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Avean - Student  |
The JK2 Community is very good i think overall, but there are still couple of things that annoys me ALOT, and every person i have played with does it except very few persons. 1. The Binds What on earth has happened ? Why oh why do everyone use these funky colors , GREAT FIGHT, GOOD LUCK NEXT TIME lines ? And some actually just have a GOOD FIGHT! after each damn battle..the same line over and over again. I mean players are showing respect by bowing, so why not show respect by actually talking how the fight went instead of using premade sentences ? 2. The Greeting Ok ok, it is a known fact that in duels we all greet each other...but what i encountered yesterday made me wanna hit somebody ! I always bow with just me head, slowly tilting it down, instead of going on my knees and bowing. What the admin of the server said yesterday when he saw me, he sent a global message to the server " YOU HAVE TO KNEEL AND BOW BEFORE A DUEL, NOT JUST NODDING " I mean WHAAAT ?? I nod when i greet, i do not kneel... it is the same thing...they are both greetings, but my nod was actually not accepted. Is it just me or something wrong with this picture ... it looks to me as alot of the JK2 Community consist of 14 year old players or something. I see ALOT of binds on the Academy servers as well, i usually don`t reply to those people using it, just VERY annoying . How does the rest of you feel on these matters ? And if you disagree please state your age hehe  _______________ Do you believe I need eyes to see or ears to hear? |
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DrummerBoy [JAS] - Ex-Student ![DrummerBoy [JAS]](/image_thumbnail.php?f_type=users&f_width=51&f_height=70&f_image=2825.jpg)
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I bow, yeah, i mean, it is polite, and that way, you both know when you're ready. it's more than just a sign of repsect, it lets you have a fair fight too. and, im annoyed by some people whojust are like "gf" after every fight, even if they just pop a dfa right off the bat and kill me cuz im retarded and often run right into them somehow... ...how did i do that?!?! anyways...theyre all like "gf" and ill say something along the lines of..."dude, what the hell are you talking about? i didnt even touch you. that was the worst fight ive ever fought!" and theyre usuallt just sitting there, in a stunned silence. and whenever i make a comment about the fight, ppl just sit there and dont say anything, even on the JA server sometimes. so i dont just say gf, i dont even have it bound, although i do say it after most fights. _______________ --theDrummer-- All good things must come to an end...so why be good? |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Is laziness THAT bad? Just asking....  I usually both bow and say Good Fight (yes, it's a bind) but I don't have any Good luck bind or something like that. If the duel is better than the average (or if I get beaten more thorough than normal) I comment it. And of course if it's Luke I use the appropiate swearing words. Btw, I'm 14, so thank you for thinking so highly of the average 14 year old. I don't get pissed off if people don't bow, only if they don't have enough respect to let those people bowing finish it before attacking. That's the least you can do, imho. |
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Avean - Student 
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hmm ... i don`t see it in that way, that someone is worthy of my "GF" ..but having "NICE FIGHT, GL NEXT TIME" every god damn time in all sorts of colors , really annoys me. That is a sign of total and utter lazyness . _______________ Do you believe I need eyes to see or ears to hear? |
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Arcuss - Student 
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Good Fight!! too lazy to type anything else(unless it's Luke Skywalker then its "Damn" or " Damn Man,I quit" age:28 :arcuss: This comment was edited by Arcuss on May 01 2003 03:59am. |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student 
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yeah I dont say it after a bad fight, but I usually duel the guys more than once, and if its a n00b that wants to improve I say gf to encourage him, be it bound or not, let alone the quality of the fight. if its a dumbass, of course I dont say good fight. I once thought like you, that its just blunt and stupid, but I changed my mind. I dont happen to experience fights that are not worth my "gf" commentary, and thus it simply gets straining to type that two letters everytime. _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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Buzz - Student 
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He doesn't have a problem with people saying "Good Fight" He has a problem with people binding it to a key, saying it all the time and thus trivializing the meaning of the words. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Jedi Deity - Ex-Student 
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i don't bind Good Fight to a key i write it everytime, but saying Good Fight shows appriciation and respect and in my opinion is an encouragement that you did well. I know you may think i'm a bit stupid in the servers but i don't like to be ordinary i like for myself to build a character for myself so i try to comment on each fight not just have keys binded so i can be boring and unoriginal makes me feel better i guess. _______________ if you're in a fair fight, you didn't plan it properly |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student 
