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Dec 27 2025 08:25pm

Ecomancer
 - ex-Student
Ecomancer
SO today I'm bying a new hardrive (C: free space <500Mb!) for my computer and I wanted to ask you: Do you know any good cloning software?

And don't give me search KaZaa for Ghost because I prefer freeware or if there is a trial or shareware versions out there that I can use.

Thank you.

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Feb 03 2003 05:55pm

Vaughn
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 Vaughn

ok, Note: ME workes fine. people say it doesnt, IT DOES!!! ME let me do whatever i wanted to do, easily. 2000 didnt. XP came with too many problems (no drivers, etc). ME is a good one, and my bro uses ME's bootdisk to use fdisk all the time.
the second thing... i forget... :(
oh yes. keep your first hdd, as primary, use this as secondary. simple?
Note: fat 32 is good from 500 mb to 32 gb. Use NTFS if its larger (either NTFS or NTSF)
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Feb 03 2003 12:19pm

Ecomancer
 - Ex-Student
 Ecomancer

I've already downloaded fips, but I didn't want to mess with partition since everything works fine now maybe I'll try it later.

BTW:
I'll never start using WinXP, never, never I tell you hahahaaa <-manic laughter ;).IMO XP is just too damn expensive.


Feb 02 2003 10:42pm

Icco
 - Student
 Icco

ok first of all, did u get the partion working? second of all, get something newer than 98(dont get me too unstable) that way fdisk works properly. and if you still cant get ur partioning 2 wor k search google for a program called fipps.
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Feb 02 2003 04:50pm

Ecomancer
 - Ex-Student
 Ecomancer


You can't believe how hard it was to create partition (one big one for me please) a 80Gb drive. *shakes head in disbelief and caressing the still-sore-from-pounding-the-screen-with fists-knuckles*

Dunno about XP but the fdisk in Win98 is hopeless. M$ software claims that my 80gb drive is 8Gb large. The fdisk on the 98 doesn't recognise hardrives over 64Gb correctly but not even after downloading the supposedly new version of fdisk does not recognise it correctly. Trial version of Partion magic would not start stating a error: "can't find drive letters" or something stupid like that.

Finally found an programm called Partition manager. (at this point the 80Gb is still on as slave duh)
It recognises the drive correctly and I though I was home free. I made a new 75Gb(not all 80gb) FAT32 partition with it and restarted the computer. But suprinsingly in My Computer it says I have two partions of the size of 75Gb and only Drive E: has an FAT32 and drive d: is 75gb unformatted???. Naturally this doesn't work right.

After nerve recking try and fail experiments I found an combo that does work. First I booted up the computer with my special boot disk and I did, with Fdisk, an 2Gb Fat partition (Maybe I should have made it smaller, dunno). In Windows and with partition mananger a created a second approx. 76Gb partition (I figured thats enough) and deleted the first 2Gb (made by fdisk) parition and I set the 76gb partition active.

By using that great software xxcopy (no complaints about that one) I copied all the files form my old drive to the new one.

Still one problem. I have the system files on the new drive but it still isn't bootable (dunno why? something to do with the MainBootRrecord (MBR) I guess). Allthough copying the system files (you know msdos.sys etc.) and doing the fdisk /mbr -command should have done it, but it didn't. So I just tried, as a last resort I guess, sys c: (my old tiny drive) d: (my new wonderfull huge drive) and yes I finally got it booting.

Summary:
55Gb Free space
sore knuckles
and a special hate-hate-relationship with Win98





Jan 29 2003 08:35pm

Icco
 - Student
 Icco

also make sure u go back and delete files you dont need ater the transfer.
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/Icco


Jan 29 2003 08:35pm

Icco
 - Student
 Icco

if you put xp on this hard drive use their copy utility its very good but slow. one word of warning though... dont transfer settings it never works....
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"this is Icco. Icco is old. Icco is lost. Icco is cool, but Icco doesn't know what the meaning of 'macrophageal sex'." - Vaughn
/Icco


Jan 28 2003 01:34pm

Fizz of Belouve
 - Student
 Fizz of Belouve

it is no problem to copy all ur content with the usual windows copy. It is very slow, btw.

anyway, don't u guys have an IDE 'slot' free ?

fiZZ is using a SCSI system with 5 HDs that accumulated over the years... ;)
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Jan 28 2003 01:17pm

Kalheka
 - Student
 Kalheka

When I bought my new hard drive a little ways back, I got a free ghosting utility with it.


I will say this, I have never seen, nor heard of a ghosting utility that worked properly, there is always something that doesn't come out right. I believe it's mainly because ghosting relies on the computer being ghosted to, being totally identical to the one being ghosted from. Even a small variance like a different hard drive messes things up.

My advice: install the new hard drive as the primary, keep the original as a secondary, and copy personal stuff that way. When you know you've got everything you want off the secondary, free up the space from programs and such and use it for storage.
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Jan 28 2003 09:08am

Ecomancer
 - Ex-Student
 Ecomancer

Just came home with a 80Gb hard drive.

DJ, A friend of mine said that if you just try to copy with the windows file copying programs you might get some interesting results e.g. strange file/folder names and that kind of thing..

I looked at xxcopy.com it seems like I'll have to go with that one. It claims to keep the real long file names.

Thanks Aso. I'll report back if it works.

Jan 28 2003 09:05am

Bubu
 - Hubbub
 Bubu

i am exactly what DJ said so i wouldn't know.. but aron seems like he can help ya there! ;)
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Jan 28 2003 06:30am

Fizz of Belouve
 - Student
 Fizz of Belouve

I can only recommend linux' dd for that.
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Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04

"Renfield, you idiot!"


Jan 28 2003 06:19am

Aron
 - Retired
 Aron

well i like ghost honestly, but i also have PowerQuest Driveimage, which does fine too.
Check http://www.powerquest.com/downloads/eval-soho.cfm for info about it.

I searched for some alternatives, but didn find much really...:

http://www.xxcopy.com/
http://www.google.com/search?hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=harddisk+clone&lr=

I hope you find it somewhat usefull..

This comment was edited by Aron on Jan 28 2003 06:20am.

Jan 28 2003 03:41am

DJ Sith
 - Jedi Council
 DJ Sith

I'm more of an old fashioned "backup, format, reinstall, pound the wall when you realize you fergot to back up somehting important" kinda guy. :)

Can't you add your hard drive to your system as a slave on the IDE port and just copy stuff over to it?
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