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Sep 11 2003 07:15am

Kueller
 - Student
Kueller
Okay, I wanted to discuss something I have been feeling for 4 days now. I have it more, but never so long. I'll try to explain (hard in english):
I have the feeling I'm not here anymore, the world goes around and at the same time my life. Like a eternal repetition, sure some things happen that do not follow the schedule, but it feels like I don't have grip on it anymore. As if the real me isn't here anymore, not on the world, somewhere far away. I search very actively for things to really break this, but for now, I haven't found something that worked. It's really scaring me, not that I'm gonna do strange things to myself, no fear for that, but it's no way to live. I was wondering if ppl have experienced this sort of things. BTW feel free to use this thread fro your own RL probs too, I noticed before that JA members can really help eachother out. On to school now, so have a nice eventfull day guys.
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Sep 13 2003 03:54am

crazy_hacker
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 crazy_hacker

hmmm, take a sport huh? i stopped skimboarding about last summer, and now almost all my free time is spent on the computer. maybe i should start skimboadring again, even tho i probably cant even do the basic stuff anymore:P
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Sep 12 2003 07:38am

Kueller
 - Student
 Kueller

I have talked to a very special person yesterday and had a very good conversation. I was looking for that for some time now. While we where exchanging ideas and feelings I felt the "poison" go out of my body. While hearing the music I love I got better. I'm going to school in some minutes, running a very special game. I'm very active in unpaid work, and school-related students groups to have fun. I run a Dungeons and Dragons game on friday-afternoon. I'm gonna have fun there then, and I think I will feel some better. You guys showed me that I should do something that really forces me to do something, and I have taken rigorous lessons for guitar. It sounds a bit starnge I know. But instrument lessons are really straining and good for your mental state. To go on even if you're in pain because of all the exercise, to go on even if you don't notice you're getting better. I already do a contact sport, Aikido. But I have discovered last night that I have to set free my spirit and share it with other while working on it myself on the same time. I feel myself getting well again, and my cold is starting to go over. Thanks for the great input guys. BTW, all you ppl who have some problems like this, one word.... MEDITATION. For me it solves 90% of all my problems. Since you tackle your problems all by yourself and you're forced to solve them by yourself it works so well. FOr the other things you need the help of other ppl. Thanks again and may light shine on your paths!
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Sep 12 2003 04:17am

Ruuk Haviser
 - Retired
 Ruuk Haviser

Hector actually has a good point. Exercise causes your brain to produce endorphins...chemicals that make you feel good. Like...natural prozac, if you will.

If possible, I'd suggest going to a professional counselor. These guys here are great, but there may very well be some deep issues that are troubling you...issues that you can't find out in the ways you've been looking at them so far. I've gone to counseling, and it really helped. And it was only for two sessions, actually. So it doesn't have to be for years and years. Just sit down with someone who knows how to do this stuff, and you may find that it "unlocks" some sort of way of looking at things that just wasn't there before.

But try exercising first. It's cheap, and it'll probably make you feel a little better. Oh! Also: watch what you are eating. Keep a log for a week or so to see what you are feeding yourself. Like a car, you gotta put in gas (premium) to get the best results. Sitting at a computer eating cheezy puffs all day is just gonna cause your engine to putter and stall. Your brain is your engine...brain not working well? Maybe it's because your inner circuits are gummed up? Start eating better food! (I know that I have these cycles where I start feeling horrible and don't know why...and then realize a week and a half later that it's because my diet has taken a turn for the worse. I feel better almost immediately once I start eating good again.)

Ok, enough rambling. You wanna talk personally, gisjedi@hotmail.com.

Good luck, bro. Just know that you aren't the only one that has felt or is currently feeling this way. Let's try and get you fixed up.:D

-rh
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Sep 12 2003 02:20am

Mune
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 Mune

Wow. I actually feel about the same way, Kueller; it just doesn't seem as bad in my life. I'd like to get a girl. It's not that I'm shy, it's just that I really don't know what to talk about with them :/ . As for sports... hmmm... maybe I should start playing some hockey with my friend more often...;) Hmm... goals... even more stuff to think about on the midnight marching band bus ride Sunday morning... So fun:)
Interesting thread.:)
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This comment was edited by Mune on Sep 12 2003 02:22am.

