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Huxley - Retired  |
... Here's some deep-thoughts by Jack Huxley...
What would make the game more realistic to play? Realistic as in 'like the movies' ?? Any possible improvements that everyone could contribute to? Maybe a USB-Light saber, so we can stand up and duel? 
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Aeth S'kray - Retired 
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well, i played on the ghoul2 servers too. i was rather unexperienced, but i remeber it was pretty lame. sorry, but thats my opinion  you could not get a hit it impossible, because it was 100% blockable. you could even block a red swing if the guys stood onto your feets. so everyone used the sepcials. and i'm talking of specials only! lunge lunge, yDFA, rDFA, lunge lunge... I think JK2-fighting won allot when we disabled ghoul2. it added much more ways to fight. and last not least, tehre are few public servers with ghoul2.
and i like the idea of having the dual saber/double bladed saber mod on one of the servers (sorry forgot the name  ). but please disable the dual double bladed saber (4 blades!). it adds a bit tactic, if you want to fight iwth ONE doouble blade or TWO single blades 
and it would be GREAT to have a JK1-like jump! it would take a second or two to get the highest jump and would prevent doing combos in mid-air. also it would stop jumping around and backflipping all the time. well, everybody would roll instead... you would have to make it more difficult to. last thing: add animated clothes. yeah, that would suit me. robes that wave in the wind... faces hidden in shadows... parts that get cut off. wee
also it would be nice to get a free saber. not 8 different swings to chhose, but directly control the blade. for example hit left mouse button to control the blade aggesively, means moving mouse sidewards would perform a swing. and right mouse button hold down and move would do a defensive move, like moving mouse to the left, would arrange your saber in a horizontal block position. damn that post got pretty long again... P.S. (i cant stop) throwing things would be coool. as i said you should be able to interact with the surroundings... and a better control of forces. not a set forces you can perform... but somehow "use" the force. something like the JK1 seeing (you could leave your body and fly around through walls in the level). then maybe twist around the neck of an enemy to perform a grip, or somethig like that. or much more simple: make objects "gripable". that means you can "grip" a chair and throw it at enemys. _______________ Aeth S'kray *June 2002 +September 2003 |
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Silencio - Student 
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yeah, ghoul2 is nice. didn't DJ's server have that in the early days? _______________ Second-in-command of the mighty FiZZsters |
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Grani Salos - Ex-Student 
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We should include try the mod that allows for two sabers or dual bladed sabers on one of the servers, so we can teach these skills to the students. You will encounter dual sabers and people with dual bladed sabers all the time. It is good to be prepared. |
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Huxley - Retired 
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Well.... they have a multiplayer saber-blocking system.
Its called 'ghoul2' I talked about it BREIFLY in my movement class the other night. Jedi Phr00t was quite good at using this system I hear. I trained in it for a while, but I have been unable to get support from anyone to attempt to bring it back to the academy, atleast on one of the servers
Ghoul2 is a much more intricate sabering system. You can actually BLOCK saber swings COMPLETELY with it. Rather than swing and hope it blocks the saber in the current default system. Ghoul2 really makes duels much longer, because it is possible to run up to a person and be inches away and block your butt off and not have the saber touch you at all. The animations actually show this happening too.... EXCEPT... The animations dont change when using red stance. (I.E: if you saber swing a person through the mid section, they can block it, but the saber still goes through them.) So... that's your introduction to the Ghoul2 Saber system. Its built in to every jk2 game, its just an option you can turn on on the servers. Keep bugging me when you see me about it, if you are interested. If enough people wanna play with it, I could probably find another server to put it on to
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Eternal_Silence - Ex-Student 
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In SP in a fight whenever your saber comes into contact with your enemies it taps it lightly in a block, you can then follow through with a series of moves. In MP sparks fly and your saber follows through. If they were to incorporate the saber effects from a block then it would make it more like fencing where your moves can chain even when your being blocked. Also the stances make it tricky to change from one to the other as soon as you want to - if a guy blocks your heavy you might want to change quickly to a medium before he can get a hit off. |
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Darth Revan - Ex-Student 
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To make the game more realistic you should be able to kill all enemys with the light saber in one hit not just some. You should also be able to use the force alot longer. _______________ formally known as jedi master, vanished and returned as the new sith lord |
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Silencio - Student 
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for one thing, jumping should be set back to jk1 style, where you kinda "charged" your jump, and then did it. both kyle and luke do it in the sp cutscenes. of course, this would make precise jumps helluva lot harder to do  , but they'd look better =P _______________ Second-in-command of the mighty FiZZsters |
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Charon - Ex-Student 
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The saber defense in MP could stand to be a little more consistant. Obviously a perfectly effective defense would just encourage turtling, but somewhere between what we have now, and the kind of insane deflection in SP would be good. Something to bring blocking back into dueling, rather than knowing the defense bites and dodging absolutely everything.
I do agree that grabbing ledges would be a nice feature, as well as some unarmed techniques, but well, I can't expect everything to fight the way I would. ;> Oh, and kyle could not look like a feeb. ;> _______________ spirit's searing pain battlefield of broken glass fallen speak to me --Charon |
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Ulic Qel-Dromo - Ex-Student |
But the two saber thing is kind of wierd. The left hand saber doesn't move at all, only blocks something if they both come into contact. I like promod but it has a few things I think it needs. |
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Shadow Warrior - Student 
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aeth, I know what you're talking about, with the timesale, but I meant something for a single person. If you've played max payne you'll know what I'm talking about. There, you have a button to switch to the so called bullet time and everything slows down ONLY FOR YOU. That's why it's impossible, coz it can't slow down only for you. _______________ - Shadow Warrior |
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Kalheka - Student 
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model dismemberment in mp, also the ability to grab onto a ledge and hang on / climb up would be good also. The ability to discard weapons would also be big in my book. _______________ Death is only the beginning. |
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DJ Sith - Jedi Council 
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If I remember right there exists a wireless mouse thats shaped like a remote control. You move the cursor by pointing the remote to different partsof the screen. Maybe that kind of thing could be adapted to do saber swings.
