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Apr 08 2004 01:49am

Dicemaster
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New fun topic to discuss. Driving and driving laws.

*Background info*
my states driving laws
at age 14 you can get a learners permit. With a learners permit you have to have a legal guardian who is over the age of 21 in the car with you at anytime you drive.
After 6months of this you can get a restricted permit this restricted permit allows you to drive by yourself anytime of the day, between 6AM and 8PM. After 8PM or before 6AM you must have a legal guardian with you. (the theory is no nighttime driving)
At age 16 you can get a operators permit which allows you to drive by yourself whenever you want.


I believe this system is ok for my state, because we have lots of rural farmers, who have there kids driving illegally on the farm as early as 8 or 9. However, in larger states I Don't know if this would work. What are your views?

-Dice



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Apr 10 2004 06:52am

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Heh, i got my liscence for $8. and it allows me to drive regular pick-up trucks (as in ford f-150's tipe thing) SUV's and cars. I can't drive semi's or anything with airbrakes. I can pull trailors with a normal pick-up. um...no motorcycle, (seperte test and another 8-16 dollar liscence for that) I believe i can drive small trucks to, like uhaul trucks, the small sizes. So really i can do almost anything. The same liscence goes for manual cars (stick-shift) and automatic... my old 89 dodge dakota was a manual. I like manuals. I now have a 95 dodge stratus
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Apr 10 2004 04:46am

Fizz of Belouve
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well, over here, In Europe, you gotta be 18 to legit to drive. simple as that.
And, in Austria, you got psychological, medical and technical checkups (mandatory) for the first 2 years you got your license. if you fail any of these, its gone. and you gotta redo it.

Might sound ridiculous to you US guys, but a driving license costs about 1500 Euros for a car only. this involves lots of theory lessons, practical lessons and the actual exams.

well, the fact that you can drink aged 16, is a problem there.
for the first two years of driving, you aint allowed to drink, 0.0000% is the limit.
after those 2 years, its 0.05%. which is frigging low.

anyway, the trend over here is to let younger ppl drive under special precautions, and with a HP limit on their cars, but this wont happen within the next few years.

I really do not see a reason to let 14yo kids drive around with 200HP+ cars.
the death toll is high here. and thats not good.
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Apr 10 2004 02:47am

Battlin' Billy
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Here on Long Island (or Lawn Giland:P ), that wouldn't work. There's just WAY too much traffic that something bad would happen regularly. In NY State, at 16 you can get your learners permit, where you need to have someone 21 or older riding with you. At 17, you can get a "limited" license or whatever they call it that lets you drive ONLY to and from work or school, as long as it's between I think 8:30am and 8PM. Also at 17, if you take driver's ed. or some kind of approved driving course, you can get your full license, or you can wait 'til you're 18.
Another reason driving that young wouldn't work well here is that although they say you should drive defensively, if you do that here, you're gonna get yourself into an accident. You have to drive a combination of defensive and "offensive" driving.
I'm not even gonna bring up driving in NY City. I'll put it this way: if I need to go to NY City, I'll take the train in and walk or take a cab to where ever I need to go. The rumors of crazy taxi drivers are ALL true!

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Apr 09 2004 10:57pm

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yeah ulic, but you gotta realize we have kids that drink illegally...A LOT! Most of my school drinks to the point of drunkness everyweekend. the punishment is not sever enough, so ppl still do it.
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Apr 08 2004 05:04pm

Halendor
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I totally agree with Ulic :)

Apr 08 2004 09:52am

Ulic |retired|
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 Ulic |retired|

I think it's probably ok for the states that law is implemented, especially combined with the high drinking age. In a highly populated country as the netherlands however, it wouldn't work. There's not much left other than roads to drive on :)
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Apr 08 2004 05:36am

JavaGuy
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Well if they're driving on public roads, not just roads that traverse private property, then it certainly "counts." They probably won't get caught, though.

If I owned a cow, and she got killed by someone's 12 year-old driving a car, I'd be mightily honked off about it.
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Apr 08 2004 05:26am

monkai
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I don't think farms and rural places don't really count cause there is NOT as much people there as there is in a urban place. And in a rural place there isn't much to run over except for cows and chickens :D

Apr 08 2004 03:17am

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this is true, but a lot of those farms are spread out, which involves driving on country backroads, which are not private property:) therefore they are illegally driving.
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This comment was edited by Dicemaster on Apr 08 2004 03:17am.

Apr 08 2004 02:53am

JavaGuy
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It is not illegal for kids to drive on the farm. A driver's license licenses one to drive on public property, e.g. streets and roads.

On your own property, not only can you legally drive without a license, you can drive drunk if you want. Civil and criminal liability laws still apply though, so if you hurt anyone or break anything, watch out.


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