(How) did Anakin bring the Force into balance? | |
Bail Hope of Belouve - Student |
There has been a lot of discussion about this on the web and fansites, and stuff, so here: How did you think Anakin brought the Force into balance? Some people say it was because he killed the last two Sith alive. Others say it was because he slaughtered the Jedi. I say it was this: He didn't only kill every Jedi, he also killed every Sith. The universe would have to start all over again. No Jedi... No Sith... This would of course have a tremendous effect on the Jedi after this. In the Old Republic, the Jedi were arrogant, because they thought they thought they were invincible. Now they know they can very easy be destroyed So that's why you have better Jedi, that are sure of themselves, but aren't overconfident. And now an even bigger headbreaker: Was Anakin supposed to go to the Dark Side? Was it meant to happen, or was it one of the possibilities that could happen? I think he was supposed to go to the Dark Side, the Force had that in mind for him. Because, the way I look at it, the Jedi where arrogant and needed to be destroyed. They where to sure of themselves, according to Yoda. And they should be, because for over a thousand years, there were no enemies that could stand against a Jedi, so the Jedi became (in the eyes of the normal man) invincible. That's why when kids are trained to be a Jedi, they expect to be so powerful... Which brings arrogance, right? So the Jedi that weren't arrogant (like Yoda, Echuu-Shen John) escape the slaughter miraculously . But I'm still guessing why Obi-Wan was allowed to be alive. Was it because he had something to do in his life? Or maybe he had to set right a fault he once made? And if you think he wasn't arrogant, then look at this: in Ep1 he said: "I am ready to face the trials". Arrogant, right? In Ep1 he thought he was ready to take on a Padawan of his own. And he thought he could instruct him just as wel as master Yoda, very arrogant, right? Anyway, post your comments on both these subjects And feel free to give as lot of critiscism as you want _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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(How) Did Anakin bring the Force into Balance?
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Jippie Phoenix - Student |
so u luke brought balance,what? _______________ |
Seth C. Belouve - Student |
*drunkly stumbles around* I'll...*hick up* I'll tell you baouuuut anakins mothha *hick up* she...she's quite a woooooman... lol No seriously Anakin only brought balance by having Luke who truely brought balance to the force I did this whole math equation about it in another forum but basically at the end of the movies Lukes the only one left...thats about as balanced as it gets ppl. mtfbwy _______________ Look unto me for I possess the blue flag!! It is more beautiful then I ever imagined! You will now worship me as if I were a god! *smack, dies* I regret nothing, I lived as few men dared dream!! Red Guy from Red Vs. Blue Series |
Bail Hope of Belouve - Student |
no, it was because he left his mother _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Dan - Student |
sweetness FiZZ that's just about the single best opinion i have ever heard on a topic such as this. well i think he brought balance... ...when he won the podrace -Aiden |
Fizz of Belouve - Student |
well, technically, if he hadnt been a Sith, someone else would have taken his spot, and Luke & Leia prolly would have been killed on the spot. Well, on the other hand, the series would be kinda short if the little kid Anakin had killed all Siths in EP1... hehe, well its a movie plot, so dont think too much about it _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
Bail Hope of Belouve - Student |
well, if you'd think logically... it's in the second opinion, jedi AND sith... ok, since I had one last poll option which wasn't used, I changed it with 'Killing Palpatine' _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Jippie Phoenix - Student |
yeah where is it bail?u got ani's cute there but u ain't that wots going on? _______________ |
Plo Koon - Student |
wheres the killing palpatine option...... _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
Bail Hope of Belouve - Student |
hehe, I didn't know that actually _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Jippie Phoenix - Student |
woah bail did u know the actress that plays anakins mum also plays mary in a jesus christ movie(christian bale as jesus). I thought it was funny to see her the mother of another one _______________ |
Vaughn - Student |
oh. i didnt remember that _______________ When you become an actor, you become the person, and you dont act anymore. You just are. - Tyler HP, Taught by Mr G Simpson |
Bail Hope of Belouve - Student |
I agree Your theory includes two of our theories, and yours seems logical, actually. But in EpIV I think(might be EpVI), Obi-Wan himself says: "I thought I could instruct him just as well as Master Yoda" _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Vaughn - Student |
