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To buy or to build?
Aug 04 2011 06:19am

Xorb
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Xorb
Well, I mean, my good old pentium 4 is coming to its end......I'm thinking about getting a new PC. It's been a while...lol! So, is building a PC, ie, buying components and putting it together, more economical than buying a Dell, HP, Gateway, or whatever else these days?

I want something with a decent CPU and gaming graphics card.

I bet some of you guys have had recent experience with PC shopping..........
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Aug 10 2011 11:08pm

Augusta_Mintaka
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nVidia and ATI should work together!
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Aug 10 2011 12:49pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

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driver support for new games is horrible for ATI

that might be true, but if we talked about high end gaming (mainly SLI and crossfire systems) they both fail at producing drivers for those on time. atleast lookin at recent months.
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but they just switch their superiority with each generation.

switched cards from nvidia to ati every couple of years for 10 or so years now. i can only agree to that statement.
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I guess its personal opinion but from my experience nvidia is winning hands down

i agree on current situation, but as i said before... everything changes rapidly in video card world lol
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This comment was edited by SaZ on Aug 10 2011 01:47pm.

Aug 08 2011 08:46am

Masta
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 Masta

I never had an ATI card :(

But then again, I only owned 3 cards throughout my life, so...

EDIT: I can even list them!
GeForce2MX 400
GeForceFX 5800
GeForce 9600GT

Go me!

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Aug 08 2011 08:07am

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

I never had a problem with ATI drivers, except trying to play JKA. Although, I did have problems with nVidia drivers and Prototype. I suppose experiences will vary.

I miss Voodoo :(
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Aug 08 2011 03:41am

R2D2
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 R2D2

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but my ati card at work is always pissing me about.

What are you doing at work that requires a graphics card? :eek:
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Aug 07 2011 09:02pm

Monteeeeeee
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 Monteeeeeee

personally i disagree, i've always had ATI driver issues with new games, so since the 9800GT nvidia i mark them as the clear winner since that mark until now i never have any issues with my 460 but my ati card at work is always pissing me about.

But i guess its all subjective to personal experiences
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Aug 07 2011 09:01pm

Augusta_Mintaka
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Neither company is better overall, but they just switch their superiority with each generation. The 5870 was the choice card for mid-level gamers and the 5970 was the best card on the market. At the same time, nVidia cards suffered from temperature and noise issues.

Now the generation is run by nVidia, but they aren't clearly better like ATI was last generation. The cycle has been consistent for quite some time!
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Aug 07 2011 08:42am

Monteeeeeee
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 Monteeeeeee

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i find ATI cards to be terrible lately, Nvidia are really kicking ass lately on price and performance


i find that to be untrue.
for every 'OMFG ATI SUCKS' thread on ATI related forums there are just as many 'OMFG NVIDIA! ILL GO BACK TO ATI' threads.
that pretty much sums up the situation.


i dont base that on just reading forums i base it on the fact i've used both types of cards for several years, i used ati in my work machine which i game on from time to time and the driver support for new games is horrible for ATI, good when they get them out but nothing like nvidia, which update their drivers constantly.

I guess its personal opinion but from my experience nvidia is winning hands down
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Aug 07 2011 02:29am

R2D2
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 R2D2

Using an ATI Radeon (Sapphire) 5770. Runs most games fine, although my variety of new games is limited to MMOs and SC2 :P

One thing about buying the cheaper computer bundles... almost always the power supply will be inferior. A respectable graphics card should have a power supply around 500 Watts or more. I bought a cheap HP with decent RAM, processor, and DVD-ROM during Black Friday last year for about 500 bucks (preloaded with Windows 7, came with nice widescreen LCD monitor, free wireless printer, etc.). In order to upgrade it to a decent gaming machine for future games, I bought a 550 Watt Corsair power supply for around 50 bucks and the previously mentioned graphics card for 100 bucks. Bought both at newegg and both were on sale. Saved about 50-60 dollars from those sales/rebates. Anyways, it took about 150 dollars to upgrade my machine to something that could handle future games well.
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Aug 07 2011 01:48am

SaZ
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 SaZ

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i find ATI cards to be terrible lately, Nvidia are really kicking ass lately on price and performance


i find that to be untrue.
for every 'OMFG ATI SUCKS' thread on ATI related forums there are just as many 'OMFG NVIDIA! ILL GO BACK TO ATI' threads.
that pretty much sums up the situation.
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Aug 06 2011 10:10pm

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

The 590 is a very impressive card, but it also costs more than an average computer :(
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Aug 06 2011 08:51pm

Monteeeeeee
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 Monteeeeeee

i find ATI cards to be terrible lately, Nvidia are really kicking ass lately on price and performance
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Aug 06 2011 07:04pm

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

Building it is always the best way to get a new system in my eyes. Boutique companies don't always tell you the brand of the part they put in, and if they do then there is usually a better choice for the same or less money.

If you're confident in putting together the pieces, you really can't go wrong with making it yourself. Although there are boutique places that offer good prices and warranty the entire system. If you do it yourself, you get a collection of individual warranties. Hardware, especially graphics cards, are running into issues more frequently today.

If you research every part you pick, read the customer reviews, you should be fine building it yourself.
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Aug 06 2011 03:32pm

Monteeeeeee
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 Monteeeeeee

I recently built a new gaming rig for battlefield 3,

Currently running a I7 2600K with 16gb ddr3 ram 750w psu, 460gfx card ( its my old card ) might get another 460 and sli it we'll see. Twin screen at the moment tho i've ran 4 screens before lol when i sli'd my old pc with geforce 250gtx cards.

All in all my baseunit stands me at around £600
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Aug 04 2011 08:12am

Masta
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 Masta

From my experience, unless you can get a complete PC for a huge discount somewhere, buying the individual components and setting it up yourself is not only cheaper but also way more satisfying.

Now, I'm not ontop of the most recent trends in the industry, so I don't know if what I wrote above is still valid, but I know that it certainly was a few years ago. You might want to just compare prices in the end.
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