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I wave to greet, and I bow before a duel. I also hav e bound "Good Fight !" to a key. sue me no seriously: 98% of all players bow and say "gf" or something similiar after the duel, and I would consider it offensive if I wouldnt reply, or them. but its just a habit, to hit that key when I or the other dies. but for the really good fights there is always a handwritten comment. So, I get ur point, but u are always free to leave the server, so I dont quite get why you are that upset. _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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Cyb - Student 
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well... opinions are different about this, I myself think the rpg elements like bowing adds fun to the game and is good, ofcourse I doesnt matter how you bow, thats totally stupid. Allso saying good fight is allways nice in my opinion but I see no problem about binding it: it's easier then typing it over and over. And yeah if you think a fight was VERY good then you just type that. You didnt really mention the point about hitting ppl saber down but I can say that aswell: not hitting someone when he has saber down is one of the things I like so much about JK2, you dont get hit the whole time so I hope you ppl stay doing that _______________ ~~ Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none! ~~ |
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Iceman - away- - Student |
Well some people I've dueled with just nod but I think that showes as much hounour as a bow. |
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Aeth S'kray - Retired 
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Bowing comes from JK1? Cool thing, didn't know that one. Actually the first time I've bowed was during a LAN party with some of my friends. We've just checked out the coolness of walking down the staires in the carbon chamber and somehow got the idea of activating the saber not before we saw each other... then we got the idea to look down to do a bow. Strange, guess it was invented like a million times somewhere else Well, I usually nod aswell. Dont like the crouch, not as cool as a nod (imo). About "good fight", yeah it is kinda silly of saying it after every fight, but it somehow got a rule. Me myself find it unkind if someone does not answer my good fight. YES, i know it was originally said only by the one who won, YES I know you only said it after a, well, *good* fight. But guys, things sometimes change. if you REALLY want to express that the fight was extraordinary, add a "nice one", "woa that was cool" or whatever. not answering to a gf is in my eyes impolite. On the other hand, if someone bound shit like this -=]::°G-O-O-D:F-I-G-H-T°::[=- i agree with beeing quiet _______________ Aeth S'kray *June 2002 +September 2003 |
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Revenger - Ex-Student |
yuup bow man let's bow! |
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Buzz - Student 
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Well if someone starts crying to me about nodding my head and not bowing I'm going to go off on them. Because they're just being stupid. I wouldn't even nod if people wouldn't go off about me not having honor or their stupid idea of what it should be. As far as I'm concerned you are showing the person respect by challenging to a duel instead of just immediately attacking. You show them respect by letting them do whatever silly ritual they want to do before the duel starts. They want to run all the way across the floor and bow that's fine with me. I could easily follow them and as they bow slice them up. I don't have GF bound to to any key. I actually type it each and every time I say it. And I don't say it each duel though. I usually say it here at the academy though because most of the duels are decent and the people aren't pricks about things. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Jake Kainite - Student 
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Man I sooooo know what you mean. Was on the TND fight club server, been going there for months. Duel starts, I nod my head, the admin procedes to punish me......They have a go at me about it being a server rule, and that I have no honour or respect. I then spoke to the guy I was dueling and the admin who was wactching "Look man I respect you and all, but I'm not gonna lower my self to the floor like you're some kind of king, I only properly kneel if its a great master who has me deepest and upmost respect, I don;t even know you!!" In the end I did do their silly bow and beat most of them anyway  , but the point is most of the players which force you to bow weren't around when the game first came out, most of them don't even know where the bow originated. Alot of the JKII players today (including academy members) think it started with JKII, you couldn't be more wrong. Its a JK1 thing thats eben carried over by the old hands at the game, people like myself who carried this code on to JKII. I now I've got people whining at me, for something I've had a part in creating ???bowing is not essential, why am I even typing this ? Its not like its an official rule anywhere, same as typekilling and unarmed attacking, its all legal, unless server rules state otherwise. But having rules specifically on how you're sposed to show honour that just makes no sense, as at the end people are bowing to get on with the fight and own the person whose harrasing them, let alone showing any honour in the bow. Its still a game remember. About the binds, I hate that too. To begin with people said good fight, you think "awww thats nice, he's respecting it wheather he won or lost" But saying 'GF' or 'GG' after every single duel or game is just stupid. If you sincerly mean it, then yeah thats great, but use the effort to type it. Don't just say it cos 'thats the thing to do'. Most people say GF after a duel now, not becuase it was actually a good fight, but becasue they've got into a hbbit of saying it, which takes out all meaning of the words and just ends up as 2 letters appearing on your screen. Binding these phrases to a key just mocks their value even more. _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side 
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