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Apr 28 2003 09:25pm

Ulic Belouve
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Ulic Belouve
Hey,

Just want to say that the Academy has a Folding@home team, so you can go to http://folding.stanford.edu/ and get the client. The team number for the JA is 31419.

MEGA EDIT:
There is now a nifty one-click that I've tweaked to work for our team. It's a quicker installer, and in addition, the greatest benefit of the One-Click is that it sets FAH up as a service so when ever the computer is powered up, it's folding.

Get it here:
http://webpages.charter.net/ulicbelouve/JAclient.zip

This one-click installer is the simplest way to install FAH on any Windows 2000 or XP Machine. Includes -advmethods flag.

Installation Instructions:

1. Download the file listed above
2. Edit the client.cfg file with NOTEPAD to your username and bigpackets answer ("yes" or "no" - default is "no";).
3. Run the *.exe file.
4. The One-click will then create a directory (C:\Program Files\FAH), download the FAH console client, creates and installs FAH as a service in the registry, starts the FAH Service, and cleans up the extra download files after the install is completed.

Thanks to those that are cranking out the work thus far, and I woud like to see more people use it.

Any questions, you can check the site, it defines things more than I can. But I'll try to answer whatever.

From the F@H website:

What does Folding@Home do? Folding@Home is a distributed computing project which studies protein folding, misfolding, aggregation, and related diseases. We use novel computational methods and large scale distributed computing, to simulate timescales thousands to millions of times longer than previously achieved. This has allowed us to simulate folding for the first time, and to now direct our approach to examine folding related disease.

From DJ Sith:
"The short story is Stanford is using the spare cpu cycles of various voulnteers to run protien folding simulations. It does this because it requires a LOT of computer horsepower to something like this, and Stanford's system's can't calculate that kind of stuff fast enough, so it sends data via the Internet to your computer.. you calculate stuff.. and then you send it back to standford. It's all done annonymously, and only when you're not using your computer (so you can leave it up and not se your FPS shoot down)."

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This post was edited by Ulic Belouve on Jan 09 2006 04:06am.

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Jan 08 2006 05:30pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

I think this deserves a bump ;)
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May 04 2004 05:10am

Coogee
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 Coogee

Bump :)
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Apr 30 2004 05:12pm

Battlin' Billy
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 Battlin' Billy

I think later on I might get my "spare" box working on this!

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Apr 30 2004 05:07pm

Orion
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 Orion

ah, got my linux box runing it. the executable starts on system boot :)
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Apr 30 2004 02:42am

Ulic Belouve
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 Ulic Belouve

I know there are some additional command-line switches that can be added to the shortcut to make things run smoother. I will look those up and post them.

But yeah, keep going, by all means.
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Apr 26 2004 05:46am

Lackeh- Retired
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 Lackeh- Retired

I'll have to grab this when I get home in the morning.
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Apr 25 2004 03:00pm

o2b
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 o2b

yea, this is a really good thing peeps :)

Another one I'm involved in and have been for the last two years or so is United Devices. It does much the same thing, and for the last year, it was doing research on smallpox which has just been completed I think.

So get behind it guys :)


Apr 25 2004 02:54pm

Aron
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 Aron

I want to restart this thing. A lot of people seem to have never stopped, but I have, and a lot of others too.

Get it guys!

This comment was edited by Aron on Apr 25 2004 02:59pm.

Jun 30 2003 05:31am

SilkMonkey
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Yeah, I have it on my new computer. I've done like 20 some projects. I completely forgot that its there. The cool thing is, everything else gets process priority so it doesnt slow anything down at all. :D
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Jun 24 2003 09:59pm

Aron
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 Aron

I dont notice any difference ;) Ive got 5 casefans, but my case is pretty sound proof :)

Jun 24 2003 03:51pm

Fizz of Belouve
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 Fizz of Belouve

ah. another grid computing thingy.... me doesnt like them.

cant stand it when my CPU is at constant 100% - all the fans are way too loud then - anyway.... hope u have fun there :D
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Jun 24 2003 03:40pm

Aron
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 Aron

Read above ;)

Folding@Home is a program which takes advantage of IDLE cpu power. This means, it will not slow your system down.

With your idle cpu processing power, it calculates the folding of proteins. (Read more about that on the official site)

These results are used in making cures agains disseases, stuff like that.
You can also make "teams" which are listed on the site.

The academy team number is 31419. ( http://folding.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/teampage?q=31419 )

Installing the program is less that 5 minutes work. Then, just add your name, and the team you would like be with (31419), and it will run on the background, without you even noticing it's there.



This comment was edited by Aron on Jun 24 2003 03:41pm.