Sep 12 2003 01:54am

Hector Thrawn
 - Ex-Student
 Hector Thrawn

i may have had the same problem you do, but i cant say that the cause or cure is the same... well, not really a cure becasue it keeps coming back every now and then, but here is what i found works.

1: get into something that requires regular vigorous exercise, then work yourself as hard as you can. its surprising how good it feels to know there is something in you, even if its napalm in your lungs and batteryu acid in your vains (a very accurate metaphore if you've ever tried running 10 miles when you really out of shape). the best way to do this is to join a good contact sport and take it seriously. (kind of like what bubu said).

2: get a goal, not a straight "A"s goal or a "eat fifty bages of popcorn goal" but a goal that takes a lot of work (sorry, i wont tell you what i am trying to do). the best way to do this is to decide what type of person you respect and value the most, then try to become that type of person.

on the other hand this may not help at all, but if your still fishing for solutions give it a shot.:)

Sep 12 2003 12:18am

MINDofSIN
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 MINDofSIN

Try to keep busy, then you just won't have to deal with it.

Like temporary emotional suicide...
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Sep 11 2003 09:30pm

Jello`
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 Jello`

Yeah I feel like that too sometimes. I have no control over my life and the same things happens as each day goes by. I care too much about what other people think (I'm way different online then I am in RL, I'm actually pretty shy IRL). I'm pretty quiet in school and kind of a loner at times, but my friends are pretty great. My parents just bug me and whenever they try to start conversation I just kinda shrug them off and tell them to stfu (not really, but you get the point), I need to work on that. School has really been 0wning me lately, and I know that -I-need to be alot more active on the servers, I havent played jk2 in over an hour for about a week or so I think. Also some of you may know Melissa dumped me on monday, it was the saddest day of my life, but now were friends, and whats really weird is that I've felt really happy lately and I was only depressed Monday night. Well, enough blabbin for now, if you wish to know more about my mundane RL, uh... post on my profile :P
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Sep 11 2003 08:46pm

Fizz of Belouve
 - Student
 Fizz of Belouve

well, Master, and brother, thats the hard approach, I've been doing some sort of outside activivy, but all in reasonable frames, like hiking, or taking the frisbee to the park and play some, things like that, easy things u can enjoy.

well, as for the girl part: u'll learn to chose wisely before u completely let go of yourself and fall in love, thats the hard part.

but as I said earlier today: life is hard, but unfair :)

so always keep a big smile in reserve
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Sep 11 2003 07:30pm

Kueller
 - Student
 Kueller

Owww, I liek that part of missing them and then going away even more. Good advice, thx!
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Sep 11 2003 07:20pm

Bubu
 - Hubbub
 Bubu

hehe. you misunderstood me.

i said "get a girl", not fall in love :P


hehe yeah but i know what you mean, and in that case, stay as far away from them as possible! when you start missing them, get further away! only when you are absolutely sure you are ready to come back, you can do so :)
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Sep 11 2003 07:09pm

Kueller
 - Student
 Kueller

Ehm, the get a girl option doesn't seem like a wise dicision at this time. Because all the problems I had where caused by girls. For some reason they totally destroy me. I think I have to take a rest a bit from falling in love, becaus eI constantly do that. I need to take care of myself first a bit, chill out with friends and try out girls when I'm on less dangerous ground again. So at this point, I kinda gave up girls since it's not gonna wotrk out naytime soon I think.
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Sep 11 2003 07:01pm

Bubu
 - Hubbub
 Bubu

Kueller welcome to the club. I also started feeling this way about 4 months ago. It is starting to go away now. And you know why? Well, frankly I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's because I took up like 2 other sports besides what I used to do. Like Sared said, you have to get banged up to realize that you are alive. And most importantly, get a girl! lol :D
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Sep 11 2003 06:48pm

Kueller
 - Student
 Kueller

Ouch, that would hurt. Maybe I'll start stretch exercises. :P
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Sep 11 2003 05:55pm

