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SaZ - Student  |
more and more often i realise that i meet people that do not want to listen to any clever words i might think of. non-direct mocking stuff just makes them angrier also.
what kind of self defence martial arts would you recommend? im thinking about goin to some, because its just becoming too annoying and makes me feel nervous all the time. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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solitude - Jedi Council 
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Quote: I've never lost a fight in my life, because I was shown at a young age by a 20 year Army veteran how to successfully stop someone from kicking ten bells out of you.
Strike, or throw something in their face. Then, you take them on the ground, and bounce their head off it. The ground is your friend. Walls work too. I swear to god, it sounds so simple, but if you stun someone, you could shag them and they wouldn't know what was happening. Seconded, there is no "honour" or "fairness" in a street fight. You need to incapacitate them as fast as possible, then get the hell out of there. Hit hard, hit first, run. Also, I advise avoiding fights when you can. [Edit: typos ... grrr] _______________ Joined 16 October 2004 | Retired 10 April 2005 | Returned 05 June 2008 | Made Staff 27 June 2008 | Made Council 18 January 2009 Padawan To Odan-Wei Belouve | Adopted into the Belouve family | Twin to xAnAtOs | Owner of the 4th Quesi sexy badge  Brother To Roan Belouve, Nomad, Majno, Silkmonkey, Kensei and Jarhok Belouve
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Augusta_Mintaka - Student 
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Might want to look into Krav Maga. It's brutal and straight to the point, but that's usually your best bet to end an uncontrolled fight. Focuses on situational self defense rather than technique like karate or boxing. _______________ "Deos fortioribus adesse." |
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planK - Jedi Council 
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I've never lost a fight in my life, because I was shown at a young age by a 20 year Army veteran how to successfully stop someone from kicking ten bells out of you.
Strike, or throw something in their face. Then, you take them on the ground, and bounce their head off it. The ground is your friend. Walls work too. I swear to god, it sounds so simple, but if you stun someone, you could shag them and they wouldn't know what was happening. |
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Maher - Jedi Knight 
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solitude - Jedi Council
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Buy a gun lol
 so uncivilized.. lol Buy a lightsaber then. :p _______________ Joined 16 October 2004 | Retired 10 April 2005 | Returned 05 June 2008 | Made Staff 27 June 2008 | Made Council 18 January 2009 Padawan To Odan-Wei Belouve | Adopted into the Belouve family | Twin to xAnAtOs | Owner of the 4th Quesi sexy badge Brother To Roan Belouve, Nomad, Majno, Silkmonkey, Kensei and Jarhok Belouve
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SaZ - Student 
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Quote: Buy a gun lol
so uncivilized.. lol _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Tallepyon - Student 
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Buy a gun lol |
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Z�diac Grimclaw - Ex-Student 
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personal note: stop avoiding me -.-
situation note: first of all, Quote: enraged <50 IQ people with psychical disorders control everything it seems.
well, my IQ is 51 but Im kinda doing very well in school which is at the top 5 five in my country or my city atleast. i have alot of friends which are very quite normal (not agressive at all). im am too a very calm and peasful guy. so my point is, i dont think that any number or digit should measure one's brain cappacity and charasteristics 
back to the point: hmm.. self defence. well, as I understand from the situation, that must have sucked and u were quite lucky it didint turn out worse. Anyways, i think ur kinda too old for self-defence lessons and stuff. i mean, it takes a lot of determenation and patience to acomplish anything. self-defence programs like mhui thai, thaikwando or something like that are basicly tought using technuekes which will only wirk in a year if u practice them alot. what im saying, u wont get ur results right now, they are gonna show up slowly so ur just gonna have to ask urself: are u gonna wait for it ? is there something u can do now ? the best advice i can give u is try to talk to some of ur friends, save up money for some boxing gloves and start boxing. this might sound stupid but it helps you get more confidence in urself and loose the fear of getting hurt. especialy when u are boxing with ur friends, wihtout any teachers to supervise, u will get used to the "no rules" thing and pretty much start to develop and improove ur reaction. by loosing fear, i mean, from personal experience, i think u would start figuring that only the only thing you would want to save is ur eyes and teeth. other than that, nothing else matters, because all the other wounds can heal up. sooo, concluding the boxing part: this way u can have fun with your friends, improove ur reaction. and maybe realise that ur not made of glass the point in fighting isint win or loose or getting hurt. its standing for what u believe is right when NECESSARY. there will always be jerks and idiots that are just looking for fights, and its always best to ignore these asses, but have no other choice, dont be afraid to get hurt. i mean, usualy fights last till the first blood so dont expect to go into a koma i mean, its better to fight and loose and prove that ur not afraid to stand up for urself than saying ur sorry.