Jun 24 2003 03:38pm

doobie
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 doobie

"The short story is Stanford is using the spare cpu cycles of various voulnteers to run protien folding simulations. It does this because it requires a LOT of computer horsepower to something like this, and Stanford's system's can't calculate that kind of stuff fast enough, so it sends data via the Internet to your computer.. you calculate stuff.. and then you send it back to standford. It's all done annonymously, and only when you're not using your computer (so you can leave it up and not se your FPS shoot down)."

I was doing it too Aron, and i'll start again as soon as I get back to school and my real computer.
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Jun 24 2003 02:52pm

Fizz of Belouve
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 Fizz of Belouve

err... I think I have asked this already, anyway.... what exatcly is this folding@home stuff ?
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Jun 24 2003 02:34pm

Aron
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 Aron

* bump *

Come on people, i seem to be the only one doing this at the moment...

May 12 2003 01:27am

Ulic Belouve
 - Student
 Ulic Belouve

That's great Jake, glad to hear you're helpin out, even if not on our team.

One thing though, to clarufy: it has nothing to do with how long you are online. There is liitle need for you to really BE online with thisd, except to get/recieve. One of my better computers is connected in dial-up, so it merely connects once it has one done, and sends the completed, gets a new one.

But yeah, even if you are not on the JA team, still help out. Form your own team if you really want to, or join up with other people.
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May 11 2003 11:30pm

Jake Kainite
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 Jake Kainite

I started doing this ages ago, my brother set it up. I'd love to join the academy team, but apparently the amount I have my computer online is making my brother and I 183'd in our region :D or something lol.
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May 11 2003 11:04pm

Ulic Belouve
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 Ulic Belouve

An additional note that I would make, and a suggestion to really any F@H user:

I would probably make SOME form of buffer, like limiting it to 95% overall. Why? Well, then if you are monitoring your CPU, and notice it is at 100%, then it is not F@H, you have something jammed up.

I put F@H on another computer of mine, and it wasn't getting any work done, but my CPU was at 100%. That was because something else was jammed up, so F@H was using 0%.

So if you keep some buffer, it may help you with problems, and also let you know if something gets stuck, when you see it at 100% instead of what you set it at.
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May 11 2003 07:57pm

Fonz
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 Fonz

HEy guys this is really worthwhile - get involved!:)
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May 11 2003 07:35pm

Ulic Belouve
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 Ulic Belouve

For the screensaver mode, you simply right-click on the F@H thing, and select "Full Screen"

You get to sorta see the molecule folding (not the fastest thing) but it serves as a screensaver, and has the prorgress and details on the left side of screen.

You can set the refresh rate higher to make it smoother as well. This can be set under Options.
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May 11 2003 07:10pm

Icco
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 Icco

ok ool, i m donating my cycles but im keeping a 10% buffer. i was looking at the site and was wondering what the screen saver made was?
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May 11 2003 06:59pm

Ulic Belouve
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 Ulic Belouve

This is the same as my comments under the news post:

Well, I started the team, so I looked into a lot more items.

There are no security vulnerabilities, in reality, as it only connects to GET the work unit, and to SUBMIT the work unit. Once you HAVE the unit that you are working on, you work on it offline, so there are no vulnerabilities through the internet, no more than what you might already be vulnerable to.

IN terms of the CPU always being at 100%, that's what the program is SUPPOSED to do. It works out like this:
(What you are doing)+(What F@H is doing)=100%

If you are using 95% of your CPU, then F@H decides to only use 5%, and it doesn't disturb what you are doing. If, however, you are only using 20% of your CPU, then F@H can use 80%, making the grand total....100%

In addition, if you don't like your CPU being at 100% all the time, you can set a limit on the total CPU used.

I have mine set at 95%, so that no matter what, I have a 5% buffer there. This does help, as if I open a program suddenly, I have a bit easier time getting my CPU back from F@H. Although it is really simple. It runs idly, and it really doesn't affect any programs.

I have played Splinter Cell, surfed the web, used Kazaa, Winamp, played JKII, and checked e-mail, all in one short perios of time, with absolutely no effect on anything. I had F@H on the entire time.

So go get it. I don't care if you set the ceiling at 50% instead of 100%, or like me, 95%. It's just a way of showing that we are concerned with helping out disease research, and using our CPUs for something other than playing video games.

"If a man has two coats, he should give one to his neighbor who has none."

So, if you have extra CPU cycles, give them to research. You'll save some lives, maybe even your own, down the road.
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May 11 2003 06:56pm

Ulic Belouve
 - Student
 Ulic Belouve

With the recent news post, I'm going to bring this forum thread up to the forefront.

I think discussion and questions should go here, since the forum is the best place to discuss things in a forum-like setting.
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May 01 2003 07:14pm

Sniya
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 Sniya

sory this ownt work for me
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Apr 30 2003 06:11am

Hector Thrawn
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 Hector Thrawn

come on people start using this, we need more than 20 team members if were gonna break the top 100!

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