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Sared - Retired  |
Found this floating around on the SWG Beta site, enjoy.  I swear PETA gets funnier and funnier every time one of them opens their mouths. quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EDINBURGH, Scotland -- Anglers and animal rights activists were further apart than ever on Wednesday after scientists said they had proved for the first time that fish feel pain. The scientific study on rainbow trout by scientists in Scotland found evidence, researchers said, that fish have feelings, including stress and pain. But the main angling group in Britain cast doubt on the research, saying that the findings contradicted previous studies. The Royal Society published on Wednesday the latest findings of experiments on bees stinging trout lips, which caused some of the fish to display a "rocking" motion, according to the Press Association. The study at Edinburgh University and the Roslin Institute in the Scottish capital concludes that fish have nervous system receptors, or "polymodal nociceptors," in their heads that respond to damaging stimuli. The ones in trout were the first to be found in fish and have similar properties to those found in amphibians, birds and mammals including humans, PA said. Dr. Lynne Sneddon, who led the study, told PA: "Our research demonstrates nociception and suggests that noxious stimulation in the rainbow trout has adverse behavioral and physiological effects. This fulfils the criteria for animal pain." Animal rights organization PETA, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, which is opposed to all angling, welcomed the study but said fish should not suffer to prove something obvious. Dawn Carr, director of PETA (Europe), told PA: "It is unfortunate that these animals were made to suffer for this study, because we've been saying for years that of course fish can suffer and feel pain, just as all animals do. "However we hope that when people see these results, they will think twice about going angling. Marine biologists and common sense tell us that if you trick a small animal into impaling his or herself in the mouth, that animal is suffering. "It's shocking that people will still go fishing for fun. We argue that for every cruel thing people do, there is a compassionate alternative." The National Angling Alliance (NAA), which represents one million anglers in the UK, described the conclusions as "surprising." A spokesman said: "These findings are in direct contrast to the recent work of Professor James D. Rose of the University of Wyoming, who stated in the Reviews of Fisheries Science that fish do not possess the necessary and specific regions of the brain -- the neocortex -- to enable them to feel pain or, indeed, fear." Dr. Bruno Broughton, a fish biologist and scientific adviser to the NAA, added: "I doubt that it will come as much of a shock to anglers to learn that fish have sensory cells around their mouths. Nor is it a surprise that, when their lips are injected with poisons, fish respond and behave abnormally. "However, it is an entirely different matter to draw conclusions about the ability of fish to feel pain, a psychological experience for which they -- literally -- do not have the brains." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
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Muad'dib - Student 
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Everything PETA says should be followed up with a "Wokka Wokka Wokka". Just to get the full effect. _______________ "It's because I love you. No. It's because I love you" Oh, Anakin, you're eloquence is second to none. I AM THE OPIATE OF THE MASSES! |
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Sared - Retired 
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Woah, old-skool. _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
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JavaGuy - Student 
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PETA would be funny if they weren't so violent. Hell, al-Queda would be hilarious if they just used pamphlets and publicity stunts instead of actual violence. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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CuZzA - Student 
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kewl, thread 2000!  _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world |
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Buzz - Student 
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First have Peta give an example of Ethical treatment for animals. If that includes not killing animals we raise for food then that just proves some more idiocy. Crazy Forum Ulic remember. I'm only kidding around with that argument. I find PETA incredibly stupid. They're not Vegetarians. Vegetarians don't try and force their habits and beliefs on other people like PETA wants to do. I'm not really interested in listening to a group of people that think they know how to live my life better than I do. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Ulic Belouve - Student 
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Ah the "If they could....they would" argument. That has so many flaws and fallacies that it's not even funny...wait, it is... I can do a lot of things, but I don't. The point is, a cow CAN'T eat you. So it's not an issue. That's like saying that if I "could" get my hands on a nuclear arsenal, I "would" use it. So I need to be locked up because I am a threat. The thing is, I CAN'T get my hands on such an arsenal, and even if I could, no one could PROVE that I would use it. So locking me up just on theory is ridiculous. This argument just blows my mind, sorry. If cows could drive, they would always break the speed limit. So we should not allow cows to have licenses. See how dumb this is? _______________ Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student 
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haha Buzz, got u there. you wouldnt mind to gve a definition of "ethics"  _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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Buzz - Student 
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The people in PETA need to realize something. If a cow could eat you, it would. It wouldn't care. Same for every single other animal in the world. If they could eat you they would. They don't know what ethics is. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Sniya - Student 
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look its not funny,its just wierd what peta says _______________ The real question is not whether machines think but whether men do. Bertrand Russell http://www.thejediacademy.net/forums_detail_page.php?f_id=970 |
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