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Sep 24 2003 12:28am

Rainer
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This has been bothering me since I first saw the original trilogy. How do you turn on or off a lightsaber? Do you hold down the button? This would explain why sabers that are knocked out of peoples hands turn off, but then you have a problem. If you have to always hold down the button then how do you throw it? It would be very difficult to flip your saber considering your thumb would have to be at the same spot. If its just a click on, click off kind of thing, then why don't they stay on when the jedi gets the saber knocked out of his or her hand?
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Oct 15 2003 12:34pm

aph3x
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 aph3x

WEELLL according to my official Star Wars Technical Journal.....each saber was differeent. the green bladed one lukem ade had like a little switch plate type deal, where his fathers had a lever. i belive obi wan's had a button, as well as darth vader's. i could go look this up if you guys really intrested. the bottom line is that there were physically switches on them. there were probably also locking mechanisms on there to keep them on, so you could hold the saber how you wanted during a fight, and not have to worry about keeping the button pushed.

Oct 14 2003 01:16pm

Havvk
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 Havvk

No idea, let the force do its stuff
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Oct 07 2003 03:34am

Vaughn
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 Vaughn

if anybody has read the book "Lightsabers" you know that theres a switch of somesort that keeps the saber on, even when it leaves the body. I guess my opinion is, that when the jedi, or anyone, is holding the lightsaber, a 'well built' lightsaber can 'sence' the persons intention. I guess thats kinda like saying, they use the force. But, basically, if the saber is knocked out of their hand, the lightsaber 'sences' that they need it off, so it turns off. While they are weilding it, it stays on, because thats their intention. I guess it doesnt really work, but use your imagination... George did
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Oct 07 2003 01:16am

kool_aide
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 kool_aide

maybe the button thing needs to be held down right, but what if when they force throw they use the force to hold the button down:P. :omaybe we will never know
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Oct 06 2003 02:41am

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

well with the jedi lightsaber i knoew off there are nobs you can turn to make it stronger/hotter and one to make it longer/shorter
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Oct 04 2003 09:24am

Xipkell
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BURN is correct. I don't remember which books but I do know that this the correct explanation according to the EU. The second one anyway about them being held in the on position to fight and the locked position to throw. Now, in the NJO Corran Horn has a light saber that with a twist of the hilt doubles the blade length. He defeats a certain antagonist with this method. As for the internal switch that requires Force sensitivity, there are certain Dark Jedi in one book who use these. It is a basic slide on and off inside the hilt. :alliance:

Oct 03 2003 05:09pm

genes!s
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 genes!s

I am going for click on click off (the saber always fall on the ground with the button at the lowest point :P)
Further: what annoys me mostly:
Obi-Wan's action at episode 1, versus Maul. He jump, pulls saber, but none of his finger even come close to the red on/off button! And still the saber ignites.
It annoys me big-time. :P

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Sep 30 2003 08:21pm

Axion
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 Axion

lol it can be simple or just mind bending =X
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Sep 30 2003 08:13pm

Cloaked Thunder
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 Cloaked Thunder

good point buzz :)
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Sep 28 2003 11:09pm

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

Click on click off :)
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Sep 27 2003 05:35pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

The cruise control was just an explanation of how the sabers are locked on, and how easily the lock can be shut off so you control when it comes off. If you don't have it locked or you aren't using the force to keep it on then the saber will shut off when dropped. You really wouldn't need that reasoning if it was just the original trilogy, but with all the twirling of sabers going on in the prequels just holding down a button doesn't cut it.
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Sep 27 2003 04:46pm

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

cruise control.....thats just imagination-id really think they do what move is needed for the moment.
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Sep 27 2003 04:33am

Crunchy
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 Crunchy

I like Buzz's idea about "cruise control" for light sabres. It makes a whole lot of sense. I've read in books about "dead mans switches" that turn of the sabre when dropped. But cruise control makes the most sense.
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Sep 25 2003 11:22pm

Burn
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 Burn

From my reading in books and such from lucas films and authenticated documents, i have come to find out the "on" button can be mutiple things.
1. a button to hold down.
2. a switch to hold in the "on" position.
3. a switch that when turned on it stays on.
and sometimes a combonation of 2 and 3, being that they use number 3 when fighting, and then use number 2 when throwing (then using the force)
or using 2 when fighting and 3 when throwing. (just watch how u throw.)
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Sep 25 2003 07:49pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