Sared
 - Retired
 Sared

Ya want an easy tip on how to feel alive? :D Do something totally nuts, like an extreme sport, or something dangerous that could get you beat up, or worse. I felt like this while I was in high school quite a bit, solution? Picked up aggressive skating. Go rock climbing or something. Anything. Trust me, unless you have a chemical disorder in your body (which is not improbable), then getting out and logging into RealLife (TM) and realizing your mortality (i.e. getting banged up so you know your still alive) is sure to help a LOT! :D


P.S. And WHATEVER you do! Do NOT get depressed about this! You do that and I will personally shove an avacaWdo up yours! :D
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Sep 11 2003 05:01pm

Kueller
 - Student
 Kueller

Well, it's not a depression. I know that, because I had a depression of 10 years. Because I was bulied for 10 years by kids at school and every day been beaten up. But that's not the prob, I've learned from that. I'm feeling a little more alive right now because I kicked myself against my butt and said that I was gonna live and have great time doing it. It works a bit, and every hour I say myself I musn't complain about it and just go on with living. Well, the sky is clearing a bit, I think it'll be gone tomorrow evening when I go out. Thx for the input you guys. And others, you can still use this thread for RL troubles or things like this. Share a bit RL experience.
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Sep 11 2003 04:09pm

Ale'Velkyrii
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 Ale'Velkyrii

Yep...I've felt like that for the past year. I just see things happening and I act like I'm a normal person, but I really don't feel like it. However, after a few months of talking to Tiffany, things have been changing. :) I think it's a matter of several things, actually. Maybe you aren't enjoying yourself enough to feel alive. Don't worry if people think you're a freak. :D Bob your head to Metallica and don't worry if people stare at you strangely. LOL. I do that at times. :D Maybe you're just depressed. People say it's a medical problem, but I seriously don't think so. I believe it's just a subconcious problem. If you don't enjoy yourself and don't express yourself the way you want to, you'll be depressed. I've been depressed for YEARS and I didn't realize it until recently. :D Once I realized it, I felt better! Well...I realized it AFTER I felt better, but that's not the point. I know it's hard, but cheer up. Blast your ears with music, get some sun, don't hold your feelings in, and things should be fine, methinks. :D It seems to me that you already do some of those things, but I just thought I'd mention it. :D

I hope you wake up soon. The dream life is not something you can enjoy.

Now I have something else to mention. I finally told my parents about Tiffany yesterday and...wow... heh...they're a little angry. BUT! They're only angry that I never told them before. Other than that, they're quite happy. :D It all felt like a dream because that was the first time I ever told them something that personal and...I felt a little exposed. Like I was standing in my underwear. I've always been so closed-minded about everything, but yesterday, my mind came wide open. Things are going to be great from now on. They're already making plans to take me out there. :D

I hope things turn out better for you. :)
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Sep 11 2003 01:57pm

_cmad_
 - Ex-Student
 _cmad_

well, school has started and 9th grade really has loads of homework...

dunno if i'm gonna be as active, but i hope ima be active...

i don't say i'm quiting, but i'm saying i'll be less active...

if things get worse i might even have to quit and then come again this summer...

but, i'm still a JAS... i'll try to avoid RL shit :cool:
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Sep 11 2003 01:48pm

DJ Sith
 - Jedi Council
 DJ Sith

Get something to stimulate your brain activity (some thing constructive :P)! Start playing basketball! Build model planes! etc etc. :)
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This comment was edited by DJ Sith on Sep 11 2003 01:49pm.

Sep 11 2003 11:58am

Kueller
 - Student
 Kueller

Just not to confuse you guys. This is what I'm feeling in RL and outside RL. Just plain dead actually :P
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Sep 11 2003 10:28am

Smilykrazy
 - Retired
 Smilykrazy

Hiya!! Yeah ive experienced that as well. I sometimes feel as though i am not a part of this world at all. I feel like well....its kinda hard to explain. But then usually something bad happens to me and i snap back into reality. Im glad its not just me!! :D Give it time and you will be fine. :D
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Sep 11 2003 09:59am

Fizz of Belouve
 - Student
 Fizz of Belouve

cut it down with the crack, m8 :D

nah, j/k.
I know what u mean, and I experienced that, too. not here, but in a RealLife (TM) (yes I've actually been out there) setting. Sadly enough, the only sulition for me was to leave that setting. :(

So Im afraid I cant give u any mad tips or suggestions here.
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