sry if i sounded like and idiot or said some stupid stuff. its just my opinion, and i think its better to have one rather than not to. PS: sry for my crap-like english ;P _______________ Facta non verba. Omnia mutantur nos et mutamur in illis. Timendi causa est nescire... |
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Cuthalion - Padawan 
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Ju-Jitsu. It's useful because you dont have to focus on striking necessarily, it involves slight grabs, twists and pulls. I found it very useful anyway. _______________ <MaherSenatu> guh... you are just... I'll keep sure that your kind of people will never be knights... <MaherSenatu> That's my mission... Master to Kain Sol |
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SaZ - Student
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i wish it taught you the ways of the lightsaber lol _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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ShadowJedi - Student 
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Well , Martial Arts are good , Especially for self defense .
I could recommend you -Karate-do Style Shotokan- Its more based on Self defense and trains you in : Knife;Sword;Stick;Gun(pistol , shotgun)Kicks;Punches ... Defense . So if a guy comes with a knife (more often this case) You can Defense yourself with bare hands . I practice this style and its very good . If you can find someone around you that can teach you this style its very good .
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Augusta_Mintaka - Student
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Got a list of what martial art classes are near you?
I don't view martial arts as a solution for your average bullies, but sometimes your wits and a can of pepper spray won't help you. A peaceful person won't abuse the practice and only put it to good use. _______________ "Deos fortioribus adesse." |
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SaZ - Student 
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well, he knocked my glasses off and right at that moment my friends came. well i got my glasses and while they were talking with him i went out.
well ofcourse my friends and that idiot followed me. one of my friends told me to apologise. so yeah i said 'sorry i didnt know you are nazi, next time make sure that swastika is clearly visible.' that surely hurt my ego tho... why should i apologise when i didnt do anything wrong. i kinda even doubt my friends understood that i wasnt the aggressor. enraged <50 IQ people with psychical disorders control everything it seems. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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Uhm Saucer, Pepper Spray -is- a weapon, and a damn hurtful one as well :p
I was thinking about something along the lines of a baton too, though. And Saz - i believe avoiding the guy or leaving the place if necessary is definitely preferable to knocking him out or putting him into a world of pain. How did you resolve the situation? _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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Sauce - =^.^= 
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self-defense fighting and martial arts fighting are vastly different. the way traditional martial arts lessons are structured, making it sometimes impractical for common self-defense situations (for ex, fighting in a enclosed area with a slippery floor with obstructions like tables and chairs everywhere). for that reason i would not recommend you learn martial arts for the sole purpose of self-defense. that'll be like learning to run the 1600 meters race on an indoor track as training for running a 20 meter sprint in the snow. sure some of the training would translate over, but it's not very efficient.
with that said alot of self-defense courses are a bunch of crap and you will need to be discern the good ones from the bad. in my opinion, the courses that focus on situational awareness, clever thinking, and vital point striking are much more preferable than those courses that focus on techniques (watered down martial arts). don't get me wrong. techniques are important but what often is the product of technique training people would not think before they use a move (for example, trying high kicks or spin kicks on a wet floor, when they suck at kicks, when they're wearing tight jeans, when they're drunk, or getting into punching range vs someone with a knife or punching the guy first right in front of the policeman). yeah, make sure you actually need to fight and are certain that the techniques would work. be able to honestly assess the effectiveness of your skills. if your punches are ineffective (it's weak as hell, the guy outweighs you by 100lbs, or you have carpel tunnel from spending too much time typing) don't use it... buy a pepper spray. you don't need a weapon unless you wanna get arrested or are prepared to really hurt someone. fighting does not solve anything really. people mostly fight because of their own fears and insecurities. but if you must fight, end it quick and leave immediately. like literally run away. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQVaTEPOsTA if it helps. This comment was edited by Sauce on Nov 29 2008 04:35pm. |
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget 
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just take a asskicking everynow and then, i've still to get one i whoop ass when i fight but still what goes around comes around _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are 
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SaZ - Student
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Quote: Good! So why deal with them at all?
