ones, but I notice it about some of the more better MMORPGs) is that the quests usually just involve bringing x amount of y items to z location. I would like to see some more challenging and captivating quests that require you to cover different locations/worlds, explore areas (not just kill everything in sight and loot it), and perhaps even solve puzzles. The sidequests in KOTOR would be very nice to have, except with an adder degree of difficulty so not just anyone can solve them.
Along with quests, I'd like to see tons of mini-games. For example, I would enjoy seeing card games like Sabaac, where you can bet with other players and be able to see how your total winnings rank among the galaxy's players. Pazaak was an interesting form of Blackjack, but I guess including it wouldn't hurt too. From time to time, have huge tournaments with a grand prize etc. Some other possibilities would be holographic chess, racing (pod racing, swoop racing, etc), and many others... Some of the ideas mentioned about spaceships etc are quite nice. To add to that, I believe there should be different types of space classes. For example, fighter pilots will specialize in combat and generally fly smaller ships. Smugglers, fly medium sized freighters, generally customized for their needs to carry illegal cargo. Naval officers server on larger faction-based ships and have the ability to command over fighter units in faction battles. Higher ranking fleet commanders will have the ability to pilot corvettes, cruisers, etc. Space technicians/mechanics will be able to repair ships and install systems to ships, perhaps even the ability to make their own ship. Not sure I'd want a player in command of a capital ship, but these ships could be fleet focal points for factions. Considering that Star Wars is generally faction-based, with a good and evil side (with our neutral groups as well too), it would be quite important to have "instances" where the factions fight on ground or space to claim planet outposts/stations. By controlling these outposts, factions will gain some benefits which will go along with the respective planet. If the Rebels gained control of Thyferra, they'll get a discount on bacta (example may not be relevant to the timeline of course heh). For the neutral groups out there, crime organizations will have the ability to participate in these instances as well. In these instances, military officers will have tactical meetings to discuss a strategy for the upcoming battle. Then, the officers will relate their orders to their fighters/troops, making these instances more team-based. Think I have a few more ideas... but if there ever was a KOTOR based mmorpg, I hope they'll make it quite immersive. Not a lot is written about that era, so the players will be able to write/re-write Star Wars history _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try" Jedi Master Yoda Dual Saberist |
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JP - Academy Pimp
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*Updated* _______________ Come on now, every Generation X boy wanted to be Luke Skywalker. Is it because he was a whiney farm boy from some backwater hack planet? No, it's because he was a FREAKING JEDI. He could block lasers with his lightsaber. He could levitate droids & rocks & crap with his mind. Come on, he choked two pig dudes with just a simple gesture. He cut off Darth Vader's hand and kicked him down a flight of stairs. He got his @$$ zapped by lightning from the geezer Emperor, stood up and said "s'at all you got b!tc#??" |
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Augusta_Mintaka - Student 
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It's Bioware, so I'm sure they and their tradition of creativity would make something thats not quite like anything else in the mmo world.
If by odd chance it happened, I would really like to see free combat (control where your blaster shoots, where your saber swings) and even have full control of your ship and also walk around in it while you travel (like kotor when you're docked). Ships could even serve as guild halls in a sort, like a guild would have a flagship where they meet and whatnot. Massive guild battles in space and the works. One thing that always bothered me was that you always were either good or bad to get a good story. I'd like to see some opportunity to be neutral and benefits for it. Prestige classes would follow base classes (warrior, scout, tech). Some of them could be the prestige classes in kotor 2 and some more dealing with classes like bounty hunters or high rank soldiers. PvP would be completely balanced and everything had a fair counter. PvE would have little impact on experience and just serve as obstacles for quests, loot hordes and other tempting locations. So instead of dedicating 15 hours a day, you could put in 1-2 hours and progress quite a lot without the need of repetitive fighting. Stats would be customizable, appearance would be as customizable as the sims and you could like tailor armor and weapons to look different. There would be a lot of activity in cities like cantinas, pod racing and maybe training areas. Anyways, thats enough of wishful thinking. If Kotor turned into an mmo, then I would love to see it with the depth of kotor and the flexible game play of the jk series (minus annoying bugs, etc). Even though it's not probable that Bioware's MMO is going to be based on KoTOR, I trust that Bioware will at least try to break the mold in our mmo world and not go by traditional mmo standards. _______________ "Deos fortioribus adesse." |
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