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Sen. Orrin Hatch wants your computer to die!
Jun 19 2003 05:18pm

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Apparently, Orrin Hatch thinks it would be a good idea to destroy the computers of illegal filesharers. Being one myself, I know they will never shut it all down, but I don't like the sound of the gov't putting in viruses to deliberately fry my computer. Although this is most likely just something he said to get our attention, it would pose as a serious threat to all that share illegal files.

The virus would work like a 3 strikes your out, you can read more about it here http://www.macobserver.com/columns/thebackpage/2003/20030618.shtml

What do you guys think?
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Jun 24 2003 03:03am

ioshee
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 ioshee

Yeah but it's against the law to speed but cops have to do it if they want to catch a fleeing speeder. Think about it.

NippleZ

P.S. I hate it when people say, “think about it” at the end of a statement. It’s soooo arrogant.
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Jun 24 2003 02:26am

KickerNeo
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 KickerNeo

because in this case its breaking laws in the process...the anti-hacking laws. so basically they are trying to enforce a law by breaking the law, thats not right.

NIPPLES!!!!
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Jun 23 2003 06:53pm

ioshee
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 ioshee

Isn't it legal for cops to stop a car that is breaking traffic laws, even if it means damaging the car in the process?

What is the difference between that and this?
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Jun 23 2003 06:22pm

Doppelgänger
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 Doppelgänger

What the hell is wrong with people now a days? It is wrong to take someones work with out paying the money they have asked. Stealing is wrong! You wonder why you have it so bad in real life and why you don't have any money well it's because you steal! The sooner you wake up and realize that what goes around comes around the sooner you can have all the things you want. Provided you pay for them. WAKE UP!:mad:
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Jun 23 2003 05:21pm

Battlin' Billy
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 Battlin' Billy

Maybe if the music companies wouldn't release albums full of garbage and only one or two decent songs this wouldn't be a problem.
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Nicely said Buzz. Unfortunately, music isn't about the music anymore. It's how you look on MTV or VH1. They had a big hand in destroying popular music as far as I'm concerned!

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Jun 20 2003 10:41pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

See Javaguy now that's legitimate. Its another source with quotes from the discussion. My problem is that this person who linked an AP article from Yahoo had no mention of Orrin Hatch in it. So his report cannot be legitimate because he's citing a source that doesn't talk about. Its like writing a paper on Shakespeare and citing a Math book.
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Jun 20 2003 09:50pm

Sauron-the-rasta-mon
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 Sauron-the-rasta-mon

Orrin Hatchs granddaughter is in my class and i got a crush on her
lol when i saw this post i was like HOLY SH*T! CYD'S GRANDDAD WANTS MY PC TO DIE?!?!?!?!!?!?!?! ohhh so thats why cyd doesnt have kazaa weird thing huh?
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This comment was edited by Sauron-the-rasta-mon on Jun 21 2003 12:25am.

Jun 20 2003 06:00pm

Battlin' Billy
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 Battlin' Billy

My computer wants Sen. Orrin Hatch to die!!!

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Jun 20 2003 06:00am

JavaGuy
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 JavaGuy

Here you go, Buzz:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,89719,00.html

From the article:

During a discussion on methods to frustrate computer users who illegally exchange music and movie files over the Internet, Hatch asked technology executives about ways to damage computers involved in such file trading. Legal experts have said any such attack would violate federal anti-hacking laws.

"No one is interested in destroying anyone's computer," replied Randy Saaf of MediaDefender Inc., a secretive Los Angeles company that builds technology to disrupt music downloads. One technique deliberately downloads pirated material very slowly so other users can't.

"I'm interested," Hatch interrupted. He said damaging someone's computer "may be the only way you can teach somebody about copyrights."

The senator, a composer who earned $18,000 last year in song writing royalties, acknowledged Congress would have to enact an exemption for copyright owners from liability for damaging computers. He endorsed technology that would twice warn a computer user about illegal online behavior, "then destroy their computer."


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Jun 20 2003 04:58am

Buzz
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 Buzz

I don't know if anyone went to this guy's supposed AP source, but it mentions no where of wanting to destroy the computers of music pirates. The article from Yahoo News talks about the courts ordering verizon and earthlink to give the names of 5 people out for pirating music. Gotta question how valid this really is.
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Jun 19 2003 11:43pm

JavaGuy
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 JavaGuy

http://www.debunkers.org/ubb/Forum10/HTML/001160.html />

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Jun 19 2003 11:02pm

Broda Dagre
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 Broda Dagre

Hear hear, Buzz!
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Jun 19 2003 10:49pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

Yeah I doubt this would float. Putting out an "official" virus if you would. Think about it. Hackers having a nice gift wrapped virus there for them to take and use wherever they want. Maybe if the music companies wouldn't release albums full of garbage and only one or two decent songs this wouldn't be a problem.
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When you are going through Hell, keep going.
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Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it.


Jun 19 2003 09:39pm

Broda Dagre
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 Broda Dagre

They'd never be able to make it float and I second DJ's final thot: the gov't can't keep up with the rest of society because it is not the gov't who controls and drives the internet anymore.
It had it's roots in the military but they lost control a long time ago: centuries ago, technology speaking.
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Jun 19 2003 05:43pm

DJ Sith
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 DJ Sith

This is another example of government not understanding technology. If you're of legal US age, you should definately call or fax or snail mail (no emailing) your local senators and tell him or her that your vote will depend on issues like this.

I highly doubt that the govt will be able to wipe out a guys computer like that without the online community either

a) flipping out madly and putting in new govt or
b) figuring out how it works and developing a countermeasure. The govt is usually three steps behind. :)
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