ummm situation: i was in the pub talking with one friend at one part of the bar and then coming back to some other table where other friend is. back and forth. then i come to my friend and there is this guy sitting near her in the place i was sitting the whole time there. so i ask my friend if i can talk to her a little. and that guy goes into rage. im like 'jesus christ i just want to talk with my friend i didnt see her for a long time' and he is like 'you calling me a jew?!'. as you can see - his logic is just brilliant. pure genius. later on that night he pulled his shirt up so i can see another shirt under. there was this huge Swastika drawn there. clearly a guy with damaged mind. anyway i tried everything: peaceful explanation, asking whats wrong with him, told him to relax and ofcourse being silent and trying to ignore him. the last thing didnt work at all coz he started to touch my glasses repeatedly then i couldnt keep my cool and told him to fuck off. well as you can probably imagine that didnt work either. what does one do in such situations when it involves speaking with a psychopath? Quote: What prevents you from carrying a weapon then?
what weapon? _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana This comment was edited by SaZ on Nov 29 2008 03:25pm. |
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Masta - Jedi Council
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Quote: im peacefull guy so i manage to get out of trouble quite well.
however that means that most of times when such shit happens - the opposing person has atleast 50 IQ. thats why i created this thread - nothing works against those who have no brain at all. Good! So why deal with them at all? Quote: Quote: wait outside of your school someday
im afraid that wont happen since i finished school two years ago lol Quote: is he going to gather his friends
im pretty much sure id see him again in the same places. if he is going to gather his friends - my friends will help me. however my friends cant save me from 1on1 situations. What prevents you from carrying a weapon then? Sure, martial arts is a way more refined way of dealing with those kinds of situations, especially since you get way more out of it than just an effective technique for incapacitating your opponent, but if it comes down to a fight, turning to a weapon works (mostly) just as well. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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SaZ - Student
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im peacefull guy so i manage to get out of trouble quite well.
however that means that most of times when such shit happens - the opposing person has atleast 50 IQ. thats why i created this thread - nothing works against those who have no brain at all. Quote: wait outside of your school someday
im afraid that wont happen since i finished school two years ago lol Quote: is he going to gather his friends
im pretty much sure id see him again in the same places. if he is going to gather his friends - my friends will help me. however my friends cant save me from 1on1 situations. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Masta - Jedi Council
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Yeah, the thing is, peace of mind is a function of character rather than ability; if ability helps you cultivate character, then that's a good way to go. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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Augusta_Mintaka - Student 
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The same guy could also corner you one day with a knife because he just doesn't like you. In a proper martial arts class people typically learn when and when not to use their physical skill rather than their mental skill.
Learning a fighting discipline isn't about bloodying somebodies nose and most people figure this out after a few weeks into a class. (with exceptions going to those no quarter martial arts) Just knowing that you can defend yourself will give you a clear head in hostile situations and you will more readily seek a non-violent solution. That is unless you actually want to go and seek out trouble, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. _______________ "Deos fortioribus adesse." |
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Masta - Jedi Council
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Fighting fire with fire usually doesn't help. Ask yourself this: if you do manage to beat one of those guys up, is he going to gather his friends and wait outside of your school someday, trying to beat you up even worse, maybe breaking your arm in the process? If so, what good did it do to fight him in the first place? If not, hell, do feel free to go ahead, but you don't need to study martial arts for that. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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Augusta_Mintaka - Student
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What do you have available near you? I'm not sure what is out there in eastern Europe, but there are a number of extremely effective martial arts. If you can pull up a list of what you have around your area I could help.
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget
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u dont need self defense, just headbutt them or take same lessons in the english way
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