well, I havent read the other arguments, so im sorry, but... I belive Ani was destined for the dark side. Why? Didn't Obi say that there is no such thing as luck? which means, that if you did something, you were supposed to do it? How else could the jedi tell the future? Fate. So in that sence, Ani was meant to go to the dark side. Did he bring balance to the force? yes and no. How did he do it? By being evil. what does balance mean? does it mean that one side is more powerful than the other? no. It means both are equal. For thousands of years, the Dark Side had been in hiding. was it powerful? no. Was light side powerful? yes. Ani came along. He turned that around, he destroyed most, if not all, of the jedi. killing off the light, and being very strong, he brought the dark side up to power. even more powerful than the light side. that put dark in power for a few years. time was balancing out. by killing off palpatine and dying himself as a light jedi, he put light back up, and Luke brought a new Academy (or is starting one). So he brought balance to the force for a little bit, meaning, he brought the darkside up to power and held off onthe light side, balancing out their rule of the galaxy/universe. he didn't balance it, because the dark side was in power for a very short time a few decades, while the light side was in power for a few centuries. But, thats just what i think. someone also said, that he made them closer in power, therefore making it so that a jedi coudl fall, then come back again. But.... I think the jedi mis-read the prophecy. About obi being arrogant, i think he was ready, qui-gon thought he was ready, and that stroke of 'arrogance' was just so that he would push the council to making him take the trials so that qui-gon could take anikin as a padawan. If you remember, after Maul, obi got anakin, so unless he took the trials strait after the movie ended,he never took them. he didnt think he could teach ani better than yoda, he thought he could teach him as well as qui-gon. But, as ani turned dark, he felt as if he failed, and wished qui-gon could have taught ani. i think :S _______________ When you become an actor, you become the person, and you dont act anymore. You just are. - Tyler HP, Taught by Mr G Simpson |
Jippie Phoenix - Student |
yeah I thimk got turned to the dark side in the books and came back from it although im not sure _______________ |
Darth Bamse - Student |
Quote: Ok you seem to to think that anakin brought balance to the force by killing all sith and jedi so the cycle starts over. But he doesnt kill all jedi as luke is left standing. Maybe for the cycle to start over then 1 must be alive be it sith or jedi u get me Didn't someone say Luke was partly darkside? Then he would be the perfect item for a restart of the cycle. Anakin turned back to the light side, so he might be some sort of fusion between the two too. _______________ Why use only one saber, when you can use two, and double the mayhem? |
Bail Hope of Belouve - Student |
yeah, he wrote a nice story _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Jippie Phoenix - Student |
I calling me g.lucus Im alot younger then that guy. although repect to him _______________ |
Bail Hope of Belouve - Student |
that he killed both Jedi and Sith is a possibility yes... I suppose George Lucas isn't in here under a fake name? _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Jippie Phoenix - Student |
Ok you seem to to think that anakin brought balance to the force by killing all sith and jedi so the cycle starts over. But he doesnt kill all jedi as luke is left standing. Maybe for the cycle to start over then 1 must be alive be it sith or jedi u get me _______________ |
Bail Hope of Belouve - Student |
/me hits you away from my leg hehe don't worry bout it... So, what's your theory on this subject? _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Jippie Phoenix - Student |
Its my mind it started to wonder. Your right its not that difficult to understand, but I was pulling your leg _______________ |
Bail Hope of Belouve - Student |
its not that hard a theory _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Jippie Phoenix - Student |
my brains melted again _______________ |
Bail Hope of Belouve - Student |
well, I don't think he destroyed the Dark Side, since that would make all the other stories after Anakin's death quite a mistake Since they ARE however filled with going from Dark to Light, (Luke, Rosh, ...) I stick with my original theory, that there was a gap, and the gap meant the following: Before Anakin: Light to Dark -> Possible Dark to Light -> Impossible and my theory is that Anakin closed the gap, meaning the following (Anakin went from Dark back to Light) Light to Dark -> Possible Dark to Light -> Possible But then, this is just my opinion. _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Tamal - Student |
I haven't read much of this thread yet but I have always believed that Anakin brought balance by destroying the Sith. In a similar forum on starwars.com I believe someone had even quoted GL saying this as well. In a nutshell the Darkside is what brought the force out of balance and when that was destroyed balance was restored. Of course this is all taken from canon SW and not EU. I am actually interested in starting to read some EU series can anyone point me in a good direction?? Well that's my take please feel free to comment and criticize as needed MTFBY, -Tamal _______________ Tamal |
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