Oh yeah a teamplay MP mod thats goal oriented like WolfMP or SOF2 Infiltration would be hella cool. _______________ My car is made of Nerf. |
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Sniya - Student 
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oh and you should be able to pick things up to throw a t people in duels.(vader does it all the time in the movies _______________ The real question is not whether machines think but whether men do. Bertrand Russell http://www.thejediacademy.net/forums_detail_page.php?f_id=970 |
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Preadator Kallata'n - Student 
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actually, i have a system which would allow for slow motion sequences but its immensly complicated...
(Edit: Edit: ok ok - i'll stop editing this 1 now...) _______________ ««¤¤¤{{PREÅÐÅT¤R ka¦¦ata'n}}¤¤¤»» Founder of RSPCT (The Royal Society of the Prevention of Cruelty to Toasters) This comment was edited by Preadator Kallata'n on Dec 18 2002 12:56pm. |
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Aeth S'kray - Retired
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shadow, slomotion IS possible. it happens all time in SP ;-). you just have to start a server with chetas enabled (load a devmap) and type timescale 0.5. timescale 1 is default, you can play around with it. but it's slows everything down, not only some special scenes...
you can do that in SP as well, bzw. pretty funny
and i'd LOVE to have more melee attacks. like kicking and punshing. not that "erhem" kick you can do now, i'm talking of REAl kicks. without jumping. they do it in the duel of the fates all time! _______________ Aeth S'kray *June 2002 +September 2003 |
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Sniya - Student 
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i think there should be something to tell you when theres a bad guy round the corner like in the movies "i fell a disturbence in the force".That would add a whole new demention to the game for mp and sp.Oh and be able to twirl your blades before you strike they do that in the movies.
BTW i disagree about better graphics a top notch grapics game will never have as many online players than a above average on like at the minute. But of course graphics shoud cange with changes in computers if thats wot you ment BTW I LOVE these foroms _______________ The real question is not whether machines think but whether men do. Bertrand Russell http://www.thejediacademy.net/forums_detail_page.php?f_id=970 |
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Jedi Al Khalaas - Student 
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Having NPC's and thelike in the game , and if you act dark side (like kill when saber down etc) you are prevented from utilising light side powers |
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Shadow Warrior - Student
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also, some sort of slow motion like the matrix or max payne would be GREAT, but thats impossible (right?) coz everyone hasw to slow down or no one has to slow down :'( _______________ - Shadow Warrior |
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Shadow Warrior - Student 
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i agree with arth about the attribute thingies and saber defence, but i kinda miss the classic thing tehre is in some games: the part that when you jump towards a ledge, but dont get on top of it, you catch on to it and go up _______________ - Shadow Warrior |
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Rampage - Student 
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A green(or purple/white/sum other color) saber stance..... some kind of defence key sounds cool, it's a great idea |
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Aeth S'kray - Retired
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harder to control force! you should somehow have to concentrate for using for example lighting. but make it more effecient then. more "fighting" with forces.
and one-hit-kills with a saber. one good hit should kill. better saber defence. you somehow should be able to control your defence. maybe have a "defence" key on your right mouse button? defence combos! wh00t! less speed for running. we're no plastic balls, we're honourable jedi ---> role play better graphic (always helps) neutral guys running around. animals in map, NPC where you can buy weapons instead of collecting them. RPG-like attributes. you jump much ---> you jump higher. but that would cause everyone to jump around (reminds me to morrowind). problem, eh? _______________ Aeth S'kray *June 2002 +September 2003 |
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Tiamat- - Student 
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if u are looking for more realism in JkII, be sure to check promod 3.0. We already tested it a bit with Black Eagle, and saber fight is as realistic as it should be ;] _______________ Some people look at earth as a place of injustice, some people look at earth as a prosperous and beautiful place. I on the other hand choose not to look, for I despise it all far too much. My wish is to put a stop to all earthly life and one day I will. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but one day the earth will burn and all living flesh will perish in the luscious flames of Armageddon. |
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Lord Exar Kun - Student 
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here's my 2nd point of view:
the question shouldnt be WHAT would make it more realistic, but SHOULD it be more realistic. I'd say no. 1st of all coz the adiction should become greater than ever. 2nd coz that would change the magic of the game too much. JKII is unique as it is right now, changing it would make the game loose its unique thing. _______________ -Retired april the 19th 2004 |
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Meph - Ex-Student 
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Antan ---> In MP, you CAN chop of body parts(heads, arms, legs etc etc) i think the command was cg_dismember if i remember correctly. Mine is set to 30 and body parts fly
Roleplaying idea sounds great =) |
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CoRRUPTioN - Ex-Student 
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heh it first i thought it was a sensible post, like new ideas for sounds n graphics but once i saw the usb lightsaber it gave it away. Anyways it would have to be bluetooth or fireire as the sabers dont need them stupid power packs so they shouldnt need any wires. If they do bring them out i want pink fluffy dice on mine. Im not weired _______________ - CoRRUPTioN |
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