Cloaked you also need to look at how they wield sabers too. You're theory works well alone for the original trilogy, where they are keeping their hands on the lightsaber in a pretty standard fashion. But look at the prequels how they twirl the saber around and everything. Their hands don't hold the saber in a very set way 100% of the time. I'd look at it almost like a car. You can hold down the gas pedal to keep your speed constant or you can turn on cruise control. If you have your foot on the pedal and turn off cruise control you will still be maintaining your speed. Its almost second nature to some people flipping it on and off. The same would be true for a jedi. Lock the saber on twirl around once your done twirling around remove the lock and continue fighting.
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Sep 25 2003 06:06pm

Cloaked Thunder
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 Cloaked Thunder

For some reason I believe there are loopholds in the jedi system that George hasn't/didn't think out starting out in 1978. There are some things he can't go back and fix so there's prolly some errors in the consistency of all this. Just my $.02. I believe more the thumb activation theory and they use the force to throw it and keep it activcated. Even though the jedi would have to train 1000 times more just to learn to keep his freakin finger on the activation button. Mo0o0ah
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Sep 25 2003 05:48pm

D@RtHM@UL
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 D@RtHM@UL

There are lots of ways for a saber to activate.
The throwing part is easy they use the Force to keep it activated while airborn. When knocked down the saber goes off cause the Jedi/Dark Jedi/Sith doesnt use Force too keep it activated.

Most are just buttons they press, but there are special ones. There were even sabers that could only be used by ppl that were Force sensitive meaning if u didnt have any Force you couldnt activate it, but those sabers are rare in SW.

Sep 25 2003 02:58pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

Explain how Han turns on the lightsaber then. Or even how Luke does it in ANH when he really has no skill in the Force. There are scenes that people have frozen in the original where you can see Luke holding the slide bar and shutting it off by letting it go.
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Sep 25 2003 09:18am

Rei D'Kana
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So you suggest that when a jedi wields his saber, he constantly presses a button? Dont you think that fights super crap :P. What I heard was that a lightsaber activates cuz the force flows through a Jedi's body. Which is part of the lightsaber causing it to activate. When someone lets go, the force slowly leaves the saber and the saber deactivates :)

Sep 25 2003 12:17am

Buzz
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 Buzz

But Ashley the problem is that when lightsaber's are dropped they shut off. Other times like when Vader throws his it shuts off. This means there would have to be some sort of dead man switch on it but in such a way it doesn't need to be activated.
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Sep 24 2003 11:28pm

Rei D'Kana
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A button, you press it, it goes on, you press it again, it goes off, simple

Sep 24 2003 11:03pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

Yeah Jake but you need to consider the Lightsabers constructed in the original trilogy and there was only ONE and that was Luke's. The other lightsabers are already constructed. Obi-Wan's is one of them and I'm going to venture a guess that it will be the saber we see in Ep. 3. Now the one Luke gets in ANH is the really important one since Obi Wan says that it is Anakin's. This should really be the saber we see Anakin using in Ep 3. Now you can say "well maybe obi-wan wasn't telling the truth" then that would basically cheapen the act of obi wan giving Luke the saber and make it really hollow. There is also a similarity between Vader's saber and the one Luke receives. Luke constructed his saber based off of notes in obi wan's home and when you look at Luke's and Obi Wan's sabers there is a similarity in design. I really wish there would be a decent explanation for what seems like a regression from buttons to slide bars.
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This comment was edited by Buzz on Sep 24 2003 11:04pm.

Sep 24 2003 09:49pm

Jake Kainite
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About them looking differently buzz, it makes sense when you think about it. In the prequels is when the Jedi Order was established, lightsabers were constructed in workshops, under tuition with plans and blueprints etc. The 'classic' sabers where built in less controlled environments, where the specific parts weren't so easily available and so you had to take what you could get :D Thats the way I see it anyway....
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Sep 24 2003 04:50pm

Zhadow
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 Zhadow

maybe its magic

..yer that'll explain it..
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Sep 24 2003 02:55am

Buzz
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 Buzz

There are many variants to lightsaber hilts. In the original trilogies it was a type of slide handle you used to turn it on located on your thumb. When you removed your thumb the lightsaber shut off. There is also mention of having another switch to lock the slide into place to keep it on.

Now in the prequels, lightsabers are all button activated, something I find rather dumb. Why make sabers that are older look more advanced? My guess is the same principle applies though. You keep the button pressed to keep the saber activated. You know you don't want the saber to stay on after you drop it, wouldn't that be nice to have your saber drop and you lose a body part because it didn't shut off.
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